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Nick Fury 14-05-2004 07:50

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
VI, VIM, EMACS, XEMACS, the winSCP editor for last minute stuff, and notepad for when I can't get access to an editor with syntax coloring.

LauraN 14-05-2004 15:15

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
I've never touched Dreamweaver.

Once upon a time I discovered that I had Front Page installed on my computer as part of the Microsoft Office package, so I decided to try it.

I HATED it and never opened it a second time. Sorry, I just don't like there being stuff in my code that I didn't write. Like all this superfluous font stuff and just...eh.

Noah (Impulse3D) tried to convert me to HTML-kit. The syntax highlighting is nifty, but I can live without it. And the FTP stuff is super convenient, but I don't like the way it previews.

Notepad all the way. =)

kjohnson 14-05-2004 21:08

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
I use Internet Design Shop Gold - something that came free with my HP scanner. Very easy to use and make quick changes but I still make my own HTML code for almost everything except the layout. I haven't used Frontpage in a few years - used it once and didn't like it (DSG has all the same features). I'm working on getting a copy of Dreamweaver from the guy that used to do the website and now runs our server because the school doesn't have Dreamweaver - they use Frontpage.

Alex Pelan 14-05-2004 21:56

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Our team uses dreamweaver, although i'm a big proponent of notepad with ie/mozilla to preview. I tried frontpage a couple of years ago, and I must say I didn't like it. It had the same text editing problems and annoying autoformatting that microsoft word has.

Nathan Pell 14-05-2004 22:29

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
I am an extreme novice at this, and since our school system bought a copy for every teacher I am using Dreamweaver. If fact, we have the whole suit so I use everything in the Macromedia suit. I really like Dreamweaver as I do a lot of dynamic pages and it makes connecting to the databased a lot easier for me.

Yippee!!

Nathan Pell

Guest 14-05-2004 22:30

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Quick question, why use anything else when you have a simple text editor like Notepad or SimpleText?

miketwalker 14-05-2004 22:34

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStar
Quick question, why use anything else when you have a
simple text editor like Notepad or SimpleText?

I agree, I usually just use Notepad or Ultraedit (I use Ultraedit for coding that's not HTML usually because the color-coding makes it ALOT easier to work with when debugging and such) but yea... I think the best work can be done with just hand-coding. But then again, that's just me ;) I'm not a fan of WYSIWYG.

jonathan lall 14-05-2004 22:36

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverStar
Quick question, why use anything else when you have a simple text editor like Notepad or SimpleText?

You use something else because Notepad really doesn't make people 1337. Dreamweaver will check tags, spelling, validation, autocomplete, and highlight syntax. It will also manage your website hierarchy quite well through FTP or other means.

plutonium83 15-05-2004 09:44

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Homesite 5 and Photoshop

I started doing HTML with notepad in the beginning and I am able to make a site with it. I dislike Dreamweaver because of the code it generates, most of it is very sloppy and repetitive. I dont expect any better from any other WYSIWYG editor!

Homesite is good enough for my needs, its like notepad designed for HTML with wizards, highlighting, etc.

For Design, I normally "sketch" the page in Photoshop. Then I slice up the image. With sketching I'm able to "see" the site better since I'm a visual person. I highly recommend it.

Joshua May 15-05-2004 10:15

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Straight hardcoding with Notepad. However, when I started out, I used Frontpage 2000 to teach myself HTML and to work on design. I think though that I will try out ConTEXT.

jonathan lall 15-05-2004 11:46

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plutonium83
Homesite 5 and Photoshop

I started doing HTML with notepad in the beginning and I am able to make a site with it. I dislike Dreamweaver because of the code it generates, most of it is very sloppy and repetitive. I dont expect any better from any other WYSIWYG editor!

Homesite is good enough for my needs, its like notepad designed for HTML with wizards, highlighting, etc.

For Design, I normally "sketch" the page in Photoshop. Then I slice up the image. With sketching I'm able to "see" the site better since I'm a visual person. I highly recommend it.

When I first started, I had tried Homesite. While I dislike WYSIWYG, I found that Dreamweaver, left in Coding Mode, works better than Homesite in general. After a brief Notepad phase, I realized that Dreamweaver used properly was far more efficient. It won't "generate" code if you don't use Design (WYSIWYG) Mode.

As for doing a design in Photoshop beforehand, I do no such thing. Aside from the fact that I'm not too crazy about Photoshop, I'm not particularly good at applying a bunch of filters to make 'art' for sites anyway. First I figure out what's going to be on the site, then I figure out the best way to present it, and then I start messing with CSS and images to make a layout.

pludodog 15-05-2004 22:37

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Vi here... Vim, actually. ::thanks god no one has mentioned emacs::

Goobergunch 16-05-2004 12:25

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
We generally use Notepad.

Joe Ross 16-05-2004 12:33

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pludodog
Vi here... Vim, actually. ::thanks god no one has mentioned emacs::

Actually, someone did.


Anyone use Mozilla Composer or NVU (http://www.nvu.com)? I really like Mozilla Composer for throwing together a few pages quickly, because it makes it easy to use a combination wysiwyg and hand code editing, and the code that the wysiwyg editor doesn't suck.

Zzyzx 16-05-2004 12:47

Re: What program do you use for webdesign?
 
I'm not the Webmaster of our team, so I might have the wrong program, but I beleive that our team (492) uses a progam called ColdFusion. Whatever program we use, our website is still cool.


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