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David Kelly 22-06-2004 20:12

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Originally Posted by UlTiMaTeP
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

Slates cover story...

Thank you for posting this. This article does a good job pointing out the inconsistancies of this film and Michael Moore. It is a long read, but it points out a lot of the 'spin' that Michael Moore is good at creating.

Joshua May 22-06-2004 23:22

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6) The American lives lost in Afghanistan have been wasted. (This I divine from the fact that this supposedly "antiwar" film is dedicated ruefully to all those killed there, as well as in Iraq.)

I don't really get what the author of the article is trying to say here. Michael Moore supports the troops in that he wishes no harm to them, they are not the warmongers, one can still believe that their dead have been wasted in an unjust war.

Madison 22-06-2004 23:34

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Originally Posted by David Kelly
Thank you for posting this. This article does a good job pointing out the inconsistancies of this film and Michael Moore. It is a long read, but it points out a lot of the 'spin' that Michael Moore is good at creating.

You praise an article that criticizes a movie you haven't seen, yet you encourage people to view Michael Moore Hates America to assure they are exposed to both sides of the story.

Odd that.

akaria 23-06-2004 11:24

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I have seen a lot of criticism of Michael moor and this movie (mostly by people who haven’t seen it yet) but even the reviewers, such as the article posted earlier, don’t say anything except that moor is full of it, they make little to no reasonable backable arguments as to why he is full of it, they just say he is and expect the people of America to accept what they say as fact, no questions asked.
Before I thought that for sue this wouldn’t work, people want to look it up for themselves and find the truth wherever it may be. But I can see that I am wrong. If you take this one person’s ranting with no proof to back it up as truth… I can’t help you. I just want to say that most of the people on this forum are smart; you should be able to cut through the rhetoric and get to the facts. You are not going to find the truth any other way.

Adam Y. 23-06-2004 12:05

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http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...homepage-promo This I feel happens to be a really good review of the movie. In fact the only thing that the guy critizes is the fact that he makes George Bush look like an idiot for no reason at all.

Joshua May 23-06-2004 12:24

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If it is interpreted to the way it's written it would mean that the war going on Iraq now is entirely faked. Im guessing he means information.

Didn't you get the memo, Iraq doesn't exist because the Earth is flat.

But seriously, good article.

Yan Wang 23-06-2004 12:30

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So far, here's my biggest objection...

WHY IS IT R??!

Joshua May 23-06-2004 12:33

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Originally Posted by Yan Wang
So far, here's my biggest objection...

WHY IS IT R??!

Yeah, I'm 17 but I don't have my Driver's License yet so I can't go see it alone, grr. But Michael Moore encouraged teens to go see it, and even sneak in if they have to ;)

Yan Wang 23-06-2004 12:37

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It is important for 12-16 year olds to be able to see this film and all other documentaries. At an impressionable age, it's good to view something with substance, even if it's from one viewpoint. If I had a kid, I'd rather have him watch Fahrenheit 9/11 rather than Chronicles of Riddick or Garfield! I had the same qualm when Almost Famous was rated R. That was an awesome movie for teenagers.

But luckily my extra liberal town won't care if a 5 year old goes in the theater to see this movie. So I'm really just whining. :)

Adam Y. 23-06-2004 13:08

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It is important for 12-16 year olds to be able to see this film and all other documentaries. At an impressionable age, it's good to view something with substance, even if it's from one viewpoint. If I had a kid, I'd rather have him watch Fahrenheit 9/11 rather than Chronicles of Riddick or Garfield! I had the same qualm when Almost Famous was rated R. That was an awesome movie for teenagers.
Twelve years old is too young. They won't understand a single issue in the movie. I think fifteen and sixteen are probably the right age.

David Kelly 23-06-2004 13:09

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Originally Posted by Yan Wang
So far, here's my biggest objection...

WHY IS IT R??!

Because there is profanity in the movie... it has something to do with somebody's mom :rolleyes:

akaria 23-06-2004 14:11

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Well i read a bunch of reviews on www.imdb.com and from the review thereit looks like people will either love it or hate it, big suprise there :p so far for ratings it has 63% 10s and 30% 1s but from practicly all of the reviews everyone says that it is a must see. i can't wait :) fortunately we'll know pretty soon

D.J. Fluck 23-06-2004 14:40

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Originally Posted by M. Krass
You praise an article that criticizes a movie you haven't seen, yet you encourage people to view Michael Moore Hates America to assure they are exposed to both sides of the story.


Honestly, do you even have to see the movie? Between the fact that most people know about Michael Moore and what he stands for and both sides of the media wasting all their time covering the movie (either previewing it, praising it or criticizing it) I think most of America has pretty much seen the movie already.

Also, if you already have your opinion of Mr. Moore, it’s not like the movie is going to enlighten you or shock you....you know what’s coming.


Too much media hype isn't a good thing, ask Dean. Remember the "device that would change society” that was over hyped by the media and then left many people disappointed when they unveiled the segway? It would absolutely make my day if after all this debate and coverage; people come out of the theatres after seeing it, disappointed.

But that’s all I'm going to say on this subject. Call me what you want and say what you want, but I'm not saying anything else in this thread.

Joshua May 23-06-2004 16:12

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Originally Posted by Adam Y.
Twelve years old is too young. They won't understand a single issue in the movie. I think fifteen and sixteen are probably the right age.

I have to disagree with you that twelve is too young. I have been very political and have kept very up-to-date with politics and news since I was about 10.

Richomundo 23-06-2004 16:14

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well we already know that the whole movie is going to be one big spin. He's a spin doctor(propagandist), just like O Reilly or anyone else that trys to sway your opinion my misrepresenting actions, speeches, foul-ups, or successes of the government. I'ts happened since George Washington and it will happen forever. or at least until the country falls just like every other great society, like the Romans, or the Mayans and stuff.


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