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Billfred 05-05-2004 19:21

First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
On the fomer part--yee-haw!

On the latter part, I'm curious. Is there any interest anywhere in holding a non-FLL competition with some different challenge? Like extreme line following...with obstacles.

Or how about a mini DARPA Grand Challenge?. I mean, if you take about six zeroes off of the prize budget and throw in a dozen Krispy Kremes, it'd definitely be financially feasible.

Comments, anyone?

Max Lobovsky 05-05-2004 21:13

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
what exactly do you mean by "mini"? How would the Grand Challenge be simplified?

RogerR 05-05-2004 21:21

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxlobovsky
what exactly do you mean by "mini"? How would the Grand Challenge be simplified?

one obvious way: instead of 143 miles through the desert, make it 1

Elgin Clock 05-05-2004 21:25

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
Or even hold one in a parking lot, with FIRST robots or even lego mindstorm robots.

Pat Roche 05-05-2004 23:04

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
Or even hold one in a parking lot, with FIRST robots or even lego mindstorm robots.

Im liking the idea of mindstorming across a parking lot :yikes:

Billfred 06-05-2004 21:29

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
Well, given the lack of GPS on a Mindstorms robot, I ruled that idea out immediately.

I figure it'd come out one of two ways...one is my previously mentioned extreme line following (uphill, downhill, over bumps--everything that requires a robot to be 1293-robust in construction. (For those who didn't see us at Palmetto, our frame was so overly strong that we'd only get a nick from another robot checking us in the side.)).

Or perhaps a dead-reckoning contest. Set some key points, then judge the robots based on how close they aimed it. It'd force a lot of creative programming, given the wide performance spectrum of lego motors.

And then there's the financially more straining plan C...set up a few RCXs, each transmitting a certain number. You've just got to hit the RCXs (if cactus plural is cacti, is ar-cee-ex plural RCI?) in order, without hitting other stuff.

A parking lot would be a distinct possibility, if you didn't mind your robots getting a little dusty. I think a nice big cafeteria would also function, plus it's easier to have food in.

On a side note, if a regular group got together once or twice a month and competed for a prize/small-time cash, what would be a fair number to finance that and the competition? Five bucks? Ten? (In R/C racing, ten seems to be the going rate. And that's weekly.)

Astronouth7303 07-05-2004 21:31

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
Hack gyros & accelometers. Get a first controller to talk to an RCX (I know how! He he!). Do a whole lot of hacking all around (Can we leagally use an RCX in the FRC?)

This is right up my alley! :]

Billfred 07-05-2004 22:26

Re: First (or is it FIRST) post--and a question on competitions.
 
1) I'd love to see how.
2) You can?! Wow.
3) Hacking is t3h 1337.
4) I doubt it, just on grounds of powering and motors. But if you can power it and make it do calculations, go for it.

So I take it by your experimentation you've gotten a FRC controller to talk to an RCX? Any chance this could be carried over to the Edubo--er, Robovation? If so, I could definitely see the potential for a waypoint system for a GC-style competition, as they tend to be a bit more...common around here.


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