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Elgin Clock 25-03-2004 03:11

Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
No, this is not my auction. I just found this while surfing E-bay for FIRST memorabilia. And trust me, I have found some cool stuff over the couple years since I started in FIRST.
There were championship pins from epcot (which I got 2 from ebay from 2001 since I missed out on buying one when I was there)
There was a Lego League 2003 Playing Field on E-bay a few months ago.

And now, I give you A Championship event 2003 Houston Texas T-Shirt.

I figure I would post the shirt auction here, for hopes of "keeping it in the FIRST family".

Thus I give you:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2899386231&category=28 022

Greg Needel 25-03-2004 03:38

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! S
 
i don;t know if i would call that vintage....

Andrew Rudolph 25-03-2004 12:40

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! S
 
I rember one time going to the local thrift store in miami and finding one of our old shirts, i was like awww why would anyone do that, then i continued down the rack rembering i had like 5 of thoes shirts.

Wetzel 25-03-2004 13:15

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
You can find some of the most interesting shirts at thrift stores...


Wetzel

Amanda Morrison 25-03-2004 13:21

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
I like that the description says 'nerd emo vintage' at the top. Emo? That has um... NOTHING to do with robotics.

Crying because I didn't get to go to Houston,
AM

ahecht 25-03-2004 13:42

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Hmm, I wonder if my 1997 shirts from the garage sale are worth anything.

Jon K. 25-03-2004 14:57

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
I find it funny that they are trying to get 6 bucks for it, I got one for free.

Team311 25-03-2004 18:56

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! S
 
i found this on ebay 5 minutes ago
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=29 99
its a FIRST Referee Shirt

Wetzel 25-03-2004 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Team311
i found this on ebay 5 minutes ago
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=29 99
its a FIRST Referee Shirt

Thats funny, because FIRST wants them back to goto the next regional.

Oh, wait. I guess it isn't.


Wetzel

Tim_Wochomurka 26-03-2004 01:01

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
So wait... I can make money off of my old FIRST stuff? Wow... that means I could make a quick $60 easily off of all my old shirts! Imagine what a slightly used (heheh) robot would go for... hmmm....

Ryan Albright 26-03-2004 10:19

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
i am winning that ref shirt!

Jessica Boucher 26-03-2004 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison
I like that the description says 'nerd emo vintage' at the top. Emo? That has um... NOTHING to do with robotics.

It's so that the search engines can pick it up. I'm also part of a community called "Tshirt Surgery", that has people that will take really random shirts (aka the 03 Nats shirt is considered "really random") and turn them into other shirts, bags, and other things. Words like "nerd emo vintage" are the ones that they search ebay on to get their stuff to alter.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/t_shirt_surgery/ is the link....a lot of their stuff is pretty impressive.

Gabriel 26-03-2004 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim_Wochomurka
So wait... I can make money off of my old FIRST stuff? Wow... that means I could make a quick $60 easily off of all my old shirts! Imagine what a slightly used (heheh) robot would go for... hmmm....

Hey Tim!

If you're talking about Watzilla - $347.26, but maybe more if we called it "emo" I checked.

~Gabe

...jk

Francis-134 27-03-2004 21:51

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I have been telling my team for the past year that a good fundraiser would be ebay and now look, someone has beat us too it.

:D

Gabriel 27-03-2004 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis-134
I have been telling my team for the past year that a good fundraiser would be ebay and now look, someone has beat us too it.

:D

I don't know whether its legal or not but I'm giving some serious thought to putting all the Microsoft [expletive] the team got on eBay. We're never going to use it so we might as well raise some money from it.

Madison 27-03-2004 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel
I don't know whether its legal or not but I'm giving some serious thought to putting all the Microsoft [expletive] the team got on eBay. We're never going to use it so we might as well raise some money from it.

It was a gift. Respect that and keep it.

Ryan Albright 27-03-2004 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Krass
It was a gift. Respect that and keep it.

ya totally agree if you start selling stuff that you are given they will stop givening

Gabriel 28-03-2004 01:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Krass
It was a gift. Respect that and keep it.

I believe that unused technology is useless technology. Yes, this was a gift, but we don't really have a use for it. If Microsoft's goal here was to help teams out rather than promote their products than I doubt they would mind if we turned something we didn't need into something we need desperately, namely cash.

Ryan Albright 28-03-2004 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel
I believe that unused technology is useless technology. Yes, this was a gift, but we don't really have a use for it. If Microsoft's goal here was to help teams out rather than promote their products than I doubt they would mind if we turned something we didn't need into something we need desperately, namely cash.

ehh wouldnt be to sure about that. Microsoft gave the product to the team. If the team turned around to resell it then microsoft is losing money, even if its from somethign they donated. Because, the cash you are getting is the cash that they are losing so if you look at it they would kinda be losing double because they donated the product to the team which they got no money in return then they are losing a customer because you sold there product

I wouldnt be surprised if somewhere on the box said not for re-sale

Aignam 28-03-2004 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan_team710
I wouldnt be surprised if somewhere on the box said not for re-sale

Lots of things sold on eBay say "Not for resale."

Bduggan04 28-03-2004 11:24

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Selling the software would violate gracious professionalism and would be largely illegal. I know that the autodesk software is all not for resale, and that if you make any profit from it, you are liable for a lawsuit. The filemaker software is also not for resale and I'm not sure about the Microsoft software, but I would assume it was donated on the terms that it would not be sold. These companies donate hundreds of thousands of dollars in software, and to turn around and slap them in the face like that would be extremely unprofessional and is a huge mistake. If you need money contact companies, start with microsoft.

Ryan Albright 28-03-2004 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aignam
Lots of things sold on eBay say "Not for resale."

Ya i know, and i do buy stuff that says that but still this was Given to FIRST and i wouldnt do it just cause it didnt feel right

Jessica Boucher 28-03-2004 20:21

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! S
 
There's certain things that shouldn't be sold after they're given. The software (and apparently the ref shirt, if they are required to travel on to the next regional) are some examples.

With a lot of fraternities & sororities, there's a huge problem with the selling of our badges on eBay. Badges are the property of the national HQ and the sister is renting it for life. Upon the passing of the sister, the badge should be returned to national HQ or buried with the sister. We are required to tell our families of this regulation, but many sisters forget as time goes by and the families don't know how to discard of the badge properly. Some organizations have a buy-back fund, some orgs press the legality of the issue, some try to contact the family.

As for the tshirts, since there aren't any regulations as to what can happen with them, I have to assume are fair game.

Ryan Albright 28-03-2004 20:56

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i didnt win the ref shirt :(

Gabriel 28-03-2004 21:48

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
Well, I did say it was an idea I was considering, not that I'd actually do it.

However, FWIW, the copies of FrontPage and Office seem to be full retail versions that are resellable, I'll check again but I didn't see a not-for-resale sign anywhere. I'm not entirely sure whether this counts as a lost sale for MS, after all, anybody buying FrontPage on eBay isn't going to be buying it at a retail store anyway. Besides, I'm sure MS has already written off the donations. I don't know how gracious professionalism enters into this - I didn't ask for this software and the team doesn't have a use for it, I've asked and nobody on the team wants or needs it - I think this is one of the areas where "gracious professionalism" breaks down because everyones definition of "gracious" and "professional" are different, but thats an entirely different conversation.

Having said that, this is a silly thing to argue over, it was a dumb idea in a thread about FIRST stuff on eBay.

Jessica Boucher 28-03-2004 23:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel
Having said that, this is a silly thing to argue over, it was a dumb idea in a thread about FIRST stuff on eBay.

Don't think that!!!

Trust me, Ive brought up a lot of stupid stuff over the years. Any one of the old-timers will be happy to list them for you :)

What matters is that you're not discouraged from posting. You brought in a valid point that hadn't been argued about. Nothing wrong with that. Though we may beat things with a dead horse a lot, it doesn't mean we don't appreciate the post.

Elgin Clock 29-03-2004 04:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan_team710
i didnt win the ref shirt :(

Yeah, neither did I, cause I forgot about it and it ended.

I have a funny feeling that I know who won it though. ;)
(Maybe?)

Ryan Albright 29-03-2004 15:43

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i want to know who won it, i led teh bidding for like 2 days (canes12 my ebay account) and then i had to go to work 45 min before it ended and i couldnt check it at the end

Pierson 31-03-2004 01:39

Re: Getting Money & FIRST clothing on eBay
 
<Totally Off the Original topic>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bduggan04
If you need money contact companies, start with microsoft.

Been there, done that, MS doesn't give to organizations like us. Their corporate giving plan is aimed elsewhere. Just like the Bill & Melinda Gates Fdn. and the Paul Allen Fdn. Which is why I go after other local companies who people like those who graduate from a FIRST team: Smart & Skilled.

</Totally Off Topic>

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. It would be really cool to have a FIRST ref shirt!

Elgin Clock 31-03-2004 10:21

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
The Championship event 2003 T-Shirt went for $6.00 and not to me either. No worries though, it was too small for me and I already have one.

Now, off to find more FIRST stuff on EBay! The FIRST merchandise I find the most on Ebay are pins from the championship event when it was at Epcot so may years ago!

I actually won two 2001 pins cause I missed out on them when I was there for my first year in FIRST.

Jessica Boucher 31-03-2004 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
The Championship event 2003 T-Shirt went for $6.00 and not to me either. No worries though, it was too small for me and I already have one.

Remember how I said that tshirts were fair game? ;) That winner would be me. I don't mind paying $6, esp since I missed that season.

And no, I didnt bid/win the ref shirt.

Matt Leese 31-03-2004 10:41

Re: Getting Money & FIRST clothing on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peciv
<Totally Off the Original topic>



Been there, done that, MS doesn't give to organizations like us. Their corporate giving plan is aimed elsewhere. Just like the Bill & Melinda Gates Fdn. and the Paul Allen Fdn. Which is why I go after other local companies who people like those who graduate from a FIRST team: Smart & Skilled.

</Totally Off Topic>

Microsoft donates all the software that the teams get. Microsoft also sponsors a team in the Redmond, WA area (or at least did).

Matt

Jessica Boucher 31-03-2004 10:57

Re: Getting Money & FIRST clothing on eBay
 
I believe Microsoft Research also sponsored the British team (please correct me if im wrong)

Madison 31-03-2004 11:17

Re: Getting Money & FIRST clothing on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Leese
Microsoft donates all the software that the teams get. Microsoft also sponsors a team in the Redmond, WA area (or at least did).

Matt

Team 488 is sponsored by Microsoft.

Also, Jessica is correct as well.

Stu Bloom 31-03-2004 11:25

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Team311
i found this on ebay 5 minutes ago
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=29 99
its a FIRST Referee Shirt

I'm not sure I know why ... but I'm about to blow my stack over this ...
I have been a referee the past two years at IRI, and FIRST was kind enough to provide the shirts for last years event (I asked to purchase my shirt, and was told I could keep it - and I will be keeping it, NOT SELLING IT !). I am also scheduled to referee in Atlanta in a couple of weeks ...

:mad: THIS PISSES ME OFF !! :mad:


I wonder where the seller got this shirt ...
Oh well. America ... Ebay ... free market ... what can you do??







OK ... sorry about that ... I suppose I'll get over it ...

Alex Cormier 31-03-2004 11:38

Re: Getting Money & FIRST clothing on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peciv
<Totally Off the Original topic>



Been there, done that, MS doesn't give to organizations like us. Their corporate giving plan is aimed elsewhere. Just like the Bill & Melinda Gates Fdn. and the Paul Allen Fdn. Which is why I go after other local companies who people like those who graduate from a FIRST team: Smart & Skilled.

</Totally Off Topic>

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. It would be really cool to have a FIRST ref shirt!

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Matt Leese 31-03-2004 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Krass
Team 488 is sponsored by Microsoft.

Also, Jessica is correct as well.

Are they actually sponsored by Microsoft at this point? Originally it was just a bunch of Microsoft employees without any corporate support.

Matt

Greg Needel 31-03-2004 13:35

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you know if i didn;t like it so much i have a judge shirt i could put up for auction...but its not going to happen

Alex Pelan 01-04-2004 21:19

Re: Did you miss out on a Championship event T-Shirt 2003? Fear not, E-Bay has one! Sz. M
 
Conbratulations to slightly_rearranged for winning the auction.


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