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BoyWithCape195 20-03-2004 18:02

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
I know you're pretty heartbroken right now but hopefully you can learn from this and be stronger for it. Do you have any other competitions comming up?

Sadly that was our last competition. But i have found out what happened, and i think it is a slight flaw with FIRST. We were seated in the top 8 all during Qualification matches. The problem was, our last match (the 2nd to last one) was lost due to the other team not hanging. The score was 100 to 115. This shot us down to posistion # 12. The only problem was every team already had made the decision on who they would choose, still thinking we were in the top eight. This was very frustrating for our team after doing very well in NJ finishing 3rd, and being in the 1, 2 or 3 seeded spot, and not getting picked. Has what happened to us ever happened to any other teams? What do you think about what happend?

Jones571 20-03-2004 20:05

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
can people post/link/email me any pics or movies from the regional

Sscamatt 20-03-2004 20:06

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
I posted the some videos of the people hypnotised at the UTC Rregional...also the final matches are there. Watch your teamates make fools of themselves! :)

http://www.team195.com/video/video.html

(im still uploading the movies of the hypnotist..so wait till around 8:45 and they will be done)

Mike M. 20-03-2004 20:26

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geo
WOW 200 points!!!!!!!! by team 126,773,1100

ya actually that could have been 210 had there not been a ten point penalty on our alliance. i'm not sure who it was on or what for but there was a ten point penalty in that match.

Gabriel 20-03-2004 20:39

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
To 195:

I've been on three different teams and for some reason I've always ended up doing the politics. Quite frankly, I hate it. The only thing worse than going up to a team that you like and respect and begging to get picked is not picking a team that you do like and respect. The whole thing can get ugly and personal. Unfortunately there's a juxtaposition in FIRST between "gracious professionalism" and winning. Usually its an easy decision, and FIRST does a great job rewarding and encouraging teams to be gracious professionals, but sometimes there is pressure to win. ESPECIALLY during the pre-finals politics a lot of teams do some pretty humiliating things, lie, betray friends, you know what I'm talking about. Its not fair, but when it comes time to jostle into position for the finals the goal becomes winning - there's no incentive for it not to be - and people start to "play strategically." My point is that the people in charge of politics aren't bad people, they just seem to have a different goal than everyone else - to win and thats because of how the competition is set up. It hurts to have to pack up at 1:00, but you just have to learn and move on. Hey, at least you guys get to play at more than one regional! I'm hardly a model of a zen FIRST guru, I was fuming at another team this morning and I regret it, but the more I do FIRST the more I realize that you can't be cynical about it, you have to buy into the FIRST mission and concentrate on the important stuff and that isn't winning and it isn't other teams. At least thats the way to avoid an ulcer.

For what its worth, you guys epitomized gracious professionalism and you fought incredibly hard. That last match against 181 and 782 was really exciting.

dez250 20-03-2004 20:51

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
Sadly that was our last competition. But i have found out what happened, and i think it is a slight flaw with FIRST. We were seated in the top 8 all during Qualification matches. The problem was, our last match (the 2nd to last one) was lost due to the other team not hanging. The score was 100 to 115. This shot us down to posistion # 12. The only problem was every team already had made the decision on who they would choose, still thinking we were in the top eight. This was very frustrating for our team after doing very well in NJ finishing 3rd, and being in the 1, 2 or 3 seeded spot, and not getting picked. Has what happened to us ever happened to any other teams? What do you think about what happend?

Please do NOT make excuses for why you did not get picked. The regional is over and what happened did happen and you cant change it now. Our team droped from rank 3 to 12 due to loosing our 2nd to last match. We still worked as hard as we could to get to rank 9 and during selections move to the 8th seed spot. This should be a learning experience as to what to do now, and complaining on here will give a bad rep for your team. Also not many teams have selected who they would pick over an hour from selections. I know that many teams thoughts change during the last few matches.

PS~ Be happy for the AWARD that your team WON!

BoyWithCape195 20-03-2004 21:13

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dez250
Please do NOT make excuses for why you did not get picked. The regional is over and what happened did happen and you cant change it now. Our team droped from rank 3 to 12 due to loosing our 2nd to last match. We still worked as hard as we could to get to rank 9 and during selections move to the 8th seed spot. This should be a learning experience as to what to do now, and complaining on here will give a bad rep for your team. Also not many teams have selected who they would pick over an hour from selections. I know that many teams thoughts change during the last few matches.

PS~ Be happy for the AWARD that your team WON!


We were VERY happy with the award we won. And just as a clarification, it is not an excuse. It is was truly happened, and many other teams agree. I dont want to start an argument, this is just a clarification to you point. And another thing, you lost your second to last match, but then won one, so you moved back up closer. Not being rude but you probobly would have been in the same posistion as we were if you had not been moved to a picking spot. (assuming from many past experiences.) Many teams did not understand what happened to us, until they realized our predicament

Ericente 20-03-2004 21:46

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sscamatt
I posted the some videos of the people hypnotised at the UTC Rregional...also the final matches are there. Watch your teamates make fools of themselves! :)

http://www.team195.com/video/video.html

(im still uploading the movies of the hypnotist..so wait till around 8:45 and they will be done)

Thanks soooo much! I just downloaded the Male Stripper video, and it's got the guy from my team rubbing his nipples. :yikes: I haven't seen my team's video of the hypnosis yet.

stevek 20-03-2004 22:48

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Anyone have webcast feedback? We finally got the ducks lined up (partly) to get this webcasted and just want to improve it for the future. Any feedback would be a great help. Just send me a Private Message here on C.D.

Thanks

kid robusto 20-03-2004 22:50

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Great Event,but it cant be changed now, so anyone else on team 195, who keeps whinning about this shall be dicplined with a large pnumatic cylinder.

JEV930 20-03-2004 23:40

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre
230 & 173 hanging with a ball stuck between them suspended by the robots. It was a great photo op, and I'm sure the picture will get here soon.

The engineers on 230 would really like to get a copy of the picture of us hanging with 173. They would like to put it as the background on their computers. If you have a picture of it please post it on delphi. We would really appreciate it. Thanks!

Elgin Clock 21-03-2004 00:29

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
^ That was a cool photo op. Good luck in finding the photo. Post it on CD when you get it!!


As for my post:

Attention all UTC Regional Attendees:
I have started a thread to analyze and critique the UTC Regional event.
No match results, but ideas for improvement and what not.

It is located here

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=26960

Please fill it out to give the planning commitee a head start on planning UTC 2005!!

Joel J 21-03-2004 00:38

Re: UTC Regional Updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sscamatt
Awards for Saturday:

(being updated as they are announced)

Regional Winner 1: 571

Regional Winner 2: 716

Regional Winner 3: 230

Regional Finalist 1: 126

Regional Finalist 2: 173

Regional Finalist 3: 1100

*EDIT: well that didnt work...they cut the net connection as soon as the awards started...sorry guys.

This rounds out my weekend.. awesome!

Solace 21-03-2004 07:33

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see joel? wise man say, the student has finally become the teacher :D

CmptrGk 21-03-2004 07:58

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hey thanks for putting on those videos of UTC 195.


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