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Thee_Mateo 23-02-2004 14:25

Ball Corral blocking
 
Hello My name is Matthew and I am from team 713 in NY. I was wondering whether it is illegal for a robot to block the opposing team's ball corral from their robots depositing balls. I do not see it in the rules but what I do see is that you cannot goal tend.

thanks

Rob Colatutto 23-02-2004 14:34

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Yes it is legal, as long as one robot does not block both the opponents ball corals at the same time.

ShadowKnight 23-02-2004 14:58

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
you might want to read through your rulebook a bit more thouroughly though because it is in there and you might have missed other key information ;)

KenWittlief 23-02-2004 17:34

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
actually that was not in the manual at first, it came out in an update

hopefully once the bot ships teams will have a chance to download all the updates (most have been incorporated into the revised manual) and catch up on all the rules before our first regional.

EddieMcD 23-02-2004 17:40

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
The rule you are looking for is <G26>.

Thee_Mateo 24-02-2004 08:11

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
where on first website is the link for rule updates?

thanks.

shyra1353 24-02-2004 11:20

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
the website for the manual and the upate is www.usfirst.org/robotics/doc_updt.htm

Good Luck !!

kiwanji 01-03-2004 12:40

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowKnight
you might want to read through your rulebook a bit more thouroughly though because it is in there and you might have missed other key information ;)

If you know the answer why don't you just share rather than make someone go back and search? I have seen quite a bit of this lately in the forum. FIRST is all about open and willful information sharing not making fellow students jump through hoops.

Rich Wong 01-03-2004 12:58

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thee_Mateo
Hello My name is Matthew and I am from team 713 in NY. I was wondering whether it is illegal for a robot to block the opposing team's ball corral from their robots depositing balls. I do not see it in the rules but what I do see is that you cannot goal tend.

thanks


http://www2.usfirst.org/2004comp/4-T...corporated.pdf
Page 4:

"<G26> A ROBOT can only block 1 Ball Chute at a time."
:)

Max Lobovsky 01-03-2004 19:46

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Not to be overly lawyerly or anything with the rules, but the rules do say a robot can only block 1 chute at a time. I was wondering what this means for two robots or say... a robot and a mobile goal. Can they block both chutes?

jacob_dilles 01-03-2004 19:48

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxlobovsky
Not to be overly lawyerly or anything with the rules, but the rules do say a robot can only block 1 chute at a time. I was wondering what this means for two robots or say... a robot and a mobile goal. Can they block both chutes?

lol that would be one heck of a stratigy...
or while your at it move the goals to block the other drivers veiw...
with the yellow ball still on top... :D :D :D :rolleyes:

Max Lobovsky 01-03-2004 19:52

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jacob_dilles
lol that would be one heck of a stratigy...
or while your at it move the goals to block the other drivers veiw...
with the yellow ball still on top... :D :D :D :rolleyes:

well really, is there anything against that? and btw, that would be a heck of a strategy :)

Rich Wong 01-03-2004 20:01

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxlobovsky
Not to be overly lawyerly or anything with the rules, but the rules do say a robot can only block 1 chute at a time. I was wondering what this means for two robots or say... a robot and a mobile goal. Can they block both chutes?

Yes, robots, movable goals, 2X balls can be used legally to block the ball chutes.
But A robot can only block A chute at any time.

:yikes:

nuggetsyl 01-03-2004 21:33

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Wong
Yes, robots, movable goals, 2X balls can be used legally to block the ball chutes.
But A robot can only block A chute at any time.

:yikes:

but 2 robots can block 2 chutes right??

Paradox1350 01-03-2004 21:40

Re: Ball Corral blocking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
but 2 robots can block 2 chutes right??

Right, but that prevents your alliance from scoring points too, since you are tied up blocking and can do nothing except sit there. It could work in the final (elimination) matches, but if I were the other alliance, I would head to the center platform, take up as much space as possible, and grab the bar. At which point you are now 100 points behind with no time to make it up by gathering and scoring 20 balls (or 10 and a multiplyer.)

So whereas you CAN do it, I, personally, would't make that my main strategy.


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