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Jack	23-01-2004 20:54

FIRSTweb

Hey~

Alright all..

I doing a little poll here to find out if it would be worth my time to set up these services and to see how much they would be used.

These services could be used for anything FIRST related.

1)FTP/Web File sharing/storeing. This could be used for a number of things includeing: Sharing of Inventor Files, an offsite storage for 3ds Max animations, other file storage, etc.. The ammount of storage would be based on need and virtually (note the virtually) uncapped. ;) If only ftp access is granted, your files will only be accessable to you.

2)Website Hosting. This could be used to host FIRST web pages either for a team or a FIRST related project. Features include PHP Scripting, MySQL DB's, FTP/SSH access. Again, the bandwidth & storage would be granted on need, etc..

3)Almost anything else that requires a web server :p

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The web server that would be used is a dedicated server (used for the failing FSN) running Red Hat, and hosted by VO (The same host as CD)

I just want to see if people think they actually would use these services before i take the time to aquire domains, and spend any more time setting things up.

Thanks,

Jack

Petey

23-01-2004 21:45

Re: FIRSTweb

Great idea. I wouldn't use it, cause we set up our own server, but I'm sure it would be very much appreciated.

Inspiration Inc--particularly Leon Machado, dunno if you know him or not--might be interested, since they're in a continuous dialogue with my team about things like this.

I dunno. It's late and I'm tired. Thanks for offering to do something like this.

--Petey

deltacoder1020

24-01-2004 01:11

Re: FIRSTweb

note to Petey - this is not a good thing to have your team's page displaying:

Code:

Warning: main(../pm/inc.sfx.inc): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /web/www.theforceteam.com/web/pm_inc.php on line 26



Warning: main(): Failed opening '../pm/inc.sfx.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/local/share/pear') in/web/www.theforceteam.com/web/pm_inc.php on line 26

The information is set incorrectly in the following file: "pm_inc.php"

Please open "pm_inc.php" with a text editor and correct the path.

You'll find instructions located inside that file

iamnafets

24-01-2004 11:27

Re: FIRSTweb

What kind of speed could you have on this server/bandwidth limitations. Sounds expensive. But it'd be nice to have a place to put our small animations up for the others to see without limiting them to 40kbs down because we can only match it with 40kbs up.

briholton

24-01-2004 12:04

Re: FIRSTweb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Web site hosting would be useful to us as long as ASP is supported and related database access. Marvelous idea. Hope you get it going.

deltacoder1020

24-01-2004 13:37

Re: FIRSTweb

ick... ASP... :) j/k

PHP support would be nice too.

Brandon Martus

24-01-2004 14:09

Re: FIRSTweb

If its the server I think he's talking about .. it has mysql and php; I dont think it has asp or any other windows/IIS-based languages.

iamnafets

25-01-2004 00:48

Re: FIRSTweb

Down with ASP! Oh, and DeltaCoder, he did mention in his original post that PHP was on their, so uncross your fingers :). Oh, and can I get first dibs since I was one of the first to respond to your poll/post?

deltacoder1020

25-01-2004 17:27

Re: FIRSTweb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus

I dont think it has asp or any other windows/IIS-based languages.

heh... ASP is no longer only Windows - check out Sun's ONE ASP ;)

iamnafets

25-01-2004 23:09

Re: FIRSTweb

After Sun's clash with Microsoft over distributing their VM of Java with Windows, I wonder how long it will be before Microsoft goes after this in reply. Or maybe it's licensed? Or maybe Microsoft is too tied up with Mike Rowe Soft? I just asked a bunch of questions that have no business being here. Everyone give me negative feedback.

Jeremy_Mc

25-01-2004 23:20

Re: FIRSTweb

There's also Chili!ASP which is a commercial ASP package for Linux...

but back to the topic at hand.

This would be an awesome resource for teams without much of a tech budget. We have a really nice setup already, but if we didn't we would probably use it.

deltacoder1020

26-01-2004 00:20

Re: FIRSTweb

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnafets

After Sun's clash with Microsoft over distributing their VM of Java with Windows, I wonder how long it will be before Microsoft goes after this in reply.

the thing is, the suit from Sun was because of the monopolistic nature of distributing something with an OS - courts had already ruled on things like this. ASP is just a language - for instance, someone else could make an implementation of PHP, and as long as they didn't break any copyrights in terms of naming it, they're fine.

iamnafets

26-01-2004 16:53

Re: FIRSTweb

I think I know what you are saying, but PHP is a bad example. It's open source!

deltacoder1020

26-01-2004 17:33

Re: FIRSTweb

yes, but technically so is the ASP language - it's only the compiler/vm/interpreter that can be copyrighted - for instance, NSBasic is essentially VB, except it's designed for Palm platforms - the syntax is almost the same. languages aren't copyrighted, software/code is.

deltacoder1020

26-01-2004 17:35

Re: FIRSTweb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy_Mc

Chili!ASP is an older name of Sun's ONE ASP, which is an older name of their Java System Active Server Pages. don't we love name changes ;)

zeep25

26-01-2004 18:19

Re: FIRSTweb

well the price is wut really matters if u ask me ... hehehehe

the features come next ... my ideal webhost would include php/mysql/ftp/ssh/cgi ... and then the space ... 500-1000 megs is more than enough just for a robotix website .. and unmetered bandwidth ... not like im going to get a billion hits per second on the website ...

but my team is using www.globat.com as our website host... they are pretty cheap ... a fee of 90$/ year with a free domain ... including 2 gb bandwidth .. 200 email accts ... MS FrontPage 2002, Flash, MYSQL, PHP4, PERL5 and SSI Support ... unlimited mysql dbs ... im workin on the website right now but it seems to be a nice serivce no problems with it yet ;)

our team : www.gearbox369.org

EDIT : btw i am writing a guide to setup apache/mysql/php webserver on a local machine so if u want to test out ur website before u put it up or play around with stuff locally without havin to upload files everytime u make a change ... ill post it in our website soon :)

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