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I'll field those questions.
A) Lol, Aidan must have been copying from the Referee Guide - they have pinning listed twice (Assume it's a typo).
B) Yes - Starting Envelope is the 30"X36"X60" spot straddling the line against the diamond plating where your robot should be before the match begins.
C)The ball corral actually has a 1" aluminum "lip" at the bottom which clearly defines the plane. If you go over the lip, then you have crossed the plane.

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^^^^ Yeah - what he said.

:)

Aidan

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I was just wondering if it is in question the a robot is shooting a projectile of some sort more than ten fet per second how would you check to make sure that they are not. I saw a few teams with like fishing rods or something flexable like that fling it towards the bar. It was obvious that they were not launching it over ten feet per second. It made me wonder though how they would check that.

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Videotape and freeze frame with single frame advance makes an effective speedometer for things like that.

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If I'm not mistaken, I believe there was an update, as well as already been incorporated into the Game Rules (G20) that a robot that goaltends or de-scores small balls will be assessed a 10pt penalty. In the "marked-up version" of the Rules, it strikes-through the part about adding the point to the opposing team.
Can you confirm my understanding of that?

I also assume that if a small ball were de-scored from team A, that team B would get the 10pt penalty, and team A would still get their original 5pts for that ball.
Sorry, I know this isn't the original intent of thread, but wanted to bring up the point and have it verified.....

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If you goaltend, as in using the robot to block or aid a ball into the goal, your alliance will be fined 10pts (blue/green or red/green flag). The first version said that for goaltending that the opposite alliance of the robot goaltending will given twice the ball's point value. That was striked out and replaced with the first sentence I posted.

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Crossing the plane was the biggest one we saw. We got nailed once and it cost us the match. However, in one match our robot was on its back and our partner had forgotten to take out their battery so they couldn't run, but we still managed to win the match because our human player rocks and the other two teams got two penalties.

It was actually a bit discouraging that so many matches were being decided by penalties.

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The only penalties I saw were offsides (35 or 40 points a piece)

our alliance partners kept on crossing over

It happened twice to us, the first time it happened we won anyway
:D
however two matches later it happened a second time we were ahead by 39 points and we got a 40 point penalty and we lost by 1 point. :mad:

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Hey! Check the date. You are two years ex-post-facto.

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Im gonna start a new thread for this year

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Well - OK, if you must. But a word of caution to any and all who value their reputation, we get to use 47 reps/day.