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Andy Grady 27-04-2004 16:48

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Joke time!



Q: What do you get when you cross the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and a Ford Pinto?



A: A midwestern FIRST robot!



HAHAHAHAHA...oh man, i crack myself up. ;)


Waiting for tomatoes to be thrown,
Andy Grady

JVN 27-04-2004 17:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
HAHAHAHAHA...oh man, i crack myself up. ;)

If I laughed, does that make me a tremendous engineering nerd?
I think, yes it does. ;)

Elyse Holguin 27-04-2004 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
Yeah...but this time we REALLY REALLY mean it! Plus, after 4 National Championships, ya gotta figure the midwest is ready to revolt against its own.

-Andy Grady

Don't look only at us, I recall a Technokat Championship win in there. (Not to mention the Illinois and Michigan wins as well.) We're just trying to keep things in a nice centralized location. I kind of like Indiana as the ringleader.

Elyse Holguin 27-04-2004 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN
If I laughed, does that make me a tremendous engineering nerd?
I think, yes it does. ;)

You didn't need to laugh to make yourself a tremendous engineering nerd. You were already. :D

Ben Lauer 27-04-2004 21:50

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Ok, I love Michigan, and Illinois is ok, but they have to be nice.

But really, We don't have mountains to climb or fun roads to drive on. The most elevation change we have is the bridges over interstates!!!! Maybe thats why our robots are better, nothing else to do!!!!

Andy Grady 27-04-2004 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elyse Holguin
Don't look only at us, I recall a Technokat Championship win in there. (Not to mention the Illinois and Michigan wins as well.) We're just trying to keep things in a nice centralized location. I kind of like Indiana as the ringleader.

Sorry Elyse...4 championships = biiiiig target on your back!!!

Look at it this way though, in all due seriousness...that is one huge sign of respect for such a strong team. Be proud of your roots...they are special.

-Andy Grady

P.S. I did think of one good thing that came out of Indiana...Larry Bird...greatest basketball player of all time.

Ryan Dognaux 28-04-2004 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross
What round of the finals did you lose in again? How'd you do the year before at AZ?

- Lost in the Semi's

- 6th seed at AZ previous year, I believe, but drafted by the 1st.

Does anyone hear that? I think it's the sound of Midwest teams pwning ;)

Joe Ross 28-04-2004 00:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux
- Lost in the Semi's

- 6th seed at AZ previous year, I believe, but drafted by the 1st.

Does anyone hear that? I think it's the sound of Midwest teams pwning ;)

actually, 7th, but I won't fault you for that. I will fault you for omitting that you lost in the quarterfinals. In fact, both midwestern teams lost in the quarters.

Lets summarize this. #1 seed and lost in the semis this year. Last year #7 seed, chosen 1st, lost in quarterfinals. Didn't win any technical awards either year. Do you know what I call a team that does well in the seeding rounds, but loses early in the finals (and doesn't have any technical awards)? LUCKY.

Meanwhile, team 980 seeded 4th and 2nd, and got to the semifinals each time. 330 seeded lower, but was finalist and won.

So, you did well, but certainly didn't "pwn" anyone.

Ryan Dognaux 28-04-2004 08:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross
actually, 7th, but I won't fault you for that. I will fault you for omitting that you lost in the quarterfinals. In fact, both midwestern teams lost in the quarters.

Lets summarize this. #1 seed and lost in the semis this year. Last year #7 seed, chosen 1st, lost in quarterfinals. Didn't win any technical awards either year. Do you know what I call a team that does well in the seeding rounds, but loses early in the finals (and doesn't have any technical awards)? LUCKY.

Meanwhile, team 980 seeded 4th and 2nd, and got to the semifinals each time. 330 seeded lower, but was finalist and won.

So, you did well, but certainly didn't "pwn" anyone.

Pardon my memory, for it does not serve me well.

The Semifinals loss came this year at Arizona, the quarter finals loss came last year at Arizona.

You know what I call every one of your alliance partners breaking (including ourselves) at some point during the final rounds? UNLUCKY

While we didn't win any technical awards, don't the 2 Chairmans Awards from AZ and Midwest count as something? :]

Quote:

and doesn't have any technical awards
I hope you don't mean ever, because in 01' we took the Delphi's Driving Tomorrow's Technology Award with our innovative back-pack arm.

I still hear that sound of Midwest teams dominating :)

Jessica Boucher 28-04-2004 09:27

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Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux
I hope you don't mean ever, because in 01' we took the Delphi's Driving Tomorrow's Technology Award with our innovative back-pack arm.

Bah..... an '01 tech award doesn't mean much anymore. It's great that you won it, but who knows if it was because of people on your team that have since graduated/left......only by stringing technical awards from year after year or every other year shows a consistent lack of "being lucky".

Plus, we're not playing the 01 game, now are we? (thank goodness!!) ;)

Matt Leese 28-04-2004 11:06

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Perhaps you should take a look at the Cleveland Regional (which is in the midwest) from this past year. I seem to remember that two of the three winning teams were from the east (340 and 1286; both of Rochester, NY). So it's a bit interesting when two eastern teams head west and win...

Matt

Mike Soukup 28-04-2004 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
Waiting for tomatoes to be thrown

As much as I'd like to oblige, I can't bring myself to do it. Your joke was one of the funniest things I've read here in quite while; I laughed out loud. Mostly because it's true. In the Widwest (if you define the Midwest as Schaumburg, IL) we throw so many functions on a robot that in order to make the weight we build 'em so they bend a bit. Now that you mention it, our big arm did sway much like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Were we the inspiration for your joke?

I wish I had an equally funny come-back, but I don't right now. Hopefully I'll get some inspiration later.

In the light of some recent posts, I'd like to remind everyone of an earlier quote from Andy. Try to keep it fun & not personal. We're just trying to make jokes here, not have serious debates about why a team won/lost a competition.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
By the way, you can keep talking trash all ya want...I think its fun, and it adds to the rivalry...just as long as it stays fun and there are no personal attacks or anything like that.


D.J. Fluck 28-04-2004 11:43

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The Northeastern Teams are like the Boston Red Sox, always pretty talented, but choke when it's crunch time :D

The Midwest domination factor started around 1997, which was also the year of the first Midwest Regional...hrm, maybe FIRST's creation of a regional not on the east coast is what started your curse ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
By the way, you can keep talking trash all ya want...I think its fun, and it adds to the rivalry...just as long as it stays fun and there are no personal attacks or anything like that.


Andy Grady 28-04-2004 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
The Northeastern Teams are like the Boston Red Sox, always pretty talented, but choke when it's crunch time :D

The Midwest domination factor started around 1997, which was also the year of the first Midwest Regional...hrm, maybe FIRST's creation of a regional not on the east coast is what started your curse ;)

OUCH! That was low man...bringing up my beloved Red Sox like that. However, as we say here in New England...there is no curse...next year will be the year!

-Andy Grady

p.s. Hey, couldn't you say the same thing about the Cubbies? I hear Steve Bartman is looking to join up with the Technokitties! ;)

D.J. Fluck 28-04-2004 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
p.s. Hey, couldn't you say the same thing about the Cubbies? I hear Steve Bartman is looking to join up with the Technokitties! ;)


There is an unofficial restraining order on Mr. Bartman. If he comes within 3 states of any midwestern state, he will be shot ;)

kcy88 28-04-2004 12:03

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In my opinion, the Michigan region and the west have more advanced animations and better looking. THe majority of the aniamtions in the North East are decent, but the midwest and west just dominate this area of robotics....

Alan Anderson 28-04-2004 12:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Lauer
But really, We don't have mountains to climb or fun roads to drive on. The most elevation change we have is the bridges over interstates!!!!

I think the Tyrannical Mechanicals (1272) would have something relevant to say about that, Ben. Look a bit further south than Marion County. Only two thirds of Indiana was ironed flat by the glaciers; the wrinkles all got pushed down to the bottom end.

Indiana farmland might be flatter than a FIRST field, but there's more than corn in Indiana.

Steve W 28-04-2004 12:10

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Could that be because all they have to do in the Midwest is to sleep and watch paint dry. While sleeping I guess that annimators have more "Inspiration " time than the rest of us. :p

Just so I know, Where does the line between East, Midwest and West lie?

Jessica Boucher 28-04-2004 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve W
Just so I know, Where does the line between East, Midwest and West lie?

I personally use the Appalacians and the Rockies as my dividers.

Of course, I haven't traveled further west than the Appalacians, so my sense of the country is skewed....but I'll be honest, noone will give the same answer as to where the regions lie...because we're all skewed ;)

Chris Fultz 28-04-2004 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve W
Could that be because all they have to do in the Midwest is to sleep and watch paint dry.

We also watch the grass grow on really sunny days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve W
Just so I know, Where does the line between East, Midwest and West lie?

Indiana and Michigan are the mid-west, sort of like the center of the country, the epicenter of commerce, technology and all things great in this country.

PS - We would have called ourselves the "mideast", but that name was already taken.

Steve W 28-04-2004 13:07

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Good news for me is that I must be in the East. Otherwise I would have looked pretty bad slamming myself. Therefore I stand on my statements. Let the chaos continue (I think I stole that from somewhere, Jon?). :cool:

Fireworks 234 28-04-2004 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Fultz
Indiana and Michigan are the mid-west, sort of like the center of the country, the epicenter of commerce, technology and all things great in this country.

Although I'm not going to argue with that, you can't forget our buddies in Illinois and Ohio.:yikes:

Elyse Holguin 28-04-2004 20:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Lauer
Ok, I love Michigan, and Illinois is ok, but they have to be nice.

But really, We don't have mountains to climb or fun roads to drive on. The most elevation change we have is the bridges over interstates!!!! Maybe thats why our robots are better, nothing else to do!!!!

Bloomington does have some nasty hills. NOT fun driving around there with ice at all. Brown County (which doesn't have a FIRST team (yet) also has some of the best hills in the world for running, XC camp is there in the summer.

ngreen 28-04-2004 20:36

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My views are a little skewed compared to most of you. I consider the midwest west of the Mississippi and ends at Mountain Time( a little before the Rockies). Everything to the east of Mississippi is the East or Mid-east for those of you who don't want to associate with the East. And to the west of the Rockies is the West. When you are in the middle of the country. Yes, Kansas is the center. It is hard for me to describe Michigan and Indiana as the MidWEST. They are to the east. It makes no sense.

JVN 28-04-2004 20:42

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Originally Posted by Elyse Holguin
Bloomington does have some nasty hills. NOT fun driving around there with ice at all.

I'm crying for you, believe me. :rolleyes:

Marc P. 28-04-2004 20:47

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Behold: The regions of the United States!!

Great explanations of each region too! It says of the northeast-
Quote:

In their business dealings, New Englanders gained a reputation for hard work, shrewdness, thrift, and ingenuity.
Take that midwest :D

For those with any second thoughts as to what the regions are :p


And no one can complain about a hill without seeing the devils backbone here in Bethlehem CT... steep grade + dangerous curve == fun in the winter :ahh:

Jessica Boucher 28-04-2004 21:13

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Originally Posted by Marc P.
And no one can complain about a hill without seeing the devils backbone here in Bethlehem CT... steep grade + dangerous curve == fun in the winter :ahh:

Yay for obscure CT references only the Litchfield County Alliance (38, 237 & 716) will get!!! :D

Chris Fultz 28-04-2004 21:15

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Originally Posted by Fireworks 234
Although I'm not going to argue with that, you can't forget our buddies in Illinois and Ohio.:yikes:

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Elyse Holguin 28-04-2004 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN
I'm crying for you, believe me. :rolleyes:

hey, I'm just someone who's used to driving around from Hammond to Chicago, Kokomo , or Indianapolis. :p Excuse me if I don't enjoy driving through the Appalachians on a daily basis... or whatever you weird Northeasterners have. :D

Manoel 28-04-2004 21:37

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Okay, guys...
Everyone is coming and saying nice things about their teams and region, but now this thread really need an impartial observer. Let me tell you what we see from the Southern Hemisphere, taking a much better view of the big picture. :cool:

Over our 5 years of competition, we've been to the West, East and Midwest. This year, attending the Midwest regional, we realized the obvious: The Midwest teams are the most competitive ones and their robots really are the best.
But Midwest teams, don't be too proud of yourselves. The Brazilian teams are growing in number and in a couple of years the Midwest will totally lose their spot at the top of the rank. :D

PS - Non-Midwest teams: sorry... but we just had to make up for the warm reception we got at the Midwest Regional... Just goes to prove how great those teams are! :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Grady
By the way, you can keep talking trash all ya want...I think its fun, and it adds to the rivalry...just as long as it stays fun and there are no personal attacks or anything like that.

Chris Fultz 28-04-2004 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoel
Okay, guys...
This year, attending the Midwest regional, we realized the obvious: The Midwest teams are the most competitive ones and their robots really are the best.
:p

383 is my new favorite team in the entire FIRST world.

Andy Grady 28-04-2004 21:58

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Originally Posted by Marc P.

Actually that map is fairly accurate in my eyes....

Here is how I consider the regional divisions in FIRST.

According to that map, New England and the Mid Atlantic would be the Northeast. The midwest is exactly as it looks, The south would be a mix of the southwest and the south, and the west would be exactly as shown. When you mix those 4 regions and add the 5th region (international teams), that would make my divisional separation.

Collin Fultz 28-04-2004 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoel
Okay, guys...
Everyone is coming and saying nice things about their teams and region, but now this thread really need an impartial observer. Let me tell you what we see from the Southern Hemisphere, taking a much better view of the big picture. :cool:

Over our 5 years of competition, we've been to the West, East and Midwest. This year, attending the Midwest regional, we realized the obvious: The Midwest teams are the most competitive ones and their robots really are the best.
But Midwest teams, don't be too proud of yourselves. The Brazilian teams are growing in number and in a couple of years the Midwest will totally lose their spot at the top of the rank. :D

PS - Non-Midwest teams: sorry... but we just had to make up for the warm reception we got at the Midwest Regional... Just goes to prove how great those teams are! :p

there you have it...Midwest-only the best

Northeast-not in the least
The MidWest is the best
The south?
Shut your mouth!
Midwest is the best
They're better than the rest!
West? Oh you jest (sorry really bad rhyme :) )
Midwest is the best :cool:

Elyse Holguin 28-04-2004 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Collin Fultz
there you have it...Midwest-only the best

Northeast-not in the least
The MidWest is the best
The south?
Shut your mouth!
Midwest is the best
They're better than the rest!
West? Oh you jest (sorry really bad rhyme :) )
Midwest is the best :cool:

collin... we're trying to look GOOD here... :rolleyes: :p :D

Marc P. 28-04-2004 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Collin Fultz
there you have it...Midwest-only the best

Northeast-not in the least
The MidWest is the best
The south?
Shut your mouth!
Midwest is the best
They're better than the rest!
West? Oh you jest (sorry really bad rhyme :) )
Midwest is the best :cool:


Hah! Northeast is just taking a vacation. Letting our neighbors accross the mountains taste some victory before we decide to make our comeback! You poor midwesterners are playing right into our hands... (cue evil laughter)

Matt_Kaplan1902 28-04-2004 22:59

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I have to agree and say that the Mid-West is the best. But you all are underestimating the South. Just look at some of the amazing teams down here:

233
343
79
312
108 (so I'm a little biased)
180
342
... and the list goes on

I predict that next years Championship alliance will include a Florida team.

Ben Lauer 28-04-2004 23:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elyse Holguin
Bloomington does have some nasty hills. NOT fun driving around there with ice at all. Brown County (which doesn't have a FIRST team (yet) also has some of the best hills in the world for running, XC camp is there in the summer.


True True, i went to a camp there: the toilet was a hole in the ground, you think they are ready for a robotics team?!?!
but for real, those hills are killer when you are on a bike...it's called the hilly hundred, two days, 50 miles a day (if you are a cycler you should check it out)

J/K
ben

Clell Chatman 30-04-2004 23:36

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Well, I have to say that team 16 Baxter Bomb Squad is not part of the South but part of the Midwest. With that adjustment you must calculate in the wins team 16 took. I do believe one those two wins this year was in a Northeastern regional.

Oh Ya, The Chesapeake Regional


Here in Mountain Home, AR we even make the medical plastics that keep you Northeastern people alive.

RoteAugen 02-05-2004 01:01

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Back when our team did well at the nats (long time ago lol) our seniors would all sing "the immigrant song" by Led Zeppelin. Why? well, listen to the lyrics! the Northeasterners are used to mimicking the Vikings!

Levin571 04-05-2004 07:06

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The Northeast teams bash the other Northeast teams out of competitions, then the midwest teams come along and get you while your weak from the last kill.

But the Northeast shall one day rise again!!!

DE-FENCE... DE-FENCE


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