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Bharat Nain 02-05-2004 00:34

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Originally Posted by HHSJosh
Where can I find a copy of the '92 rules?

I dont remember where exactly I found it, but perhaps this thread might help you.

suneel112 03-05-2004 11:44

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What were the old team numbers then? I think they did a re-numbering in 1997 (I think it's also the same year the game got bigger, and used the 52' x 24' field) I know some old numbers...Wildstang (111) was 81, Chief (47) was 32, and i heard that the Technokats (45) were 6. it seems like the 1992 teams are pretty randomized. (Technokats - 45, X-Cats - 191, Gael Force - 126).

Maybe I'll start a thread about this.

Greg Needel 03-05-2004 11:50

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Originally Posted by suneel112
What were the old team numbers then? I think they did a re-numbering in 1997 (I think it's also the same year the game got bigger, and used the 52' x 24' field) I know some old numbers...Wildstang (111) was 81, Chief (47) was 32, and i heard that the Technokats (45) were 6. it seems like the 1992 teams are pretty randomized. (Technokats - 45, X-Cats - 191, Gael Force - 126).

Maybe I'll start a thread about this.



the numbers were re-assigned every year till 97 and at which point they were done alphabeticaly by sponsor ie. team 1 the juggernots were sponsored by 3d systems....and 191 is sponsored by xerox hence the high number

Rob Colatutto 03-05-2004 12:01

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From what I have heard, there were no team numbers issed in 1992. I believe the first year for any numbers was 95 or 96.

Ken Stafford 03-05-2004 12:02

Re: Calling all 1992 FIRST Veterans!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by suneel112
What were the old team numbers then? I think they did a re-numbering in 1997 (I think it's also the same year the game got bigger, and used the 52' x 24' field) I know some old numbers...Wildstang (111) was 81, Chief (47) was 32, and i heard that the Technokats (45) were 6. it seems like the 1992 teams are pretty randomized. (Technokats - 45, X-Cats - 191, Gael Force - 126).

Maybe I'll start a thread about this.

My $.02: The numbers stabilized in '98. Apparently at the decision time there were 191 teams arranged alphabetically by sponsor. Xerox was the last team (191), WPI was the penultimate team (190). Sometime after, more teams joined and were put randomly after 191, also some teams dropped and were removed from the 1-191 sequence. By our records, team numbers were not particularly significant in '92 (you find no mention on any of the robots), in fact, the first WPI robot that had a number on it was in '97 (team 153--just ahead on Xerox at 154).

Ken

Jeff Rodriguez 03-05-2004 12:13

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So, who's buying all the corn?

I thought it was funny, cause it's true :).

Jeff Waegelin 03-05-2004 19:25

Re: Calling all 1992 FIRST Veterans!
 
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Originally Posted by Ken Stafford
My $.02: The numbers stabilized in '98. Apparently at the decision time there were 191 teams arranged alphabetically by sponsor. Xerox was the last team (191), WPI was the penultimate team (190). Sometime after, more teams joined and were put randomly after 191, also some teams dropped and were removed from the 1-191 sequence. By our records, team numbers were not particularly significant in '92 (you find no mention on any of the robots), in fact, the first WPI robot that had a number on it was in '97 (team 153--just ahead on Xerox at 154).

Ken

191 was not the last team in 1998. I know that because my team, 201, competed in 98. But, we were a late registrant, so we were one of those teams "put randomly after 191." I believe that was done by the order in which the teams paid their deposit and registered.

Venkatesh 03-05-2004 21:26

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So, who's buying all the corn?
I have read about all of the FIRST challenges, and by far the corn struck me as the most whimsical and fun. Imagine Zone Zeal with a field of corn or other substitute food. Or Torroid Terror with cotton candy in goals.

Bharat Nain 03-05-2004 21:29

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Originally Posted by Venkatesh
I have read about all of the FIRST challenges, and by far the corn struck me as the most whimsical and fun. Imagine Zone Zeal with a field of corn or other substitute food. Or Torroid Terror with cotton candy in goals.

Where did you read all the game rules etc? I remember reading some of them on the internet, but i never finished reading and now I can't find that page again. Any help?

Alex Pelan 03-05-2004 22:09

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Our website has a good history section
http://www.swindsor.k12.ct.us/Highsc...s/clubs/first/

Since its done with javascript/frames (well, at least I assume, as the Url doesn't change), just click on history, then any year you want....

Matt Leese 04-05-2004 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Stafford
My $.02: The numbers stabilized in '98. Apparently at the decision time there were 191 teams arranged alphabetically by sponsor. Xerox was the last team (191), WPI was the penultimate team (190). Sometime after, more teams joined and were put randomly after 191, also some teams dropped and were removed from the 1-191 sequence. By our records, team numbers were not particularly significant in '92 (you find no mention on any of the robots), in fact, the first WPI robot that had a number on it was in '97 (team 153--just ahead on Xerox at 154).

Ken

I think the last of alphabetical team numbers issued in 1998 was actually 192 (they were sponsored by Xerox that year which is why they appear after the X-Cats). There also were team numbers assigned up to 210 in 1998. However, there were not 210 teams competing as either numbers were skipped or teams dropped out before the actual competition (as an example, there was never a team 3 in competetion in 1998).

Matt

Ken Stafford 13-05-2004 16:20

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Originally Posted by Mike M.
Actually D.J. we have our 92 robot on display in our high school in one of our FIRST display cases

Yes indeed! In fact we just heard that Gael Force IS planning on dusting it off and bringing it to BattleCry! So we will at least have the top 2 '92 robots in action again!

Btw, through the insistance and assistance of Kurt Heizmann (DEKA now, WPI faculty-mentor in '92), we will run these robots unmodified. Kurt thinks he will be able to reproduce the original powered tether system.

BattleCry has been filled to the 42 team capacity for a while now (we could still use a few more reserve teams!), but if any of you have access to one of the original robots--bring 'em on down! For those teams that can't make it to "Wustah", check out the BattleCry site in a week or two to see how to receive the streaming video of every match (including the Maize Craze replay!).

Ken

Devin L. 14-05-2004 15:24

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Yes indeed! In fact we just heard that Gael Force IS planning on dusting it off and bringing it to BattleCry! So we will at least have the top 2 '92 robots in action again!
i hate to bring u this news, but we will not be running our '92 robot. Our '92 robot will be brought to the comp i believe, but only for display.

Ken Stafford 14-05-2004 15:34

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Originally Posted by Devin L.
i hate to bring u this news, but we will not be running our '92 robot. Our '92 robot will be brought to the comp i believe, but only for display.

Too bad, one of your mentors had indicated otherwise. They are so simple to operate, it would be a shame not to power it up...(no programming, no speed controllers, no pneumatics, no batteries to deal with,...). Maybe tough to justify the field and tether system with only 1 'bot! Make for a kinda boring streaming video bit... Anybody else want to see the '92 champion robot in action?

Ken

Devin L. 14-05-2004 15:40

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well we will be having a team meeting on monday for BTB so me and Mike M. will bring this up and try to get our '92 robot to compete


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