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Lisa Perez 23-05-2004 22:30

Draft..
 
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...ua_congressorg

Eh.. Thoughts?

Elgin Clock 23-05-2004 22:39

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Well, it would give me something to do while I am out of work cause the US economy sux so badly.

But seriously, I wonder what each of the presidental candidates would think/vote on this issue?

That would definately sway my voting stance.

Eugenia Gabrielov 23-05-2004 22:44

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I agree. I would most definitly not vote for anyone that would reinstate the draft. I think it's a pretty interesting thing that they're trying to cover it up with election year things. It's pretty sad, since a lot of FIRSTers I know are in that age range. I honestly hope nothing goes through.

RogerR 23-05-2004 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa Perez

oh snap...good catch, i went ahead and forwarded it too.

Lisa Perez 23-05-2004 22:49

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Guys, I really think we should all write letters to our representatives concerning this issue. I am. =/

Eugenia Gabrielov 23-05-2004 22:54

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I am writing one as well. Being the pessimist that I am, I'm honestly afraid it would go through. If it did go through hypothetically, what would people do...? I think I would personally, if it were an option, vote to be put in a medical position, like running bandages or something. *shrug* it's practice.

Ashley Weed 23-05-2004 22:55

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It's part of being an American, standing proud for who you are - no matter if you believe it is right or not. You are in this country, and you should stand by her for everything she is going through, and everything she is worth. I know the struggles all to well, and have great pride to be here in the glorious country - as I know others on here will have similar thoughts as I.

Yes, it does scare me, that old classmates may go (many have already willingly been sent), family members may be drafted, and I may even lose my soul mate. But its a beautiful country, and I would be happy to do everything possible to stand by her.

Elgin Clock 23-05-2004 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa Perez
Guys, I really think we should all write letters to our representatives concerning this issue. I am. =/

While this is your constitutional right, and a great thing to do IMO, I would be more obliged to write a letter to the local, or national news station and get some press on this issue, since a) your representative probably already knows about this, b) the letter to the news station would get some media attention to this issue which is what the people in congress trying to enact this law are trying to avoid by covering it up under the presidental election year.

Forward to the news, and see how long it takes for everyone to write to their representative, and uncover this issue.

Eugenia Gabrielov 23-05-2004 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley Weed
It's part of being an American, standing proud for who you are - no matter if you believe it is right or not. You are in this country, and you should stand by her for everything she is going through, and everything she is worth. I know the struggles all to well, and have great pride to be here in the glorious country - as I know others on here will have similar thoughts as I.

Yes, it does scare me, that old classmates may go (many have already willingly been sent), family members may be drafted, and I may even lose my soul mate. But its a beautiful country, and I would be happy to do everything possible to stand by her.

I did not mean to say that I do not love this country. I mean more to say, that I among many people that I know do not support the action taking place in Iraq. I admire your pride in the country, though I must say I believe that a draft isn't an appropriate action at this time in our country's history. If I were drafted I would refuse to fight, for religious moral and personal reasons.

Ashley Weed 23-05-2004 23:05

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Originally Posted by a breezy era
I did not mean to say that I do not love this country. I mean more to say, that I among many people that I know do not support the action taking place in Iraq. I admire your pride in the country, though I must say I believe that a draft isn't an appropriate action at this time in our country's history. If I were drafted I would refuse to fight, for religious moral and personal reasons.

Sorry, wasn't atacking or directing it towards anyones post. Was moreso just a statement and opinion towards the article from Congress as a whole.

... I hope no one takes it as an offense.

Elgin Clock 23-05-2004 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a breezy era
I did not mean to say that I do not love this country. I mean more to say, that I among many people that I know do not support the action taking place in Iraq. I admire your pride in the country, though I must say I believe that a draft isn't an appropriate action at this time in our country's history. If I were drafted I would refuse to fight, for religious moral and personal reasons.

For fear of turning this thread into a heated debate, I am going to agree with that statement 100%.
It is not a good time to reinstate a draft when more than 50% of polls I see on the news do not support the "war" in Iraq, or anywhere else for that matter.
And it's not that war is not a good or bad thing, obviously in a perfect world there would be no wars, but this one in Iraq has gotten out of hand.

Eugenia Gabrielov 23-05-2004 23:09

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Good point Elgin, though if there was a debate to start I would cut and run, because I think the debate over Iraq is never going to stop. My question was more, what would you do if drafted, even if you didn't support the war? Fight? Medicine? etc...Engineering? ^^

Joshua May 23-05-2004 23:36

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Yeah, the thought of a draft is something that scares me. This draft bill is set for Spring 2005, and I turn 18 in June 2005. Really I don't support the war (not to make a debate out of this thread), and I my own personal morals are against killing of almost any kind, including war. Also, there is no longer the option of college students being able to "dodge" the draft.

My 2 cents

Scooter 23-05-2004 23:53

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Here is a copy of the actual bill submitted to the senate. A duplicate bill was submitted to the house. Currently, both are pending commitee approvals.

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.89:

-Bill

Jeff Rodriguez 24-05-2004 00:06

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What are the conditions for getting out of the draft/moving lower on the list?
Since I was not alive when the draft was implemented during Vietnam, I am not familiar with the rules. I know you can be excused for medical reasons, and I am aware of something about students. Can somone explain more on the student issue?

If a draft was passed, I would start to 'set things up' in Canada. No, really, I'm not kiding. I'm not going to fight for, what I believe are, the wrong reasons. I'm also not going to jail for the same.


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