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galewind 07-03-2004 00:43

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lets put it this way: I sure am glad you're not going to annapolis (your robot, I mean). You guys are nasty with that shimmy! Great job! Good luck at UTC!

Gabe Salas Jr. 07-03-2004 00:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAngryDaisy
...Next up: 233, 219, 1089 vs 869, 1382, 375

(excuse me for typos, I'm doing this on a small handheld pager)...

It is really nice of you to mention that Team 233 was at the New Jersey Regional, even though we were not there. Must have been another team. ;) I think it may have been 223. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks.

George A. 07-03-2004 01:00

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Yeah, sorry about the whole hanging on team 237, but you have to admit, it wan an intense match. Also congrats to teams 237, 56, and 303. Their final match in the quarterfinals was one of the most riviting matches i've seen in my time at F.I.R.S.T. NJ was awesome and we'll see all the teams later for a rematch

Elgin Clock 07-03-2004 01:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
Yeah, sorry about the whole hanging on team 237, but you have to admit, it wan an intense match. Also congrats to teams 237, 56, and 303. Their final match in the quarterfinals was one of the most riviting matches i've seen in my time at F.I.R.S.T. NJ was awesome and we'll see all the teams later for a rematch

The match itself was intense, but not as intense as the 10 minute wait for a ruling. But I guess now we know that everything has to be checked and double checked for a score to be posted. That's just the way it is!

RoboMom 07-03-2004 07:42

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Congratulations to all the teams at NJ. It was an amazing weekend. So many volunteers doing so much. I would caution that everyone really pays attention to all the ways to get a penalty. Our alliance got 2 in an early match and we are still guessing that it must have been someone stepping over the line (twice). We were never able to find out as the team was well off the field when they found out and no way to go back and ask questions. They tried.
RE: the Arena. The layout into and out of the pits needs to be addressed. Watching hundreds and hundreds hurrying back to the pits, pushing (in a nice way, but still pushing) down those stairs after the alliances were chosen was very scary. There needs to be at least one other entrance/exit.
We are looking forward to Annapolis!

[/quote]On the organizational side of things, I give an enormous amount of respect toward the crew and volunteers, they were amazing in making everything so smooth.

HOWEVER, I felt that the Sovereign Bank Arena, beloved stadium around the corner from my house, was not laid out in a way that was efficient for us to do what we needed to do. I was constantly on my cell phone communicating with teammates in the stands because I couldn't leave the pit for too long, but needed to get to my personal belongings, scouting sheets, etc. Being that it took 5 minutes to walk from pit to stands, we had a difficult time keeping track of who was where when we needed something from a specific teammate. Having only one entrance to and from the pit made this tough, especially because our stands section was 2/3 of the way around. I think that if they chose the SBA next year, they should try to open the pit on both sides, making it a complete half-circle, which would be easier for everyone.

Other than that, I was really pleased with how it went! I know they had problems with the scoring system, but just like with our robots, it takes testing, work, and revamping to get it right. I'm really glad to have been at the regional this year, and good luck to everyone else in their future events!

Hope to see you in Annapolis![/quote]

Aignam 07-03-2004 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboMom007
I think that if they chose the SBA next year, they should try to open the pit on both sides, making it a complete half-circle, which would be easier for everyone.

If I'm correct, the Sovereign Bank Arena will be the venue for next year, at least.

JohnBoucher 07-03-2004 09:02

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Pic of Team #11 hanging on Team #237

ErichKeane 07-03-2004 09:35

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I just wanted to point something out abuot the hanging of 11 on 237. My team, which made the mistake of underestimating all our opponents, and thinking all we had to worry about was 237, asked about the SAME thing before hand. The head judge said that as long as we were hanging from a part of the bot that was above/even with the bar, that it would count.

It confused me to see him give a different response when it actually happened.

ngreen 07-03-2004 10:01

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Whatever the response It should be consistent with the definitions of hanging and supported laid out in the manual. If you were hook on to 237 such that when they are removed you would fall into place as hanging you should be awarded the points, ie you hook goes over their hook and over the bar. If you a solely attached to 237 and would not be hanging if they weren't there you would not be awarded the points. I'm sure the refs used this and saw that 11 would not be hanging if 237 was removed.

KathieK 07-03-2004 15:00

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Quote:

The awards ceremony was good, and had a lot of fans cheering from one particular "Everything I need to know I learned in FIRST" poem donated to be read here by RAGE 173 from CT.
Just so you know, we didn't give the poem to anyone specifically to be read at the Mid-Atlantic Regional, but it was really nice to hear it read. We had a few copies of it in our pit area. We'll make up some more for UTC Regional; will post it on our website, and a copy is available in the CD White paper section. We're glad you enjoyed it.

Trinora 07-03-2004 15:37

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Though I mentioned some of this in the <a href="http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26448">Congrats Thread</a>, I feel the need to repeat at least a portion of it.

As one of the main scouters and head of Stategy, many of you teams awed and scared the crap out of me. I could not have prayed for better good luck on our part, and there were many many close calls. Thanks to our alliance partners (Robbe Robotics (56) and Panther Robotics (303)), and the many teams that had us too nervous to scream in the stands.

I had a few favorites, but I have to agree with others that 1403 had an impressive robot. One of our engineers called it the "gumball machine", a name I found wildly appropriate. Also, I think both team 219 and 1257 did amazingly, given the fact that both were almost entirely student built. Thanks to 195 giving like to the graveyard known as the stands, and 869 for their amazing human player which I had the pleasure to meet. I fear that most of the teams in Annapolis and UTC will feel both cursed and blessed to have these NJ vets entering their ranks. Keep up the hard work!

Rich Wong 07-03-2004 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ErichKeane
I just wanted to point something out abuot the hanging of 11 on 237. My team, which made the mistake of underestimating all our opponents, and thinking all we had to worry about was 237, asked about the SAME thing before hand. The head judge said that as long as we were hanging from a part of the bot that was above/even with the bar, that it would count.

It confused me to see him give a different response when it actually happened.

There is no question about the ruling on "11 hanging on 237"- the Head referee's call was correct with with way the game rules are written. We had the rule book opened and reviewed by a second head referee at this regional.
Team 11's hanger was not even with the bar.

Joe Ross 07-03-2004 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ngreen
Whatever the response It should be consistent with the definitions of hanging and supported laid out in the manual. If you were hook on to 237 such that when they are removed you would fall into place as hanging you should be awarded the points, ie you hook goes over their hook and over the bar.

The correct ruling was made. The defenition of HANGING says directly SUPPORTED by the bar. Even in the scenario that you posed, the robot would be SUPPORTED by the bar, but not DIRECTLY supported, so it wouldn't be HANGING.

Tanya237 07-03-2004 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BillBartell
Our team differs much from oter teams. On our team we have no engineers no mentors and no large sponsors. The robot was mainly designed and built by three very didicated seniors including my self. I would in the most polite way like to brag that a team designed, fabricated, built, and driven by 3 18 yr olds, was able to make the 2nd seed in entering the finals.

Wow!
I don't remember if I had a chance to talk to anyone on 219, but I had no idea. You guys are amazing. While we were scouting, you had better believe our legs were shaking when we saw you guys. Your robot rocked, your hp was great, and the drivers, wow.
More than a few times, all of 237 had our fingers crossed doing the shimmy dance, hoping...
You guys gave us a run for our money. Good luck in your other comps.

Spikey 07-03-2004 20:00

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We were a bit disappointed that we were not picked, we had some really bad luck with alliance pairing, it seemed that every robot we got paired with had a problem. We had a robot that ran out of the field and got DQd. We had at least two partners who flipped over, and another 3 or 4 who had driving problems. Losing the last two matches on Saturday did not help. I hope we get better luck with pairings next regional. I hope those of you who go to Annapolis look for us, we were one of the few consistent cappers at NJ.
Good luck at your next regional.

ErichKeane 07-03-2004 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey
We were a bit disappointed that we were not picked, we had some really bad luck with alliance pairing, it seemed that every robot we got paired with had a problem. We had a robot that ran out of the field and got DQd. We had at least two partners who flipped over, and another 3 or 4 who had driving problems. Losing the last two matches on Saturday did not help. I hope we get better luck with pairings next regional. I hope those of you who go to Annapolis look for us, we were one of the few consistent cappers at NJ.
Good luck at your next regional.

Im sorry that you guys did not get picked. You were certianly on a short list for our team. Given another 1/2 hr to choose, and things could have gone the other way with our picks.

As for 237- you guys rocked. You had an amazing bot, and we knew from the beginning that you would be up there. We did talk to you guys quite a few times actually, and at one point, had you guys considering us for an alliance.

It was a bit disappointing to finish in such a dramatic fashion (5 inches more on our pole , and we would be in the semi finals!), and unfortunately the end of our year. But it is the best our team has ever done, and infact, the first time my school has ever been seeded better than 40 or so. So we seniors leave a tough legacy to live up to ;) I wish you guys all luck with the rest of your competititons!

Rich Kressly 10-03-2004 09:42

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Since FIRST hasn't yet posted the NJ Awards, can someone fill in some or all of these blanks so we all can give proper congrats to deserving teams (please, only post if you are SURE you are correct):
Regional Chairman’s Award - 714
Regional Woodie Flowers Award - David Beck
Engineering Inspiration Award - 88
Regional Winner 1 - 237
Regional Winner 2 - 56
Regional Winner 3 - 303
Regional Finalist 1 - 613
Regional Finalist 2 - 716
Regional Finalist 3 - 87
Highest Rookie Seed Award - 1403
DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit Award
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award
General Motors Industrial Design Award
Johnson & Johnson Sportsmanship Award
Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers Entrepreneurship
Motorola Quality Award
Xerox Creativity Award
Imagery Award
Leadership in Control Award - 25
Website Design Award
Autodesk Visualization Award - Regional - 103
Rookie Inspiration Award
Rookie All Star Award
Judges Award Friday
Judges Award Saturday

Jessica Boucher 10-03-2004 09:47

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General Motors Industrial Design Award - 237

Joe3 10-03-2004 10:58

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Judges Award Saturday-365

jjdebner 10-03-2004 11:22

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count team 195 for J + J Sportmanship award :D congrads to everyone... although the audience was dead most of the time hahaha

Andy Brockway 10-03-2004 11:27

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Regional Finalist 1 - 716 (Alliance Captain) -Correction
Regional Finalist 2 - 613
Regional Finalist 3 - 87
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award - 716

tchescow 10-03-2004 11:37

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Judges Award Friday - 1156 :D

Rich Kressly 10-03-2004 11:38

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OK..so far here's what we know:

Regional Chairman’s Award - 714
Regional Woodie Flowers Award - David Beck
Engineering Inspiration Award - 88
Regional Winner 1 - 237
Regional Winner 2 - 56
Regional Winner 3 - 303
Regional Finalist 1 - 716
Regional Finalist 2 - 613
Regional Finalist 3 - 87
Highest Rookie Seed Award - 1403
DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit Award
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award - 716
General Motors Industrial Design Award - 237
Johnson & Johnson Sportsmanship Award - 195
Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers Entrepreneurship
Motorola Quality Award
Xerox Creativity Award
Imagery Award
Leadership in Control Award - 25
Website Design Award - 752
Autodesk Visualization Award - Regional - 103
Rookie Inspiration Award
Rookie All Star Award
Judges Award Friday - 1156
Judges Award Saturday - 365
Volunteer of the Year

Keep filling in those blanks, check the video, do whatever it takes...

Mike8519 10-03-2004 12:18

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Xerox creativity: 303
I believe the volunteer of the year was Don Bauers

FIRSTbrinabot 10-03-2004 13:11

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Team #1302 won the Entrapraneurship award! :yikes:

Mike Schroeder 10-03-2004 13:16

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1403, won highest rookie seed, and Rookie All star

Rich Kressly 10-03-2004 14:38

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OK... only a few more to go.....
DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit Award
Motorola Quality Award (was this 102? ... please verify for me)
Imagery Award
Rookie Inspiration Award

Bill Enslen 10-03-2004 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross
The correct ruling was made. The defenition of HANGING says directly SUPPORTED by the bar. Even in the scenario that you posed, the robot would be SUPPORTED by the bar, but not DIRECTLY supported, so it wouldn't be HANGING.

Joe is right. I was at the scoring table when the judges were consulting the rule book. The ruling was made on the basis of the word DIRECTLY. The rule book is clearly written: A robot must be DIRECTLY supported by the bar. If robot A is hanging on top of robot B's mechanism, even though robot B is hanging on the bar, robot A would be INDIRECTLY supported by the bar, but not DIRECTLY supported by the bar. I hope this rule was and will continue to be applied consistently at all events.

Rich Kressly 10-03-2004 15:13

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Only need TWO MORE .. please double check for me folks.

Regional Chairman’s Award - 714
Regional Woodie Flowers Award - David Beck
Engineering Inspiration Award - 88
Regional Winner 1 - 237
Regional Winner 2 - 56
Regional Winner 3 - 303
Regional Finalist 1 - 716
Regional Finalist 2 - 613
Regional Finalist 3 - 87
Highest Rookie Seed Award - 1403
DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit Award - ?????
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award - 716
General Motors Industrial Design Award - 237
Johnson & Johnson Sportsmanship Award - 195
Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers Entrepreneurship - 1302
Motorola Quality Award - 102
Xerox Creativity Award - 303
Imagery Award - 869
Leadership in Control Award - 25
Website Design Award - 752
Autodesk Visualization Award - Regional - 103
Rookie Inspiration Award - ?????
Rookie All Star Award - 1403
Judges Award Friday - 1156
Judges Award Saturday - 365
Volunteer of the Year - Donald Bowers

Need rookie inspiration and team spirit

Tom Bottiglieri 10-03-2004 15:16

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ahh crap can anyone remember the team number of the viking team? they were the team spirit winners

Trinora 10-03-2004 15:29

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Rookie Inspiration Award- 1257, a completely student built robot. I believe they were using Zip ties around their wheels to help turn and climb. They gave me a necklace. :.D

Rich Kressly 10-03-2004 15:56

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we've got em all but team spirit . who knows it ... don't be shy ....

Trinora 10-03-2004 15:58

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Oh! 869?

Scott Shaw 237 10-03-2004 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trinora
Wasn't it TJSquared? Or Moe? or 195?


No, it was that team with the gold headress things.

Ted Boucher 10-03-2004 16:03

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To clarify a earlier post about the finals.

During Round 3 : 25 and 103 vs. 237 and 303 ; 1 seed vs. 8 seed. Team 237 was NOT disabled. At the start, team 25 ramed 237 for awhile. Then team 25 climbed the platform and rasied their arm. Team 237's robot climb up the first step partially, enough to hit 25 and make them tip and fall ( This was proboly becasue of the wieght distribution of the robot at the time ). The 2x ball did not play a factor in it and was pushed away when 103 hung. The link below shows 237 patially on the frist platform, 25 on the ground, and the 2x ball 10 feet away.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...&quiet=Verbose

Rich Kressly 10-03-2004 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Boucher
To clarify a earlier post about the finals.

During Round 3 : 25 and 103 vs. 237 and 303 ; 1 seed vs. 8 seed. Team 237 was NOT disabled. At the start, team 25 ramed 237 for awhile. Then team 25 climbed the platform and rasied their arm. Team 237's robot climb up the first step partially, enough to hit 25 and make them tip and fall ( This was proboly becasue of the wieght distribution of the robot at the time ). The 2x ball did not play a factor in it and was pushed away when 103 hung. The link below shows 237 patially on the frist platform, 25 on the ground, and the 2x ball 10 feet away.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...&quiet=Verbose

These three matches (1 vs. 8) were awesome to watch. Two great alliances with lots of action on the platform and bar and 303 doing it's hoover act on the floor.

Goober65 11-03-2004 02:24

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Exciting?
Well, yeah, but Rich, it was also very intense, I could tell by the death grip I was in from you because of the suspense...lol.
Anyway, it was great, and congrats to the rookie drive team, you guys did great for your first time out.

-Steve


WHOOT! I'm an Alumni now!!! :D

Elgin Clock 11-03-2004 05:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToMMan b182
ahh crap can anyone remember the team number of the viking team? they were the team spirit winners

They were not vikings, they were The Power Cords with a cool chariot carrying their robot named Maximus, Team 869 from Middlesex HS in Middlesex NJ.

That much I do remember.. lol yeah right, I got it from the program book!!
But I am almost positive that they were the ones with the gold "wigs" and they won the spirit award.

cyberknights195 11-03-2004 07:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
They were not vikings, they were The Power Cords with a cool chariot carrying their robot named Maximus, Team 869 from Middlesex HS in Middlesex NJ.

That much I do remember.. lol yeah right, I got it from the program book!!
But I am almost positive that they were the ones with the gold "wigs" and they won the spirit award.


I am positive that the Power Cord did not win the spirit award. I think they won the imagery award. The team that won the Team Spirit where sitting behind us, and Power cord was never behind us...

Rich Kressly 11-03-2004 09:35

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Power Cord won imagery - it's posted on their website. Still need spirit

Mike8519 11-03-2004 20:51

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And the winner for team spirit is........ 1257!

Regional Chairman?s Award - 714
Regional Woodie Flowers Award - David Beck
Engineering Inspiration Award - 88
Regional Winner 1 - 237
Regional Winner 2 - 56
Regional Winner 3 - 303
Regional Finalist 1 - 716
Regional Finalist 2 - 613
Regional Finalist 3 - 87
Highest Rookie Seed Award - 1403
DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit Award - 1257
Delphi "Driving Tomorrow's Technology" Award - 716
General Motors Industrial Design Award - 237
Johnson & Johnson Sportsmanship Award - 195
Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers Entrepreneurship - 1302
Motorola Quality Award - 102
Xerox Creativity Award - 303
Imagery Award - 869
Leadership in Control Award - 25
Website Design Award - 752
Autodesk Visualization Award - Regional - 103
Rookie Inspiration Award - 1257
Rookie All Star Award - 1403
Judges Award Friday - 1156
Judges Award Saturday - 365
Volunteer of the Year - Donald Bowers

Elgin Clock 11-03-2004 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike8519
And the winner for team spirit is........ 1257!

DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit Award - 1257

Wait, was that the team, who went up to get awards back to back???

Tom Bottiglieri 11-03-2004 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
Wait, was that the team, who went up to get awards back to back???


1403 for two rookie awards

Mike8519 12-03-2004 06:26

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one of our team members wrote down all the winners and their awards so im sure those are right.

tribotec_ca88 21-07-2004 17:04

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I've been having some flashbacks of the New Jersey regional lately...just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS to every single team there!!! I was impressed not only by the quality of the machines but by the enthusiasm and energy present during the entire competition! It felt like Super Bowl or World Cup or something! I as a human player was already excited throughout the games but just being in such a positive environment really got the adrenaline rush going. I can't even begin to say how much fun I had and can't wait til build season again . . .

Once again, congrats to teams 303, 56, 237...and thanks to the NJ regional staff, refs, parents, volunteers, and to all teams that contributed in helping our team (Tribotec, 1382) and in maintaining the FIRST spirit!!!!

:confused: hey, where's my old buddy from Gizmoe???? I need a HUG! *LoL*


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