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They are all different........most of the shifting ones i've seen have 2 sets of gears and a pneumatic slides an input gear into one gear and out of the other, one that we built a while ago based on Technokats had dogs which catch on to the gears and engage them...the gears are on bearings so they don't do anything without a dog...
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Sam, I know that some teams shift the drill transmission with servos, and to the best of my knowledge, these cannot be shifted on the fly.
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Very Nice, Very simple. The best part is definaly making it automatic. It is something new and refreshing so to speak. Very cool that you guys actually took time to calculate the power curves and shift at the right points, props to you guys!
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I really must say that this is an awesome system. Congrats to team 33.
I've thought of automatic transmissions for a couple seasons now, and I never thought of monitoring output RPM. In my theoretical designs for an automatic transmission, I would have monitored current to the motor, and shift based on that information. At different gear ratios, the stall current of the motor is constant, and if you set upper and lower thresholds, you can shift up or down, depending completely on whether you need less or more pushing power, respectively. I'm sure it's more complicated than I'm making it sound, but as I said, I'm stuck in the realm of theory, here. Just my take on the theory of an automatic transmission. With all of the talk of constructive vs. destructive criticism that went on recently, I want to say that I'm very impressed by this system. Again, many congratulations to 33. |
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Just Remember to Use Hard Metal!!!!
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Hardened Steel is what he means. We ground down our high gear on one gearbox in Detroit.
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well our team, 1024, design a CVT VST (continious velocity, torque, variable speed transmission). it uses bevel gears and three planetary gear systems. then we ran into the problem: it was gonna weigh around 30 lbs!!! so i was told to design a casing to replace the alumnium box it was going in (around half the weighht). well we ran out of time, but i did get a nifty looking case made from a FDM prototyping machine. Hopefully (crosses fingers) we will have it done at IRI. we had two allision transmission engineers helping us design, so hopefully we can have something to show for my 10+ straight weeks of doing CAD for this. and yes i did start in the offseason..and yes it is still not done :(
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I was wondering if I could get some peoples opinion over weather a variable speed/torque transmission is a big advantage, or a lot of work for nothing. Our team has a CIM/Drill motor combo for our drivetrain, with no special shifting gearbox, and we seem to have pleanty of speed and torque. :)
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rforystek:
That might be a debate for a different thread. To answer your question, though this thread from last summer contained some good debate on that topic (4 motor vs. shifters). The fourth page of replies in particular is well worth a look. http://chiefdelphi.com/forums/showth...g+motor+debate |
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team 151's drive this year was awesome as well... they designed the system with simplicity in mind, as well as sleek and compactness as well..
a far shot, but their tranny are smaller than the aluminum tubing they made a new gearbox for the drills using the previous planetary gears, and made a new housing...it was gorgeous...they also implemented the pneumatic shifting, and ran the pneumatic shifter inside the drive shafts to save space...tthis thing was gorgeous... :ahh: |
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If any one wants the name of this person who is against Gracious Professionalism and against thanking other teams, PM me. |
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