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kmcclary 08-04-2004 15:28

Re: High Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Dzdconfusd)
[Conveyoring to the static goal during autonomous] is clearly not within the rules. Only a human player or gravity can score a small ball. No robot may assist small balls into the goal without penalty.

Augh, You're right! (Slaps own head) I totally forgot about that...

I guess THAT record may then boil down to the "luck and good goal positioning" between all of the alliances that DID manage to uncap and stick a rolling goal under the dump and THEN trigger it.

So, who out there is in contention for "highest score made during autonomous mode"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Dzdconfusd)
I believe we tied [13 balls caught from the drop] in Philly. I have to go to the tape to verify.

Cool! Anyone manage catch MORE than 13 balls from the drop?

FYI, we had everything NICELY "dialed in" during practice, and our two 13 catches came during our first two rounds on Friday. Perfect alignment every time. The ones not caught were due to "throat congestion bounce out", so we didn't think we could do much better than this with our current robot's geometry.

As an aside, a PAINFUL lesson: After our first two rounds, it stopped working! Turns out that without first discussing it with anyone else (or asking permission from the student lead programmer), an overzealous first year student "ASST Programmer" (NOT our lead student) decided to "tweak" that BEAUTIFULLY running "catcher" program without telling anyone, and WITHOUT FIRST BACKING UP the WORKING parameter set... <sigh>
We also found out later that the replacement code hadn't even been TESTED on the practice field. He didn't THINK about WHY we weren't catching more, he just thought "those numbers looked better to him"... <head in hands>

It took us a couple of rounds to REALIZE just WHY it stopped working, because who would DELIBERATELY tweak a working program??? Once he fessed up, THEN we discovered we didn't have a RECORD of the OLD parameters. We ended up spending the rest of that day trying to "rediscover the magic numbers" on the practice field... We think we have it NOW, but it messed up several of our middle rounds. Once working, we then never had another chance to try it on the field to duplicate that initial performance. NONE of our later partners could trigger the tee, and our OTHER autonomous programs were more valuable to the alliance.

Lessons learned:
1) INSIST your programming staff ALWAYS saves a FULL set of the programming in a new, separate directory BEFORE EVERY ROUND (disk is cheap). That way, you CAN "go back to Round N's behavior" later if it turns out to be better than your later tweaks...
2) ONLY the Lead Student Programmer is allowed to download, and is charged with insuring EVERYTHING is TESTED and approved, BEFORE it may go in.
3) NO ONE should EVER let untested code be loaded into the robot just before a round, for ANY reason. A known behavior (even NOTHING) is MUCH better and SAFER than an unpredictable one.

Uh... to put it mildly, that programmer sure got an earful from the rest of the team... <grin> ("And the floggings shall continue until morale improves"... ;) )

Anyway... Back to the high scores.

Our current record is "13 caught at 45 seconds". Though we WERE positioned under it during autonomous, neither of our partners could trigger it for us on either of those two rounds, so we simply waited without moving. But it COULD have been for an autonomous catch... (The one time they DID trigger it for us was during round THREE, the round where to our shock the robot *first* wandered out of position... <sigh>)

So, who here can beat 13 balls caught in their hopper from the dump?

- Keith

AmyPrib 08-04-2004 15:42

Re: High Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmcclary
Did anyone get ALL 18 balls into their robot bin from the drop? Our robot (Team 1015) caught 13 balls twice at 45 sec so we'll toss that out there as the "score to beat". I *think* we also got one or two during autonomous (we weren't QUITE in position when it was triggered) but I'll have to verify if we got any at all.

- Keith

I believe at Midwest that Team 93, with their giant green ball basket, was able to catch all 18 balls at least once. And if it wasn't all 18, it was minimum 17!

Yan Wang 08-04-2004 15:46

Re: High Scores
 
I believe Team 1241, Theory6, can. They were rookie all stars at GLR and the Canadian Super Regional... I saw their 140 (or was it 130) and 150 point matches in Canada... if they are under the drop, they catch nearly all of them.

kmcclary 10-04-2004 08:54

Re: High Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yan Wang
I believe Team 1241, Theory6, can. They were rookie all stars at GLR and the Canadian Super Regional... I saw their 140 (or was it 130) and 150 point matches in Canada... if they are under the drop, they catch nearly all of them.

I was at GLR, and saw them run. Their "throat net funnel" design looked cool, and was VERY effective. But they too had problems with bounce-out from the fast dump.

BTW, in operation 1241's machine reminded me a LOT of the egg from the movie "Alien", opening up. Creepy <shudder>, yet utterly fascinating to watch at the same time (our net box simply expanded at the lower edges, with netting wedges to fill the gaps). It's only problem was a vulnerability to the "apple in a pig's mouth / big ball stuff" move if they set up for the drop too soon. They were eating balls like mad all day Friday. But in the very first round on Saturday, another team dropped a big ball into their throat at second 42, and all the small balls bounced off. That caused the entire audience to jump to their feet in surprise, and really set a high excitement mood for the rest of the day. As one of only a few ball bin machines there, they were also SERIOUSLY harassed as a major threat by teams trying to push them, or seize them with their big ball arms and drag them away.

Cool machine, 1241! Can anyone from your team tell us how many max you DID manage to catch?

How about Team 93?

- Keith

theory6 10-04-2004 12:56

Re: High Scores
 
If our robot positioned properly under the ball chute we average 14 - 18 everytime...given no pushing/shoving by other robots. At GLR we managed to catch 17 at one time and score all those 17 balls thanks to our human player :) At Canadian Regional not as much, probably 12 - 16 due to implications in our robot functions. Our highest score at Canadian Regional was 150 thanks to our alliance as well (srry can't rmbr who it was) and at Great Lakes I believe it was around 130.

activemx 17-04-2004 15:01

Re: High Scores
 
New high Score at the newton field, Alliance 45, 716 and 1272 of 230 points as they move in the the division finals

Jeff Rodriguez 17-04-2004 15:02

Re: High Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by activemx
New high Score at the newton field, Alliance 45, 716 and 1272 of 230 points as they move in the the division finals

yeah that was alot of points, the doubbler almost didn't fit on the goal.

Bob Steele 17-04-2004 15:13

Re: High Scores
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre
yeah that was alot of points, the doubbler almost didn't fit on the goal.

that's the Archimedes field ... not Newton

Great matches!!!!

Heretic121 18-04-2004 15:25

Re: High Scores
 
i know it wasnt an offical match =P but 121 w/ 71 in the practice matches scored 250 & 240 w/ no assist from the volenteers (giving us small balls that is)... to bad we couldnt have alligned w/ them in a qualificatoin match or for finals =/

R2K2D2 19-04-2004 16:07

Re: High Scores
 
In the Semifinals we scored 210 Points with our alliance team in Curie.

Drawman 19-04-2004 22:42

Re: High Scores
 
Here is a link, to all who have not seen it, to the highest scoring match. Enjoy!

http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2.../arc_sf2m3.wmv

:p

Reidonnink 24-03-2015 09:23

Re: High Scores
 
My alliance top score was 180 at Perdue regionals

Lil' Lavery 24-03-2015 09:43

Re: High Scores
 
I think the thread you were looking for is over here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=135265

:rolleyes:


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