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Jeremiah Johnson 01-03-2004 19:09

Re: Soccer Throw or Basketball Shot?
 
I personally like to mix it up a little bit. If we are on the left side, i use the basketball shot. The right is the soccer throw. You know it's just the better I feel on each side.

jacob_dilles 01-03-2004 19:53

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we started traning our team with the soccer throw, the balls were going thrugh the PVC at the top. so now its kinda bothish watever works. heh so much for techneque

Heretic121 01-03-2004 23:38

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petey... im quite intrigued on your "tricks" that you have up your selve =D i have some of my own im hoping to be able to pull if there is an unlucky coincidence of both robots on our alliance or the other alliance being DQ'ed or shut down...

Gabe Salas Jr. 02-03-2004 06:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Petey
...I also like baseball style...for certain...tricks...that we have up our sleeve...

I think he may have stumbled upon the ARGO-shot, named after our team's human player, who has utilized this type of throw. Although it is quite similar to the "high-jump dodgeball style throw." Those of you who go to UCF, NY, and Nationals will be able to witness this spectacle; including it's proper application. :D

camtunkpa 02-03-2004 10:04

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Our team chooses to use neither soccer throw or basketball shot. We found the most accurate shooting comes from a volleyball set. This was a good thing for us to practice too because one of our mentors also happens to be the girls volleyball coach at our high school. That's just a team 222 outlook on things.... we're always thinking outside the box. good luck to all.

Adam Y. 02-03-2004 19:47

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Its football throw for 564. Yup Im not kidding. And yes he's the only person we have that actually plays a sport besides another person.

Heretic121 02-03-2004 20:57

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i have a quick question on the volleyball set... i too did play volleyball for my HS freshman year, but isnt there a lot of bounce off of the balls when there is about 12-14 in there?? i mean wouldnt they just bounce out from there? and what about the movable goal? its hard to keep the balls in there even with a soccer throw...

jacob_dilles 02-03-2004 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Heretic121
i have a quick question on the volleyball set... i too did play volleyball for my HS freshman year, but isnt there a lot of bounce off of the balls when there is about 12-14 in there?? i mean wouldnt they just bounce out from there? and what about the movable goal? its hard to keep the balls in there even with a soccer throw...

from our experence the balls are pretty static once they get in the goal. it seems that the elasticity of the PVC keeps them where they are. the ones that bounce the most are the first couple

camtunkpa 02-03-2004 22:07

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The purpose of the set is to get a good arc on the ball as you know from volleyball. As the goal fills our human players adjust and put less arc on the ball.....like if you're gonna make a quick and low set to catch a team off guard with your hit. We have had some great accuracy and we found our students could shoot better this way.

Petey 04-03-2004 07:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyBear
I think he may have stumbled upon the ARGO-shot, named after our team's human player, who has utilized this type of throw. Although it is quite similar to the "high-jump dodgeball style throw." Those of you who go to UCF, NY, and Nationals will be able to witness this spectacle; including it's proper application. :D

If you speak of what I think you do, than yes, that is one of our tricks. We had more trouble implementing it on the smaller one rather than on the larger one.

Of course, all of our practicing is somewhat moot, because the comp balls are differant than the balls we got for our team. I'll have to work today to see what is happening.

I'll give you a hint--it involves a baseball type throw and doing something to an opponent's stationary goal that cannot be done with our small-ball-manipulating-only robot. It worked during our practice at our high school...I'll see today if it still works at Manchvegas.

Cheers,
--Petey

Petey 04-03-2004 07:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Y.
Its football throw for 564. Yup Im not kidding. And yes he's the only person we have that actually plays a sport besides another person.

Football throw? I assume you mean a baseball throw one handing launching thing.

Hmmm...interesting. How did you accomplish that on the practice field with the heavier balls without splitting apart your PVC uprights? The back two were constantly falling apart for us, I know.

I'm interested to see the human players this year. We weren't a team three years ago with the soccer ball game, but my team went to bash at the beach, an offseason comp. Last year, the human player job could be done by just about anyone. It doesn't seem so easy this year. My (freshman) brother and I are the human players, and we both play football and baseball. He plays basketball as well. We're the closest to jocks that our team has, I suppose, although I'm not sure you can call anyone on a robotics team a jock :D

--Petey

Gabe Salas Jr. 04-03-2004 07:22

Re: Soccer Throw or Basketball Shot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Petey
Of course, all of our practicing is somewhat moot, because the comp balls are differant than the balls we got for our team. I'll have to work today to see what is happening.

It is difficult to pull off this shot with the competition balls. Requires precise accuracy, and a lot of power behind that ball in order to successfully pull it off. This is mainly because the competition balls is lighter, and more durable than the "spare" balls we have been using. Someone is bound to do it, or at least try to do it at one of the regionals.

Heretic121 07-03-2004 16:55

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i saw a few shot put throws at BAE but where somewhat un effective because the balls were so slippery... basketball somewhat dominated over the soccer style because they were slippery and by pushing you had more grip... with soccer, at least for me... the first day & 1/2 i had to re-adjust to the balls and then switch again for the last day or so... so you HAVE to be able to change your style due to the balls starting to rub on the carpet...

Usman - Theory6 15-03-2004 11:37

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i'm from team 1241 and shooting the balls like basketballs seemed to work really well for us.

danield710 15-03-2004 14:59

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i prefer the basketball shot, mainly because i play basketball and it just comes easier to me, but what i noticed with the soccer throw was that the ball was slipping mroe and it would go out the back of the goal, with the basketball shot u can put more arc on the shot, i shot 5/6 with the basketball shot


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