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If you look at it. If they have 1 regional in most of the states in 5 years *crosses fingers* wouldn't your team be going to more than 2-3? :D
I know that I would! |
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watch for a large increase in teams from Canada though. This year we added our first significant amount of out of ontario teams (aside from 296 and some other east coast teams, sorry cant remember numbers ;)) with teams from british columbia and alberta coming into the Canadian Regional. We are already expanding next year with the Waterloo Regional, and I would think it extremely probably that a western canadian regional could occur within 2006-2007 time frame. I also predict that we will have a Canadian team as national champions within 5 years, there is just too much development going on to ignore that possibility. =D
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I agree with J Flex.... FIRST is striking a relatively new piece of potential. Canada as well as the European nations are starting to kick into gear with forming new teams. I'd say we might see a European regional in 5 years. I will say I think that in 5 years, the team expansion is going to start to level off. There is only a certain amount that the FIRST employees can handle efficiently. On top of that, if you get beyond a certain point you lose the "FIRST helping the individual" aspect in most cases, it's better to have fewer teams that can be concentrated on then so many teams just being chaotic. I think that we will start to see a decline in the expansion of teams from the US at least because I know that in my area of Florida, there isn't much more we can do. The Orlando teams are growing like mad, they are popping up everywhere, but then the money threshhold and the sponsors becomes an issue as well as interested volunteers. FIRST is reaching it's saturation point in many areas, or it will in the very near future, but again like Jeffrey said... now we have other nations just starting to kick into gear.
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I know back in 1998 and the few years before the Technokats would send an early and a late group to regionals, Chicago and Yippisilanti (sp?) back then. This would alleviate the problems of missing a lotof shool which the administration saw as an issue then. |
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well, i better get a new set of eyes. i blatantly and wrongly assumed that that banner over the escalators was FIRST-related, silly me... i had no clue that atlanta had a three-year contract, that means teams that go and went this year can get to the fun sights and activities right when they arrive :-)
anyone know of any new regionals next year? i know the northwest region doesn't have enough participating teams just yet to split into two, but soon enough... SEATTLE, HOLLA |
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(Pardon me saying nationals, I still say it's in orlando too. I'm old-school)
I think that FIRST will have to have two nationals at some point. there are two huge issues when it comes to nationals that FIRST will have to deal with. First: In 2000 there were 500 teams or so and 250 went to nationals, in 2002 they instated the limit and 250 of the 750 teams got to go. In 2004 they had almost 1000 teams and 250 got to go. The impact of the limit will be felt more and more each year, as the number of teams grows but the number at nats is 250. Second: The imaginary line between east and west is not so imaginary anymore. The coasts are growing apart, and are rapidly taking on more of an approach to FIRST. East has drifted towards the competitive side and west towards the let's have fun side. IE: national champs all east coast, Engineering inspiration and Chairman's west coast. As the regions grow more diverse, nationals will start to give off an alienated feel to some teams. Even now, for west coast teams, going to nationals is like being the away team. The volunteers, judges and refs are almost all east coast people. It gives off an east coast dominance feel and makes west coast teams not feel welcome. |
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i would like to see more international teams in the next few years , maybe from say uk and european mainland,
being the only team on "This side of the pond" is a bit lonely :( |
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Maybe there will be Internationals or World Championship Event?
Would be cool, some amount of teams from the nationals of all participating country get to go! You could have nationals from Canada, USA, Europe, Asia, South America, and so on... Bringing FIRST to the World! http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=35678 |
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Yay to resurrecting an old thread!!! Thank you for searching though. As to the International Championship, I do believe that the event in Atlanta is for teams from all over the world that are in competition. Teams from Canada, Germany, Brazil (and I know I'm forgetting some, sorry) are all at the Championship event in GA, commonly referred to as "nationals."
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Wow, a lot of good points made on this thread.
I think that in 5 years you will no doubt see a European regional. I got goosebumps thinking of a national team. That would be so cool having each country involved (over the summer of course) send some students to a location and build a national robot. Then like the Olympics, send the team to an alternating location around the world. I don't think sponsorship would be a problem. I don't know of any big companies that wouldn't want world-wide advertising. I definitely see a Canadian team winning championship. I see even as soon as next year that the Israeli regional becoming at least 20 teams. In terms of getting too big, I don't see how you can have a team want to sign up and say "we have too many teams right now, we cant handle it". I think that would go against everything FIRST stands for and i don't see it happening. They will have a regional every other block if necessary. I think that as the number of regionals increase it will come to"only teams making the elimination rounds and chairmans teams can go to Nat's, then "only Finalist teams and Chairmans teams"then only Chairmans and Regional Winners. I think that they may go to a Regional Bracket. they will have a ton of Quarterfinal Regionals then semis then the Championship Event. There is a lot of possibilities but they will never turn a team down because there are too many. I think that at the end of this year they should say that 300 teams is it for Nat's. Write up a FINAL qualification document and stick with it until they have to switch to something like Quarterfinal regionals. Well thats where I see FIRST in 5 years(Or Less) :D |
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I have seen a shift over the past 3 years. I remember seeing the CBS 2002 FIRST documentary and Dean talking about kids who think they will get into the NBA, how their chances are greater to win the lottery than making a dime in ANY sports. Now, fast forward to 2 3/4 years latter and to the Florida regional with Woodie Flowers. Remember that fictitious news article 20 years from now he created?
In 5 years FIRST will have more of a focus on chaining the culture to positive attitudes and a better place to live rather than recruiting the world to engineering. I think the engineering idea is working very well now, and in 5 years FIRST will reach out to more than those in middle or high school students in teams. VEX teams will learn gracious professionalism and positive attitudes that have defined FIRST. The pieces are in place guys. We have the equivalent of the basketball hoop in the driveway (VEX), the P.E. and inter league teams (FLL), JV teams (VEX), and Varsity/College/NBA teams (FRC). |
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There have been a lot of issues pertaining to size discussed in the thread, and since I agree with JosephM that the fundamentals of the program are in place, I'll focus on that.
Keep in mind that each year, as the number of teams increases, the number of teams at each regional increases. I think we'll be seeing more "Super-Regionals", i.e., Regionals with more than one field in various locations. One of the most important changes will be the evolution of a game. This year brought a 6 per field format vs the previous year's 4 per field format, and it gave more qualification rounds per team. I think things like this will even out and things will work out. There will be a water game. |
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one goals of FIRST is to have a team in every HS in north america.
On the way to that goal we will have growing pains. When it became necessary to limit the number of teams who could attend the championship, moans were heard across the land. I hope there will always be only one championship. I expect the role of Super-Regionals to expand I expect to see teams venturing out when they have the resources to Super Regionals in distant cities with exciting extra-FIRST attractions. The more cities that have regionals the easier it is for every highschool in those cities to have a team. Raising several thousand dollars to send a small team to a local regional is not hard to do. Raising 20 to 30 thousand to send a team to another city for a regional is a different story. Look for FIRST to grow at both ends. More smaller teams at local regionals, more super regionals that are better than the old championships were and a true championship that every team will strive to attend at least once every 5 years. |
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