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white_ChocOlat8 26-04-2004 21:57

New divisions at nats?
 
Hypothetically speaking lets just say first added two new divisions as a way for more teams to come to nationals, what do you think they should be named?

dez250 26-04-2004 21:58

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
not watt, if you want to know the story, ask Ron Partridge.

Marc P. 26-04-2004 22:01

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Kamen and Flowers :)


Or how about Kepler and Faraday

RBrandy 26-04-2004 22:01

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Maybe Write and Edison

Or maybe for next year, putting Einstein into the mix too.

Dan Richardson 26-04-2004 22:58

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Liebnitz and Pathagoras ( sp ? on both )

I would assume those would be pretty good ones.

henryBsick 26-04-2004 23:07

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stud Man Dan
Liebnitz and Pathagoras ( sp ? on both )

I would assume those would be pretty good ones.


All about Pythagorus!!!
Ohm
Watt-wait, nm, Mike.
Faraday
Volta
Armstrong- (osscilator guy, added a radio coil)
Galvany (sp..?)
Franklin- Oh yeah, the big 100.

And the all important.....
Baker
or.......
Lavery

Lots of cool names out there. :D .
Sorry for the flood, I got carried away. :D :D

abeD 26-04-2004 23:07

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Staying on the Calculus Euler

And from Physics Tesla, hmm i also like Darwin

Melissa Nute 26-04-2004 23:08

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Faraday!

dez250 26-04-2004 23:23

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meli W.
Faraday!

We need a Faraday Field, i repeate, we need a Faraday Field...

ngreen 26-04-2004 23:29

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dez250
We need a Faraday Field, i repeate, we need a Faraday Field...

or Coloumb field...

abeD 26-04-2004 23:31

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Why don't we just get into elementary particles and go with Quark Field :D

Elgin Clock 26-04-2004 23:32

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Socrates.. He was cool in that Bill and Ted's excellent adventure movie..:p

But, as you may already know.. We already have the Elgin Clock Division (honest, it's in there!!)

It's just that....somebody forgot to tell me.

MikeDubreuil 26-04-2004 23:40

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
As a computer engineering student I'd like to see a Volta division.

nerdcool64 26-04-2004 23:41

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Pascal, Gutenburg, I would be really in favor of Wright or maybe even VanBraun.

Andy Baker 26-04-2004 23:56

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
A few more...

Copernicus field

Da Vinci field

Strawberry field (they can serve lunch there, while listening to Beatles tunes)

Andy B.

Karthik 27-04-2004 00:43

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Baker
A few more...
Da Vinci field

You read my mind on that one Andy. Da Vinci was the man. He had his hands in everything. He was an engineer, mathematician, philosopher, anatomist, geologist, painter, sculptor and architect (Plus a bunch of other things as well). The term "renaissance man" was coined because of him (and a few of his contemporaries).

I mean, he painted the Mona Lisa, and developed theories on hydraulics and gearing. He painted the Last Supper, and designed the first helicopter. His genius was only limited by the time he lived in. Most of his inventions and ideas would only be fully appreciated long after his death.

For more information on some of his inventions go check out: http://www.lib.stevens-tech.edu/coll...ons/index.html

For information on his art, go take an art history course. It's the best way to gain a true appreciation of his impact on his time.

Whenever I think of Da Vinci I'm amazed by the range of his talents. There has never been a more intellectually well rounded person in history. I have a huge respect for anyone with artistic talents as is, but when you combine that greatness with technical savy. Wow.

Da Vinci was simply awesome. One of my old school idols.

/End Karthik's history rant...

Amanda Morrison 27-04-2004 01:08

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
My vote is for (Charlotte) Bronte Field and (Franz) Kafka Field ;)

Mike Schroeder 27-04-2004 01:13

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Baker
A few more...

Strawberry field (they can serve lunch there, while listening to Beatles tunes)

Andy B.

Be carful baker, the youngins may not understand that one.....

seeing as i am a giant star wars geek, how about the Skywalker Field
or (and i am suprised no one said this yet)

The John V-Nuen field

or after he reads this and gets mad,

The Big Mike Memorial Field?

-Big Mike (hiding under my bed)

Ali Ahmed 27-04-2004 01:21

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
The Ford Division

The Bell Division

Kris Verdeyen 27-04-2004 01:42

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison
My vote is for (Charlotte) Bronte Field and (Franz) Kafka Field ;)

I can see it now....

STU: Well, Harry, here we are at the first FIRWP Championship event, and I gotta tell you, I'm really excited about some of the competition we've seen here today.

HARRY: You hit the nail on the head there, Stu. We have seen some great moves, and a lot of great competitors have gone home early.

STU: I just know you're talking about The Unintelligible Cartoons, a powerhouse team sponsored by The New Yorker Magazine. A team that you told me was going to take it all at this competition, a team that was brought down by a split infinitive over on Vonnegut field earlier today in a hard fought battle with the rookie Random House team, also based out of New York.

HARRY: I really didn't see that coming.

STU: You said it, Harry. But we have a lot more competition to get to this afternoon, to find the grand champion of the four remaining alliances.

HARRY: The champion alliances from the four divisions - Bronte, Vonnegut, Kafka, and Grafton - will battle it out here on Gutenberg field to determine the overall champion of the FIRWP (For inspiration and recognition of writing and philosphy) championship event.


... and so forth :)

ahecht 27-04-2004 02:04

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
In Atlanta, I was having a similar conversation, discussing what would happen if FIRST went from 4 to 8 divisions. Assuming they turned Einstein into a divison, the three new fields we wanted to see were:
  1. DaVinci
  2. Edison
  3. Copernicus
Honorable mentions were (4) Franklin, (5) Watt, (6) Kepler, and (7) Turing.

OneAngryDaisy 27-04-2004 07:09

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Hmm.. if we have a DaVinci field we must also have Michelangleo, Raphael, and Leonardo fields...

Adam Y. 27-04-2004 07:22

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Personally I really don't think Edison or Newton really should be division field names. Edison was not that Graciously Professional and I have to do some more reseach but I think Newton may have been the same way. They were both fairly cut-throat and competed with a lot of people. Anway I noticed a theme with the fields.
Einstein-died in failure (failed in creating a unified theory)
Curie- died of radiation (not really failure but dying because of work)
Archemedies-killed by Roman soilder while doing math problem
Newton-really doesn't fit
Galilelo-died while in permament house arest because of his ideas
I want Tesla (created the whole basis for everyone's power grid yet not really known) and Da Vinci would be a good fit.

Allison K 27-04-2004 09:45

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAngryDaisy
Hmm.. if we have a DaVinci field we must also have Michelangleo, Raphael, and Leonardo fields...

Didn't you ever watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...It's Michelangelo, Raphael, Leonardo and Donatello not, DaVinci ;)

Allison

ngreen 27-04-2004 10:29

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Heisenberg Field - Though somehow we can't define where that one is.

Avogadro Field - He's already got a number so why not a field

Planck Field - Nanorobots, maybe in a couple years

Matt Leese 27-04-2004 10:51

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
I'm surprised no one brought up the idea of a Goddard Field. Given sponsorship by NASA, they'd probably be all for the inventor of the liquid rocket.

Matt

Sean Schuff 27-04-2004 11:12

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Wow! Lots of good ideas.

I'm partial to -

1 - Tesla - possibly the single greatest unsung hero (UFH?) in the history of man. Look him up if your not an EE. If you are and EE (or a geek like me!), you already know who he is!

2 - DaVinci - what a man WAY, WAY ahead of his time!

Actually, I don't care what they name the fields! I like the idea of adding two more divisions and allowing more teams to attend the national championships! Space doesn't seem to be an issue in Atlanta!

Have a day!

T967 27-04-2004 11:15

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Da Vinci definantly, the man did everything.

As for a second choice why not someone more simple, not a giant science guy but someone that was just skilled and still changed our world?

Wright?
Tesla?
That guy who invented the printing press?


No to Copernicus, he was a lucky fraud. All he did was start a bunch of controversy.

Marc P. 27-04-2004 11:27

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
I'd still have to insist on Faraday. Heck, we wouldn't have robots with electric motors if it weren't for him!

Pasted from this informative biography:

Quote:

The year 1821 marked another important time in Faraday's researches. He had worked almost entirely on chemistry topics yet one of his interests from his days as a bookbinder had been electricity. In 1820 several scientists in Paris including Arago and Ampère made significant advances in establishing a relation between electricity and magnetism. Davy became interested and this gave Faraday the opportunity to work on the topic. He published On some new electro-magnetical motions, and on the theory of magnetism in the Quarterly Journal of Science in October 1821. Pearce Williams writes [1]:-

It records the first conversion of electrical into mechanical energy. It also contained the first notion of the line of force.

T967 27-04-2004 12:23

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Tesla actually did all that, but he was a weird duck. By did I mean he came up with concepts and made things, he didn't just theorize. (Keep in mind alot of people made papers, it's the ones who put them to use that get alot of recognition. exception: Einstein-his theories create entire fields of study, and are about to again. Gravity Probe B)

Ben Lauer 27-04-2004 12:27

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Divinci,
Libnitz
Faraday

no, i cannot spele

Madison 27-04-2004 12:58

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
What about Sally?

Andy Baker 27-04-2004 13:19

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Krass
What about Sally?

I DOUBT anyone would be FIREd up about having SMOKEy (and the) BANDITs running around a field of STEEL MAGNOLIAS (aka, good-looking robots). We need to stick to NORMAl, RAEl scientists, even though Sally holds special PLACES IN THE HEART of many FIRSTers.

This would be as silly as a FLYING NUN.

I would NOT go to this field WITHOUT MY DAUGHTER and there would be no ABSENSE OF MALICE if you would SAY IT ISN'T SO.



Andy B.

George1902 27-04-2004 13:29

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Wow... I don't know what's scarier: Andy's reply or the fact the it took Andy's reply for me to get M's joke.

Exams have taken their toll I guess.

My vote is for Da Vinci, btw.

RiceRobotica 27-04-2004 13:42

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Faraday, Rutherford, Tesla.... Any of those would be good. :)

Pin Man 27-04-2004 15:08

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
I'd say Edison and Socrates

ah27 27-04-2004 15:19

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
My definite favs would be Franklin, and Edison.

Pin Man 27-04-2004 15:21

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Is this just hypothetical or are they really thinking to have these two new fields??? I mean because I don't think they could get 2 more fields in there... maybe one if they took away the legos... hmmm...

Team311 27-04-2004 16:03

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
how bout in keeping with the technology theme the Gates Field or The Torvalds Field or even the Berners-Lee Field

gsensel 27-04-2004 16:11

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Wozniak and Jobs sound pretty good

RBrandy 27-04-2004 21:55

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T967
No to Copernicus, he was a lucky fraud. All he did was start a bunch of controversy.

I'd say he's a good cantidate... As the inventor of controversy.

mtrawls 27-04-2004 22:10

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
What about the Gravity field and the Electric field? Then at the finals, you could talk about the cases where the electric field dominates (or the other way around) ...

Sorry, recovering from a quantum physics test :yikes:

How 'bout Gauss? I mean, really, Gauss was everywhere. Number theory, imaginary numbers, linear algebra ... and that's not even to mention the half of it, and then there's his physics contributions (a little thing called Gauss's law for starters). Of course, as a programmer, I'd also have to appreciate Turing (previous suggestion).

Tristan Lall 27-04-2004 22:28

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtrawls
How 'bout Gauss? I mean, really, Gauss was everywhere. Number theory, imaginary numbers, linear algebra ... and that's not even to mention the half of it, and then there's his physics contributions (a little thing called Gauss's law for starters).

Wasn't there a Gauss field in 2001, when they had 4 indoor fields plus the big Einstein bandshell, at Epcot?

RBrandy 27-04-2004 22:32

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
No... there were only four fields. Einstein was used as a field. The divisions were annotated by a color (Red, White, Blue, and Gold)

T967 27-04-2004 22:38

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
[QUOTE/]How 'bout Gauss? I mean, really, Gauss was everywhere. Number theory, imaginary numbers, linear algebra ... and that's not even to mention the half of it, and then there's his physics contributions (a little thing called Gauss's law for starters). Of course, as a programmer, I'd also have to appreciate Turing (previous suggestion).[/quote]
Nah we already got two math geniuses. If it came down to it, (I already want davinci) I guess I like the wright's. Those guys got it done. (Plus who better would represent the first american named field. Come-on the guys did what we do in competion every year. They just changed the world.)

Devin L. 27-04-2004 22:46

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pin Man
Is this just hypothetical or are they really thinking to have these two new fields??? I mean because I don't think they could get 2 more fields in there... maybe one if they took away the legos... hmmm...

ya, get rid of legos and have them enjoy the 15 min walk to the pits :D lol

Katie Reynolds 28-04-2004 00:12

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Schuff
1 - Tesla ...
2 - DaVinci ...

I've gotta agree with Schuff - C'mon, Tesla is cool enough to have an <shamless plug> engineering charter school named after him </shamless plug> ;) and DaVinci was just awesome.

:yikes:

Ryan F. 28-04-2004 00:16

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
I'm all for the wrights idea.

suneel112 28-04-2004 00:35

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Since Newton represents the mechanics and gravitational side of physics, Archimedes represents fluid dynamics (maybe :confused: ), Galileo represents astronomy, and Curie represents Nuclear Physics (to some degree), there needs to be a person from Electronics and Magnetism recognized. The robot building is half mechanics and half E&M so E&M should also be recognized.
Maybe Gauss, Ampere, or Faraday

of course, its time that a field gets named after either an American or an Asian.
Joseph Henry
Edwin Hubble
J. Robert Oppenheimer
Benjamin Franklin
<insert other Prominent American Scientists here>
Industrial/Engineering:
Ford
Edison
Dean Kamen

Chandra
<instert other Asians here>

Alex Pelan 05-05-2004 23:01

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Copernicus and Da Vinci get my vote...

Joshua May 05-05-2004 23:13

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Volta, Da Vinci, Edison,

and of course... BAKER and GRADY, the great andys!!!

Nick Mac 06-05-2004 17:58

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
I say DaVinci and Franklin

Jay TenBrink 06-05-2004 19:44

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Mac
I say DaVinci and Franklin

After hearing that we will soon be seeing advertising on the bases during professional baseball games, I will be happy as long as the fields are named after our pioneers in the sciences.

If we do have to sell out, how about "IBM Field" and "Pepsi Field" ?

Adam Y. 06-05-2004 20:09

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
Can I hear a Disney a Disney here??? How about Timken? Can I hear a Timken? What about Goodyear?? I'll give a cookie to whoever can guess what Disney invented. I expect all non-rookie people to know what Timken invented. If not then you either have not read the parts list or do not work on the robot.:)

Ken Leung 07-05-2004 05:37

Re: New divisions at nats?
 
I cannot believe no one suggested this name:

The V-Neun division.

:D :p

Actually.

Remember how Dean said more scientist and engineers should be heroes or role models for the students? I think when you think of new names for the division, you should definitely keep that in mind. Imagine if you have to come up with a short list of 10 names to be top heroes from the science/engineering field, who would they be.

Personally, I have a lot of respect for Edison. I read about how he had major difficulties in school when he was young, and about how he was tiredlessly trying to invent new things even when he was small. I thought to myself, "He is a legendary inventor, but he is also a human being who never stop trying. Now that's someone to look up to."

Another scientist/engineer I look up to is R. Buckminster Fuller, who forever changed my view of the world ever since I saw a play about him and his experience. But I doubt he is as famous as Newton, Einstein, or Edison.


On the side note, I thought how cool it was when Blair went "Gal-il", and the crowd went "le-o" at the beginning of the finals in Atlanta. When you come up with names for new divisions, they better sound interesting when you say the name out loud.

I think I remember there used to be a Watt field back in the days, but it went away after the divisions were established since 2001. Boy, what a great decision that was.


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