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You had to make JVN #1 in the sample didn't you?

It's rigged, HE's paying you under the table!

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I just stumbled on this thread. Is it too late to participate in this thing? Let me know, thanks.

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no problem joel your in

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I also want to join the league!

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I might as well give it a go

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I got him listed at 50.

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I'm in.

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Cut off for registration will be Tuesday night. I think that will give everyone enough time to join in.

Updated list
 

1 KoKo Ed
2 Jones571
3 JVN
4 Mike M.
5 Big Mike
6 Sigmakid108
7 Computheif263
8 HhsJosh
9 Jeremy Roberts
10 Rob Colatutto
11 Matt D
12 Dez250
13 Team311
14 Voltage
15 Aaron Lussier
16 Akuu
17 Guyute
18 Solace
19 Coreyjon
20 Tomman B182
21 Will Hanashiro
22 SarahB
23 Ryan Dognaux
24 *Andy Baker
25 *Andy Grady
26 OneAngryDaisy
27 George1083
28 Lil' Lavery
29 MisterX
30 Ogre
31 Karthik
32 Joe Ross
33 Pin Man
34 Alex Pelan
35 SwaDan
36 gsensel
37 Fireworks 234
38 Ricky Q.
39 Pit Bull 1126
40 ngreen
41 Eric Bareiss
42 BionicAlumni
43 BadKarma
44 Steve Horn
45 KingsvilleKukes
46 David66
47 Brant Bowen
48 Henry_222
49 Ryan_team710
50 rforystek
51 T967
52 Keiko173
53 Joel J.
54 Levin571
55 David Hoff
56 ahecht
57 Jack
58 M. Krass

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count me in too!

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i'm in too

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I'm in too!!! (erin srcrables to first page to see what this is all about)

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Hey what about me?? :( I always seem to be forgotten :( .

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ok so what happends if 2 of your teams actully play together...would you get win counts for both or just 1?

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Turn that frown upside down. I gotcha.:)

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You get two wins. I go with the teams individual won/loss record and the points. When a team is in the elimination rounds your team gets the win and loss for the allince whether the team is on the field or not (strictly a laziness thing).

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guess what my guess is! #39 is going to win this whole thing! don't be so scared :p :p


when are we going to start it?

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I want to wait til FIRST sets up the divisions at the championship.

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sounds good to me, go #39!

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If you want to get a basic idea of how the draft will be handled this is sort of how it will be done.

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Ed is just getting everyone ready for what will happen next week.

Hmmm... is it a conflict of interest if I end up coaching against one of my fantasy draft picks? Hmm... should I pick 229? (nah. ;))
Should I help out my fantasy picks? Some strategy advice for my #3 pick?

So many interesting questions.
This will be fun.


Ed... any thoughts about splitting this into a few different groups?
I think this game would be more fun with LESS people picking. That way, there is more chance of getting the "dark horse" #3 pick.

Maybe we could have 4 FIRST Fantasy leagues, A-D?

John

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wow...that confused me even more :cool:

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Nya-ha! I'm in for sure.

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I don't see a problem with picking your own robot.
I want to try with a 90 to 100 person league this year and we'll see about divsions next year (I'm flying by the seat of my pants. My best bet for survival is to keep everything in front of me in one spot).

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how many so far?

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Kinda curious to see how we are gonna manage to get everyone in one place at one time to do a draft. Any ideas?

-Andy

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1 KoKo Ed
2 Jones571
3 JVN
4 Mike M.
5 Big Mike
6 Sigmakid108
7 Computheif263
8 HhsJosh
9 Jeremy Roberts
10 Rob Colatutto
11 Matt D
12 Dez250
13 Team311
14 Voltage
15 Aaron Lussier
16 Akuu
17 Guyute
18 Solace
19 Coreyjon
20 Tomman B182
21 Will Hanashiro
22 SarahB
23 Ryan Dognaux
24 *Andy Baker
25 *Andy Grady
26 OneAngryDaisy
27 George1083
28 Lil' Lavery
29 MisterX
30 Ogre
31 Karthik
32 Joe Ross
33 Pin Man
34 Alex Pelan
35 SwaDan
36 gsensel
37 Fireworks 234
38 Ricky Q.
39 Pit Bull 1126
40 ngreen
41 Eric Bareiss
42 BionicAlumni
43 BadKarma
44 Steve Horn
45 KingsvilleKukes
46 David66
47 Brant Bowen
48 Henry_222
49 Ryan_team710
50 rforystek
51 T967
52 Keiko173
53 Joel J.
54 Levin571
55 David Hoff
56 ahecht
57 Jack
58 M. Krass
59 AsimC
60 Greg Needel
61 Erin Rapacki
62 Anne Bergeron
63 Crop-Circles

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I say we pretty much have to go with a pre-ordered draft. I don't think we could get 90 people to be all in the same place at the same time. My suggestion is that everyone set up in order all the teams they want to draft after the divisions are announced and either e-mails or pm's them to the people that are running the draft so that no one else sees your list.

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I'm going to have everyone PM me their top 50 choices per round, just in case they are not around. I'm also going to have an assistant or two to take up the slack when I'm at work (no more surfing at work. No computer) or school.
During build season it's not too hard to find people on these pages though.

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sounds great, i say email

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My guess is that we'll also need each person to choose more than 25 teams, probably by now like double or triple that.

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Tigerbolt?
That way it would be live, and wouldn't take so long.

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Count me in on this one. Sounds like an awesome idea!

Eric

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ya count me in too

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WOW this is going fast we are up to 66 of 98 slots they are going quick!! Any one else who has looked at the scoring system any ideas likes/dislikes?

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Im in guys, im sorry i didnt find this sooner ..

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Which would you prefer as teh number one seeding consideration? Win and losses or overall points scored.
I think wins and losses matter most.

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I'm in...and I also consider win/loss ratio most important, because that is more important in the game this year.

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i perfer points....your alliance points not the losing alliance pts. i say pts, b/c what if ur ptr gets tipped or broken and iu do alot n get close tot he other score and try and try u still lose, that will hurt you

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Am I too late? If not I'm in!!!

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definetly wins and losses

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you're in Budda

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If your alliance makes it to the elimination rounds, do you get the wins of your whole alliance, or only the ones that you played in?

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I'd prefer points , where wins and losses are important but hey if you win you get the points if you lose you dont, but it will give teams who lose a few a chance to catch up, just a though.

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POINTS!!!! you dont have to be like the first game this year it is our own fantasy league

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You get the wins and losses for the alliance. I'm too lazy to figure out who played when plus you win and lose with the whole team anyways so it makes sense anyhow.

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Points all the way!:D

Fantasy FIRST has grown fast in less then 24hours we have had 69 people say they want to play! it is great

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the problem with going with points is you get a big advantage if your team gets into the elimination rounds and it's not always the best seeded teams that always get in. In our division last year Children of the Swamp seeded 17 and did not get picked. You penalize allinces (whomever your three teams are) because they did not meet the preferance of seeded teams. There are teams that would get picked no matter what (like 71 Beaty robotics. They'd get picked if they sent a pile of parts out to the field).
At least with wins and losses (with an emphasis on w/l percentage) it's a little more fair. BTW the John V Neun example in the sample is an extream example. I doubt anyone is going to do that well.

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whoa.... 148 posts in 2 days. that is amazing. but if we get funding to go to nats, im so doing this.

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It hasn't even been 20 hours since the first post!!! And why wait to see if you are going? *Need not be in Atlanta to participate!

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this is more than just any regular post, this is like a virus, lol! look at how it has already infected 69 people's minds to join in the game(i'm one of them):D

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your more then welcome to play even if you dont go... the more people to beat the better time i will have :cool:

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sry to say but stay on topic, u all no the topic... me winning! :p :]

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Does anyone know what the chances of regional winners winning the championship are based on past years? Not alliances, but each individual team. This would be an interesting factor in choosing teams.

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im in to join the robot fun and carnage

We're up to 70 now.
 

1 KoKo Ed
2 Jones571
3 JVN
4 Mike M.
5 Big Mike
6 Sigmakid108
7 Computheif263
8 HhsJosh
9 Jeremy Roberts
10 Rob Colatutto
11 Matt D
12 Dez250
13 Team311
14 Voltage
15 Aaron Lussier
16 Akuu
17 Guyute
18 Solace
19 Coreyjon
20 Tomman B182
21 Will Hanashiro
22 SarahB
23 Ryan Dognaux
24 *Andy Baker
25 *Andy Grady
26 OneAngryDaisy
27 George1083
28 Lil' Lavery
29 MisterX
30 Ogre
31 Karthik
32 Joe Ross
33 Pin Man
34 Alex Pelan
35 SwaDan
36 gsensel
37 Fireworks 234
38 Ricky Q.
39 Pit Bull 1126
40 ngreen
41 Eric Bareiss
42 BionicAlumni
43 BadKarma
44 Steve Horn
45 KingsvilleKukes
46 David66
47 Brant Bowen
48 Henry_222
49 Ryan_team710
50 rforystek
51 T967
52 Keiko173
53 Joel J.
54 Levin571
55 David Hoff
56 ahecht
57 Jack
58 M. Krass
59 AsimC
60 Greg Needel
61 Erin Rapacki
62 Anne Bergeron
63 Crop-Circles
64 Eric O
65 Sscamatt
66 Xufer
67 tkwetzel
68 Budda648
69 jagman2882
70 TierraDelDiablo

Re: FANTASY FIRST
 

A few suggestions for the winner...

Everyone who participates would have to give them CD rep

They would get to have a "FANTASY FIRST Champion" logo for their avatar, or a sticker on their bot

They would get to pick the teams they want in the next years (so they can get 254 every year :) )

I cant think of anything else

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Ok here it is all you graphic artist here is a challenge
Give us a Fantasy FIRST logo sooner the better post it as an attachment in this thread.

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Wow, this thread has doubled in size in the past 5 hours. It's spreading!!! :ahh: I can't wait to start, this is gonna be fun.

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Wish I could break into my high school so that I could use PhotoShop for the logo. Anyways, what good would it be to use my own logo since I am gonna win?!

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I like the idea of giving the winner rep. That seems more than fair and free.

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Sez who?
You haven't even picked yet.

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this logo isnt for the winner they can make there own lol. this is for Fantasy FIRST the son to be web site ;) once i find convince maybe a web god like brandon martus to help create this. it will also stop us from eating up all the space on CD. logo's people want to work on and also flash intros woudl also be appreciated

(as in soon to be i mean ready holidays time 2004)

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I'm in if there's still room

/me thinks i should get back to reading CD 12 times a day.

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Welcome you're in!

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You are in.

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This is so awesome...we need to get our own site and everything for fantasy first... ;)

Anyways...I'm all for wins and losses, because that's what strategy is based on, not just pure points. You might have to score extremely high in one game...where the next 35 pts will win it.

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workign on the web site.....all good things take time it will be before the game in 2005

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Would there be a way for the admin to make us a link to a separate page (part of chiefdelphi) where we can hold this on?

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That would strictly be up to Brandon.

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I would much rather see Fantasy FIRST become its own web site brandon has enough on his plate keeping CD rock'n like he does

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I think making a simple site designed on Geocites would be suffice.

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i'll get to it if you would like me to... i like to have fun and make websites...

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geo would be nice for now but i would love to see it grow......lok for something that doesnt have lots of pop-ups they are evil :mad:

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A necessary evil. Do it to it, Alex.

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Okay, I think I understand how this works, but I'm not 100% sure. Can someone explain exactly how this works? I can be a little slow when it comes to thing like this...

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I'm in if there is still room.

LoL.. also.. Also.. kinda curious does this have anything to do with the NFL merger hoax .. cuz there were some "Fantasy FIRST " posts in there

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My good man, you wound me to the quick. I would want nothing to do with that cad Irsay after what he did to the good folks of Baltimore.
BTW you are in. :D

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You pick three robots from the list of teams at the championship in a draft. After the draft you can trade with other members in the league.
You get the win and losses pf each of your robots in a match and the points they accumulate (none of that loser score nonsense). Top won/loss record plus total points (for a tiebreaker) wins.

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Good show. Anyone else got a design?

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Exactly the same thing I've been thinking this whole time.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here you'll learn all about me: my interests and hobbies, the people in my family, my pets, and more. I've even included a list of my favorite links to other sites.

On this home page, I'll introduce myself and talk about my reasons for wanting a web site. I might put a picture of myself on this page...or just a picture that I especially like.

--Wow...I didn't know fantasy first was so personal. :D

Nice site

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i was lazy and started it off of a personal site...

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Sounds great. Count me in!

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when are we going to start this draft?

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DRAFT WILL BE HELD ON THE 8TH time is TBA by Koko ED

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It would be interesting if next year if we broke this down even more. Kinda to incorporate every aspect of FIRST.

Like Include winning awards along with the competition aspect.

Wins losses and ties Sure.

But Getting a team that might win a lot of awards and not a lot games should count for something also.

It'd be like Fantasy baseball, you'd want a bit of both worlds.. pitching and hitting.

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You are in.

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Sounds alot like Ventures.

John V-Neun's Top Picks!
 

JVN's Top Picks!
(and guide for Fantasy FIRST picking)

Okay... so I've been asked to play the role of the professional sports analyst, and post some of my "Top Picks" for the fantasy FIRST league. Since I'm participating in this little game, I'm not going to go so far as to post my list, but I will share some insight into how I'm making my list.

Basically, the first thing to consider is... "What criteria is this being judged on?"
The answer: "Wins and losses" then "Overall points".
So when we all go to make our draft picks, we will want the "best" teams. This doesn't mean "the teams that will win nationals" this means, "the teams that will win the most matches". So based on this, it is important to snag the teams we feel are going to win most.

So how do we go about picking which teams will do best?

Well... this is how I'm doing it:
I'm going to pick (in this order):

1. The kick-butts- Those teams that I have seen (or heard of) kicking butt this season. That is, the ones who have seeded highly, and performed consistently. Obviously, the ones who did so against stronger competition are rated higher on my list. I'm also taking some of the "luck" factor into account. Yes, it's true... some teams rank highly, without playing well. This occurs for a number of reasons. When I make my list I'll try to keep these teams off of it.

2. The prospects - Those teams that I THINK will do well. The ones that haven't performed as strongly as others, but may get their act together in time for nationals. Everyone also needs to take into account that the game has been evolving over the past 5 weeks of competition. This means that teams who kicked-butt week 1, may not be NEARLY as competitive in Atlanta. Maybe they performed poorly, because of the way the game was played, but in Atlanta they will be very powerful. There is a lot of prediction going on here. Pick whoever will do best. (this applies above as well... even if someone kicked butt, I may not think they should be on the top of my list).

3. The darkhorses - Those teams that NO ONE expects to do well, except for me. The ones who could take it all, if they get a little luck. The trick to drafting well (in this, and in the "real" FIRST draft) is to get picks that will perform well, even though no one else expects them to. You need to find that random powerhouse that somehow slipped until the 2nd round, and scoop them up.

4. The statistics - Let's face it... no one has seen everybody. There are enough people participating that I'm likely going to get "stuck" with someone who I've never really heard of. This means that I need some way of evaluating these "last ditch" picks. The ones I don't know anything about. How do I do this without being able to talk to them? (blech)... statistical analysis. So for this, I've made a spreadsheet which contains all the seeding data from ALL the regionals played (I will post this as a whitepaper). From this I've ranked everyone in terms of average points awarded per match (2 for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for a loss). I've combined the data for teams that have played multiple regionals. From this, I can have my final comparison, and maybe pull out something good, from a field I don't know much about.


All in all, this is a pretty cool game.
I can't wait to see how it plays out.
There is a LOT of luck involved, but also a lot of strategy.

Good Luck to all,

John

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This is my try at a logo.

Re: John V-Neun's Top Picks!
 

Thanks John. You're the best. :D

Re: FANTASY FIRST
 

please if you are going to make a logo, remove the sm(selling mark) from firsts logo and use a vetor image of the first logo. if you need one pm me for it but please keep this thread on topic and not do a huge discussion on the first vector.

Re: John V-Neun's Top Picks!
 

JVN you rock!!! this is what we need you are awsome :D

good insight on how to chose your teams

NEXT YEAR i promise all of you fantasy FIRST will have many more options and "game types" once we have a good site set up we will be able to run our own games and login etc......

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website 30% done
has the members that have said yes sor far, John's pick info, logo....what else guys??

AND please, keep the posting on track... we are using a lot of these forums on this... if a post is useless please delete it.. thanks

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Once the league roster is full I can have the thread locked. Or perhaps doing it in Chit Chat instead.

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leave it open for now lock it after the draft then we shall do it in chit chat that sounds good to me....

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That's the plan.

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i don't know if you guys are still reading this poll, or if i am too late or whatnot, but i would love to be in as well.