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Ali Ahmed 31-03-2004 00:51

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Defense only comes in handy in the finals, but is qualifying, offsense works preety good. Some teams got smart, like 330, and would roll along the bar to defend it. This was very helpful during finals. Thanks 330. But defense is always the best offense.

Bcahn836 31-03-2004 06:35

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Since we can't hang we sitck to our simple game plan the small goal. And we will defend that small goal at all cost. But if both opponets can hang then we use our plow to prevent them from getting on the platform. unless we want them to get on the bar and add 50 pts to our score if we know we have more points and our alliance is on the bar.

Paul Copioli 31-03-2004 12:21

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Here's my one liner:

"Defense wins championships"

Don't be too hard on yourself,Mike Soukup, we tried playing defense against 45 when it came to the big ball in eliminations and they would just "Air Jordan" over us to score. All 3 of our matches against them came down to stopping their big ball cap and we only succeeded one time. Look at QF3 match 2 on SOAP to see the air Jordan.

In this year's game you must do what you need to do (within the rules & GP) to win. Sometimes that is high scoring, sometimes that is defense. It applies for both qualifications and eliminations.

-Paul

Andy Baker 31-03-2004 12:52

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli
Here's my one liner:

"Defense wins championships"

Don't be too hard on yourself,Mike Soukup, we tried playing defense against 45 when it came to the big ball in eliminations and they would just "Air Jordan" over us to score. All 3 of our matches against them came down to stopping their big ball cap and we only succeeded one time. Look at QF3 match 2 on SOAP to see the air Jordan.

In this year's game you must do what you need to do (within the rules & GP) to win. Sometimes that is high scoring, sometimes that is defense. It applies for both qualifications and eliminations.

-Paul

Paul, it was QF3, match 3.

Andy B.

lagoonfreeze 31-03-2004 13:21

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
iI noticed the same thing when my team was on the field they spent all their time trying to block us insted of scoring but if they didnt block us we would just take their points from them so i dont know why they cant come up with a strategy where they do both score and defend

JVN 31-03-2004 13:26

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Baker
You are crazy. This is ridiculus. There is noooo reason to play defense in this year's game. None. Just let those ball scoring teams do what they want.

"... these are not the droids you are looking for."

What?
Who are you, and what have you done with Andy Baker?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9764
"In my experience, it is really fun to play defense really well."

Ahh the irony. The defensive powerhouse becomes the offensive team everyone is gunning for. Score on. ;)

The revenge of TKO!

Collin Fultz 31-03-2004 14:17

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli
In this year's game you must do what you need to do (within the rules & GP) to win. Sometimes that is high scoring, sometimes that is defense. It applies for both qualifications and eliminations.

-Paul

i would have to agree with paul. 234 found out in Chicago that we had the ability to be a defense machine. it was kind of exciting. because of our defense we were the only alliance to beat RUSH (27) in the prelims...as well as a few other notable teams. this hurt us a little I think because of a lack of loser points...but in the end...your ranking points don't mean anything unless you win the match.

rourke 01-04-2004 21:51

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
Based on the Regionals and webcasts I've observed so far this year, I believe that the "underdog" alliances have a better chance of winning if they approach their alliance selections more "defensively" (which is why I started the thread in the first place).

If you are a 4th through 8th place seeded team, don't select a 3rd partner that has demonstrated hanging potential only 50% of the time. Select a partner that can play defense 100% of the time - with the intention of disrupting your opponents' game plan and giving you a better chance of winning the SECOND match of your round! Then, who knows what might happen in the rubber match!

Offense wins the first game of the match. Defense the second. Give it your all in the third! May the best alliance win...

Ryan F. 01-04-2004 22:18

Re: Where's the defense this year?
 
I have a pretty split opinion on this. We were an "underdog team", and I think we, like a lot of the other underdof teams were extemely good at doing a couple of things...just not these all capable super bots. We could knock the ball off in autonomus very well..and hang almost 100%, but in that time inbetween was our oppurtunity to play defence or herd balls. Looking back at some of our videos I think we could have changed our strategy and stayed in the finals by doing defense...but at the same time I wonder if that really would have been possible, because our defense would have consisted of trying to get the other teams not to cap their goals, and they probably could have prevented us from doing that.

So through all this rambeling..I guess the lesson we learned is to really examine what you do best...and stick with that. Don't all of a sudden try to play defense if you started out going for offense. (something we did)


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