Maxi 40 Amp Fuse Panel
 

Our team did not receive the Maxi 40 Amp Fuse panel in our KOP -- we mistakenly got 2 of the low amp fuse panels. We contacted FIRST, but haven't yet received a response, and, as it is somewhat important to move forward, have purchased one elsewhere. (It is brass and very heavy :(.) Anyway, each fuse accept a different input power source, and we have to, therefore, split the power coming from the 6 AWG wire from the fuse breaker into 4 to power it. I just wanted to make sure all this is legal, i.e., using a different fuse panel than that provided in the kit (granted that none was provided in ours;)). I didn't see anything immediately applicable from a glance at the electronics/wiring section. Thank you.

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I believe that that would not be leagal. We are still waiting for our replacment Maxi 40amp Fuse Panel. I am hoping it will be in tommorrow since FIRST said all Critical parts should be delivered to us by the 2/4/04. Has any other team recieved thier replacement.

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I don't know if they would consider that something that's providing power to the robot other than something they've designated.

It's time for a FIRST Q&A post I guess! ;)

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If you really want to get the fuse holders you can buy them. They are not cheap, but they are not outrageous either($10 each).


SoundDomain.com sells them. Below is a link to the page to buy them.

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/STISFB1MAX

Hope this helps.

Joe J.

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You need to check the power distribution diagram again. The wiring to the 40 Amp breaker panel is #10. The #6 wire from the main disconnect branches down to #10 at the power distribution block.

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Yes, my mistake. I was typing too fast and thinking about other things ...


Yes, we *did* buy them. We got a one with 4 connections that looks similar to the one you posted. The question I have is only about the legality of using this, since it is not the same as that provided in the kit (though it pretty much is).

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I believe that you were supposed to get two Buss ATC fuse panels in your kit.

Are you absolutely sure that you didn't get one, because I was thinking that it's kind of in a wierd place, like with stuff that you wouldn't expect, and it looks kinda funny too...

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As Greg said, it was in a wierd place. We found ours in the cardboard box that came with our kit that included a bunch of documentation, CDs for various things and the Microsoft stuff.

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What is different? I think the only difference between the models of these fuse holders is the plating on the metal inside. Some are Platinum, some are gold, and some are some other metal I don't recall. To be honest, I don't know which ones are in the kit. But you should be able to order the right ones.

As to legality of using them, I suppose that techically they should be the EXACT same models, but since FIRST seems to have allowed a TOTALLY different fuse holder from Terminal Supply in a recent update, I can't seem to get my undies all in a bunch about the plating on the terminals of the fuse holder.

I say use them.

Joe J.

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First has posted the part number and functional equivalents. Yes they are solid brass and yes they are VERY HEAVY. As pointed out above, the #6 to #10 transition block needs to be wired between the main circuit breaker and the Maxi fuse block. Refer to the elctrical blueprint. Be sure to get the #10 wires connected to this block, in a good electrical contact. High resistance here means heat and a loss of power delivered to the motors.

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Well, the only real difference is that on the 40 A fuse panel they provide (as it is on the low amp panel they gave us), there was a single place to put the power from the circuit breaker, and all the fuses used that single source. On this model, all the fuses have individual slots for incoming power and output. Now I'm just a poor, simple programmer, not too bright in terms of electronics, and didn't really know if splitting the wire to go into each block would be considered bad. I figured it would be alright ... but double checking never hurts.

Thanks for your input, all.

Well, I've torn both boxes and our construction room upside down many a time, and still haven't located it. As I said, though, they included *2* of the low amp fuse panels (the 40 A fuses won't fit in it), so I figure they just put 2 of the same in by mistake and thought they had given us both types.

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Our version (received last Friday) is four individual circuits.
The KOP list does give you 2 of the low amp panels.

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Ditto

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The übergeeks recieved thier Maxi Fuse Panel replacement today. Hopefully everyone else did also.

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Are you sure that the part number they gave is the "functional equivalent" of the parts in the kit? I seriously doubt it. I am on their mailing list and I often go to there local branch to buy stuff. I have never seen anything like the Stinger Maxi Fuse holder in their building. I think they are probably refering to a Maxi Fuse holder they sell made by Littlefuse or Bussman. -- Littlefuse I think it looks like this:

The Littlefuse part number is:maxi 152 913 and a PDF spec sheet is here:

http://www.littlefuse.com/PDFs/Products/mfilf.pdf

Now I am curious, I will stop by on my way up to work on the robot tonight.

Stay tuned.

Joe J.

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Joe, Inquiring minds want to know...what do they look like and how heavy are they?

Looks Like Stingers are legal
 

Well, this was posted in the Q+A...

Q: Update 04 gave Terminal Supply as an alternate for the Maxi Fuse Block. TS said that the Maxi Fuse Block JEF-531-D is on back order. Is there an alternate for the alternate?

A: If you are looking for a spare, Terminal Supply should have more by the time our regional events begin. There are other distributors, such as Stinger Electronics (www.stingerelectronics.com) that may be able to direct you to your nearest retailer.

So, it looks like the stinger fuse holders are OK to use.

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The woman (Carrie) who I was supposed to talk with was not in the office. The people who were in were not knowledgeable.

What I DID find out is that the part is not a standard part from Terminal Supply, it is a special part number for FIRST.

Just spoke to Carrie: They are working to find another part.

Give them about about a half day or so, they sounded like they'd have something in place.

Joe J.

Some sources
 

From a google search for "Stinger SFB1MAX"

http://autosoundgear.com/tek9.asp?pg...cific=joenrnp4

http://www.darvex.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SFB1MAX&Categ ory_Code=FH

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/b...=52&product=id

http://www.audiooutfitter.com/store/...l/SFB1MAX.html

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/STISFB1MAX

I hope this helps.

Joe J.

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we got it... about a week ago, and now with more parts that came we actualy got another one... sorta weird.. but now we dont have to buy a replacement if it breaks

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I actually like these better since they have a common power input, but FIRST wants the four independent slots with the transition block. I like the transition block too since it gives a nice place to tie return wires. Too bad the stuff weighs so much.

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we dont have a prob with weight... our robto last year was... 81 pounds..it was a joke..lol this year we're going for 110lbs it will work better... hopefully

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Nick, I sometimes envy teams who start out under weight and then have a chance to grow. We start out over and start stripping and drilling to make weight. Last year at nationals, 130.00, whew! Good thing it wasn't too humid.

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We also did not recieve ours. We went to our local auto parts store for a functional replacement with the same amperage, $7.95

Is this legal? We could not wait any longer for it to come in..we had to proceed with testing..

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Yeah i put my maxi 40 amp fuse panel on my lawn mower...

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