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Andy Grady 20-04-2004 13:58

Left out in the cold...
 
Alliance selections turned out to be quite interesting in all of the divisions. There were a few excelent teams which somehow amazingly slipped through the draft and were forced to watch. Here are a couple of them...

Team 930: Excelent excelent hanger. I believe they won a regional with the Technokats. We had an excelent round with them as our partner against WPI in the Qualifiers. Absolutely stunned these guys didn't go.

Team 173: I visited the 173 pit on many occasions, found that they had a little bad luck in the Qualifiers. But, I scratch my head...how in gods green earth did these guys not make someone's FIRST PICK let lone not make it into elimination rounds at all!?! Amazing hanger, great small ball pickup, excelent strategy and driving...what more could you ask for? Another shocker.

Team 229: Clarkson = defensive powerhouse. Great strategy and a strong drive train make them a very strong partner to have...lets not forget, they won a regional! Defense wins championships people (see those little green Martians and Beatty) why didn't teams like this one go?

It seems that alot of the teams were going for the offesive end of the spectrum when it came to drafting. Its no wonder Beatty's alliance won...they had a great defensive alliance and they used the most textbook strategy in the game.

What are some teams that you saw that slipped through the cracks?

Good Job to all,
-Andy Grady

Ryan Dognaux 20-04-2004 14:02

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Team 25 didn't get drafted in Newton, and I was shocked. :ahh: They were a great hanger :]

BandChick 20-04-2004 14:05

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I was shocked when 25 and 303 weren't picked. 303 especially as they won a regional and were finalists in annapolis. 25 was a great hanging machine and their human player was almost perfect (i think in 3 competitions i saw him miss 2 shots), and they played good defense. the problem was, the matches they lost were close high scoring matches and because of the change in qualifying points for ranking were almost obsolete in being picked. but hey, happens.

also 303 was a great ball herder and a successful capper more than 95% of the time. they're human player was good, but mostly they were a team with good strategy. a lot of the alliances picked this year were surprising and not at all what i had expected.

AmyPrib 20-04-2004 14:15

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Yes, I agree 930, but also 269, neither got picked.
Maybe a bit partial since this alliance won the MWR, but both teams were awesome at what they do. 930 with the hanging and defense up there, while 269 hangs from tim-buk-tu but also herds balls pretty well. I heard they had some bad luck early on in the qual rounds too. Both great teams to work with!

Chris Hibner 20-04-2004 14:43

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I'm really surprised that 5 didn't get picked. Heck, they won TWO REGIONALS, and did a fine job qualifying in those regionals as well (i.e. they didn't just tag along on a great team's coattails). They were fast, drove well, could play defense, and hung quickly from the floor.

JVN 20-04-2004 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
Team 229: Clarkson = defensive powerhouse. Great strategy and a strong drive train make them a very strong partner to have...lets not forget, they won a regional! Defense wins championships people (see those little green Martians and Beatty) why didn't teams like this one go?

We didn't go, because we were plagued by inconsistency.
I told everyone when we were going down, "We just need a little luck, and we'll do fine." We got TONS of luck, but unfortunately it was all bad.

We had a blast, had a few really fun matches, got the chance to hang out with friends new and old. It was a GREAT competition.

We knew if someone put some faith in us, and drafted us we could pull our weight and make something happen, but weren't surprised when we didn't make the cut.

But, this year was definitely a learning experience. We came out a little smarter, and a little stronger than before. We had some fun, and excited some kids (who are just DYING for some more Redemption ;))

Look for 229 in 2005, we'll be back. :D



I'm surprised 234 didn't go.
They were in the same boat we were, but had one HELL of a machine. I expected them to complete some great Newton Alliance.

Both times 234, and 229 have been next to each other in the pits, we've both caught some seriously bad luck. CB, we love you baby, but next year for the good of both teams we should probably consider splitting up! ;)

John

Fireworks 234 20-04-2004 15:03

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I really can't believe that 303 wasnt drafted that amazed me, because they were a killer team. They could handle the small balls and the doubler so easily.:ahh:



Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN
I told everyone when we were going down, "We just need a little luck, and we'll do fine." We got TONS of luck, but unfortunately it was all bad.

Ya i'd definitely have to agree with you on that. We did everything we wanted to do at Nat's but it just wasnt working out for us.:)

Oh well...There's always next year.:)

MOEmaniac 20-04-2004 15:03

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I too was shocked when I found out that teams 25 and 303 weren't picked for an alliance. Both teams in my opinion should have been first picks. 303 is an excellent small and large ball handler and their human player was great. 25 was one of the fastest bots out there and they were an excellent hanger. They both should have been first picks in my opinion :ahh: .

activemx 20-04-2004 15:20

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thats why i think national compeitition is alot of luck:)

Joe Ross 20-04-2004 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hibner
I'm really surprised that 5 didn't get picked. Heck, they won TWO REGIONALS, and did a fine job qualifying in those regionals as well (i.e. they didn't just tag along on a great team's coattails). They were fast, drove well, could play defense, and hung quickly from the floor.

I only saw a few matches in Galileo, and only one of team 5's. However, they were having a lot of problems in that match. I don't know how they did in the rest of their matches, but looking at their record, I can guess.

Chris Hibner 20-04-2004 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross
I only saw a few matches in Galileo, and only one of team 5's. However, they were having a lot of problems in that match. I don't know how they did in the rest of their matches, but looking at their record, I can guess.

I guess that answers that question. I wonder what happened, considering their performance in the two regionals. Hmmm....

Ken Patton 20-04-2004 16:49

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I definitely think 930 was the best team that didn't get picked. Their ability to hang and take up some real estate on the bar would have been huge in the eliminations. Hard to believe that the pickers in that division missed them.

Not to mention the fact that they have proven themselves over time. Last year they were in the finalist alliance at MMR and this year they were in the Champion alliance.

I expect we'll see more of Shawn and the Masters from Mukawisconsin.

Ken

Alex Pelan 20-04-2004 16:54

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I was surprised RAGE wasn't picked as well. After their match with us, in which they did extremely well, I was surprised to see that they qualified so low. The had an awesome machine tho. Also, 5, considering how they won two regionals. I had expected them to be a major powerhouse in our division.

David Bridge 20-04-2004 17:08

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I found that team 5 hung very very quickly in the two matches I saw (one of them they were allied with us) however I think that their downfall may have been bad luck. They always seemed to hang very early in the match and allowed their partner to play the defense and score the extra points. For a team with that good of a drive system I would have liked to see them play a little more defense of their own and not put their fate in the hands of bad partners. I felt really bad for them because they hang very well, however they told me that their partners were inconsistent and never managed to do what they claimed they would. They seemed amazed in our last qualifying match when we actually did exactly what we said we would and helped them win... I hope you guys have better luck next year... great hanging robot

Randy_VanW. 20-04-2004 17:16

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Lets see... Nats... where to start. I like the compitition overall a little disapointing that we didnt get pick but heck we were like 47th (Talk about bad luck... Im still surpirsed we didn't win with that 145 point match... let alone the 90) I guess thats the luck of the draw though. Watching HOT BOT get ripped of the bar in Newton was very entertaining cause I didnt think it was possible. I to was surpised that 303 wasnt picked I mean just look at there record (well we knocked out the first alliance at GLR.. I guess records dont matter to much). None the less great last Offical compitition *sniff* but hey its been a great 3 years... I'm just hoping to end up back at Nats as a mentor one of these years... cause FIRST robotics is 1337 j00!


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