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TheShadow 21-02-2004 21:59

The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I noticed the AMD vs. Intel debate spinning off this way, so let's start this up: Which do you perfer: PC or Mac? Personally I love PC and hate mac with a passion.

Katie Reynolds 21-02-2004 22:13

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
The last time we had a Mac vs. PC debate, things got kind of heated.

Some things to help keep this going smoothly ...

Posting "I hate ____ just because it really sucks" or "_____ is SO much better because I said so." or even "_____ is WAY better because my cousin's best friend's sister works for that company and we get free computers. So that's why." is just going to start fights and flame-wars ... try to keep responses to something more like, "I prefer ____ because the blah blah blah blah seems to be better than the other. It's more compatible with blah blah blah ... " etc, etc.

If you disagree with a point someone else has made, saying, "NO! You're totally wrong!! ____ is way better just because it is!" isn't going to help anything. Defending a counterpoint works so much better.

Lastly, if you don't have something reasonable to say, just don't say anything at all. :p

Let's see if we can do this without having to lock this thread. :)

Aaron Knight 21-02-2004 22:47

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I personally prefer Macs, although I use PCs as well (and more obscure systems too). My computer collection at the moment consists of an iMac G4 (the flat panel :)), an iBook, and an IBM server-class Pentium pro machine. I use all three, but the iMac primarily. Mac OS X 10.3 is a solid operating system that I've found to be much more secure and easy to use than any Windows box I've used. Yes, Windows has come a long way, but I think it still has a ways to go.

Other operating systems I'm used to include Solaris - which takes the power underlying Mac OS X (UNIX), and marries it in this case under CDE for a GUI that is so-so. So there's my stance :)

I've used Macs since System 6 (early '90s), and Windows since 3.11 for Workgroups. Solaris is recent :)

David Kelly 21-02-2004 23:03

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShadow
I noticed the AMD vs. Intel debate spinning off this way, so let's start this up: Which do you perfer: PC or Mac? Personally I love PC and hate mac with a passion.

This subject done many, many before times. If this thread does get out of hand, it will be closed promptly.

Heretic121 22-02-2004 00:29

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
as i see it...

PC's for gaming...

Mac's for everything else...

=D

evulish 22-02-2004 17:06

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I wish people would explain themself when they say they hate Macs. It seems that more people hold a grudge with Apple IIe's from elementary school or something. New Mac's are awesome. OSX has the perfect combination of power and ease of use. It looks great and works so fluidly. More game developers are designing games for Mac.. so there has begun to be a decent selection of games. Also, since many companies use iD's Quake engines in their games, it's simpler for them to port to Mac.

I'm also not a Windows-hater.. it works for me. I'm still happy with my AthlonXP desktop. It was much cheaper than any Mac, but it doesn't look nearly as cool. :)

Ryan Dognaux 22-02-2004 17:23

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I've actually considered a mac in the future, but I just don't think I could handle the change from Windows to another operating system. I think I'll go with a Sony or a Toshiba.

evulish 22-02-2004 18:04

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
The switch is so easy. If you're talking about laptops, Apple laptops are way better than any Windows laptop I have ever used. The interface is so simple that anyone can use it. I had never touched OSX before I got my Powerbook, but no work of any kind was required to use it. Plugged everything in. Bam. It worked.

If you're talking about desktops, then whatever.. But I don't ever plan on buying a Windows laptop :)

Brandon Martus 22-02-2004 18:28

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I've used both.
I've owned both.
They both have their high points.
They both have their low points.

I prefer Windows over Mac; I can work faster on a Windows machine, most likely due to the lack of experience on a Mac.

Joe Matt 22-02-2004 21:12

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I use a Mac and PC. I perfer the Mac over a PC. I also own an iPod.

Jay H 237 22-02-2004 21:30

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I will have to go with the pc. I grew up with Windows, use it everyday, my company uses nothing but pcs so that is what I know and am comfortable with. I will say the Macs are good machines but I have limited experience on them and are somewhat lost and uncomfortable when using them. I also build my own computers, customize, and upgrade them and I also don't know of much support and vendors for doing this in the Apple world.

Jonathan M. 22-02-2004 21:52

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I have a PC that I got cheap. I've worked on the best of both, played on the best of both, and surfed on the best of both (OSX, XP) and I most definatley prefer Macs. They use up so much less sytem resources, and are better all around, no crashes (or at least very very few). The general look of the mac is better, but that's not nearly close to being on my top reasons for preference. The audio and video codecs are awesome, they are generally faster (though pentium pro rules), and well Mac laptops just can't be beaten. There are so many more reasons why I prefer a mac but a combination of being tired, and knowing that most people who prefer windows will not change their mind. Because human beings in nature are creatures of habit.

Jonathanb 22-02-2004 21:53

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShadow
I noticed the AMD vs. Intel debate spinning off this way, so let's start this up: Which do you perfer: PC or Mac? Personally I love PC and hate mac with a passion.

PC ALL THE WAY!!! :D

evulish 23-02-2004 01:48

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan M.
They use up so much less sytem resources

Uhh.. what!? :) OSX is pretty resource-heavy. Well, you can turn off all the super-fancy stuff and really strip it down.. but then it's not pretty! :D

D.J. Fluck 23-02-2004 11:38

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Ive used both. I hate both, but I'm going to stick to my PC. Back in high school the yearbook staff used Macs with adobe pagemaker and photoshop ranging from OS 8 to OS 9.2 and I tell you that OS 9.2 is total garbage. I've yet to check out OSX, but aparently from what I've read and heard its a major improvement from the previous versions. The one thing that really urks me about Macs is the file server that they purchased to store the yearbook. That thing was down more then it worked. I think they sent it back and had it replaced/repaired at least 3 times over an 18 month period. If it wasn't for making backups on zip disks, the 02 yearbook would never have been finished. The other thing that bothers me is pricing. The cheapest non-student discount computer that I've seen is 799. The laptop I bought in September was 100 dollars cheaper (after rebates and stuff). It may not be the most powerful machine ever, but it does everything I need it to do. I'm not convinced that its worth the extra money for what I need, especially on a college student "budget." Maybe one day when I aquire some money I'll purchase a mac. For now, i'm sticking with my pc.

Aaron Knight 23-02-2004 15:22

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
Ive used both. I hate both, but I'm going to stick to my PC. Back in high school the yearbook staff used Macs with adobe pagemaker and photoshop ranging from OS 8 to OS 9.2 and I tell you that OS 9.2 is total garbage. I've yet to check out OSX, but aparently from what I've read and heard its a major improvement from the previous versions. The one thing that really urks me about Macs is the file server that they purchased to store the yearbook. That thing was down more then it worked. I think they sent it back and had it replaced/repaired at least 3 times over an 18 month period. If it wasn't for making backups on zip disks, the 02 yearbook would never have been finished. The other thing that bothers me is pricing. The cheapest non-student discount computer that I've seen is 799. The laptop I bought in September was 100 dollars cheaper (after rebates and stuff). It may not be the most powerful machine ever, but it does everything I need it to do. I'm not convinced that its worth the extra money for what I need, especially on a college student "budget." Maybe one day when I aquire some money I'll purchase a mac. For now, i'm sticking with my pc.

Your sig, on the other hand, indicates some connection to having used Mac OS X, does it not? That is the "Aqua" window bar present in OS X.... ;)

Bharat Nain 23-02-2004 19:17

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Windows - Gaming, Some graphiics stuff which does not work on Linux and Mac

Mac - Anything and everything possible. I love that thing.

I've just had bad experiences with Windows. I feel a mac is much more secure and reliable. In my eyes, Windows has too many flaws.

evulish 23-02-2004 19:49

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Well, I'm sure any OS would have just as many security flaws if 90% of all home PCs ran it. Although I do agree that a Unix-based system offers more security due to user priveleges, the biggest part to security is the user. Windows users range from 3-year-olds, grandmothers, and hackers (jargon file meaning). I don't think my Grandmother would be able to figure out the difference between a screensaver I emailed to her or a virus that was spoofed using my email address.

(Wow.. I'm really arguing both sides here.. oh well :P)

D.J. Fluck 23-02-2004 22:08

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron Knight
Your sig, on the other hand, indicates some connection to having used Mac OS X, does it not? That is the "Aqua" window bar present in OS X.... ;)

It was the only banner from Listen-To.com that would fit in my signature w/o it getting too overly large.

Aaron Knight 23-02-2004 23:53

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
It was the only banner from Listen-To.com that would fit in my signature w/o it getting too overly large.

...oopsie :D.......

Kyle Fenton 23-02-2004 23:55

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
Macs are so much easier and simpler to use. Especially when it comes to multimedia.

I have used both extensively and love how much OS X is intergraded with everything.

Most of the people who hate macs, don't know anything about macs. I have heard all of it, and trust me none of it make sense, and they often present mis-information.

Personally I don't care which OS people use. But I believe that people should look for alternative OSes instead of just Windows.

gsensel 24-02-2004 00:15

Re: The Ever-Crazy Mac vs. PC debate
 
I have used both, and worked on both.
In my opinion as many others have said they both have their advantages. Windows are good for games and Macs are good for multimedia and also are becoming good for games.
My solution to this is virtual PC which in it newest version was bought and is now owned by Microsoft, so it should work fairly good.
And to DJ's comment about the 2002 year book they only had problems becasue I was not there due to not passing a class and having to retake it, or I had graduated since he wasn't clear which one he talked about.


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