2005 Regionals
 

even if there just rumors, can people post about the new regionals for 2005?

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rochester
purdue
las vegas

At least that's what I've heard

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Waterloo, Ontario, Canada is a definite.

I believe this regional will be held the weekend of Easter Sunday - March 24-26.

Don't worry, Karthik. I got your back!

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Hey... let's give a new twist to this thread. Does anyone know of the "unofficial" dates to next year's regionals?



The Boilermaker Regional is March 17-18-19
Location: West Lafayette, Indiana




Andy B.

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Finger Lakes Regional
march 3-4-5, 2005

Rochester Inst. of Technology's Feild House
Rochester, NY

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I recall reading somewhere on here that there was going to be a regional in Israel in the not-too-far-off future. Something like twelve rookie teams are getting started over there. (I get the sneaking suspicion that they'll be building a field over there. Shipping a field halfway around the world can't be that cost-effective for FIRST.)

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Canadian, oops I mean Greater Toronto regional will be the week after Waterloo. I believe that Philly is the same weekend as Waterloo and also the LA regional the same weekend as Waterloo. Why would I know? I have been asked to work 2 of the regionals and our team is suppose to go to California all on the same weekend.

Remember that none of the above has been confirmed with me from FIRST.

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The NJ Regional at the Soverign Bank Arena, NJ will be held on March 16-18(Unofficial), 2005. Check out NJFIRST.ORG for more info.

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188 coming to the So Cal regional ::: Scared:::::(

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First 69, now 188! Next thing ya know, 71 will come! :eek:

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does anyone know about the las vages regional? so maybe we can go there, and win instead of having these power house outsider team stealing our regional:eek:

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i heard the championships were moving to Indy :yikes:



wait...wrong thread...sorry

anyways...the Purdue University Regional should be fantastic. Think: IRI quality teams at an official regional :)

I guess we just have to hope that hammond and the thunderbots dont' create the SuperAlliance again and run the field. :cool:

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me thinks you need a calendar check on those dates ... and on the website. Thurs thru Sat that weekend is the 17th thru 19th. :o

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Okay, for organizational purposes, here's the very unofficial list according to this thread.

Week 1: Rochester
Week 2:
Week 3: Purdue, New Jersey
Week 4: Waterloo, Philadelphia, Southern California
Week 5: Greater Toronto, Western Michigan

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interesting that you say you would win the lv regional, if there is one ofcourse... well if homefield advantage means anything at a FIRST regional, then i think my team has a pretty good chance. ALSO, did you know your team number is Las Vegas's area code? so WHEN IS FIRST GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE OFFICIAL REGIONALS ALREADY??

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i didnt know that , interesting facts

lol and about homefield... has the chessy poofs , H.Y.P.E.R and team 60 and the gila Monsters taught u Anything?

When will a team from La be the top seed and top Alliance captain?

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Oh Yeah!!! [Getting pumped up 8 months in advance]

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.... and wouldn't ya'll know the week I'm waiting on is that one with the big blank next too it! :yikes:

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Those are really the dates I got, although I am assuming they meant March 17-29. I mantain the NJFIRST.ORG domain, so thats how I got this info. if you are wondering.

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Just out of curiosity, do regionals usually shift weeks from one season to the next?

If not, then it's pretty safe to put Palmetto in Week 5.

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ummm then dont shift to much... some do but most of the time they at lease stay in the same general order as a whole

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In 2003, the Pacific Northwest Regional (In Seattle, WA) was in the 2nd week of regionals.

In 2004, the Pacific Northwest Regional moved to Portland, OR, and was the 1st week of regionals. (It moved to Oregon, because there were more Oregon teams then Washington teams in 2003 :( and it didn't make a whole lot of sense making all of them drive up to Seattle. But in 2004, I think there were about the same number, because we started a whole bunch of new teams in WA :)

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Dates change depending on 2 things. First is the arena availability and second is the field availability. FIRST has only so many fields and they must be shipped around. Because of this they try to balance out the number of regionals on any given weekend. There are also contracts for the venues. These contracts can be for one or multiple years.

I believe that FIRST announces the dates in September but I could be wrong. All of the ducks must be in order before they will announce.

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Here's an updated version reflecting this announcement http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=29832.

Please remember that this list is based rumours and speculation. The regional dates are only official when FIRST publishes them.

Week 1: Rochester
Week 2: Florida
Week 3: Purdue, New Jersey, Long Island
Week 4: Waterloo, Philadelphia, Southern California
Week 5: Greater Toronto, Western Michigan

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Is it just me-or is it kind of pointless to hold 2 regionals within 50 miles of each other on the same weekend? One or the other is gonna go wayy down in attendence.

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from what i have heard the Florida Regional will be March 10-12

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man, we broke. :p


please forgive my poor grammar!

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Not necessarily. If you have an area with enough teams to support 2 regionals worth of teams on the same weekend, then both could be packed. Plus, when you have regionals that are "wayy down in attendance" from local teams, you usually end up with teams traveling from farther away to attend. It's really not a problem to fill two regionals, like that. Almost every regional is filled to capacity each year, no matter what the circumstances.

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or maybe if there are that many teams in one area there could be a super regional like the canadian regional that way you can accomodate all the teams in the area on ONE weekend.....hmmmm just a thought, I know that certain areas are thinking about it...

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Thats probably it, because i remembered hearing talks of NJ possibly becoming a Super Regional. So i guess to take away from that they made LI the same time.

Of course they will both be packed still, but some teams expected at NJ, might go to LI now. :(

And i am pretty sure there wont be any teams traveling to the NJ regional, because the new Midwest regional is happening then, aswell as SOcal happening the weekend after, i doubt any teams do both coasts at once. And Florida is the week before too, so i dont expect them to travel up.

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You've got to remeber that there are actually four regionals within a close radius. New York City, SPBLI, UTC, and the New Jersey regional are all within a close area. So yeah it's probably always been like this for at least three years.I remeber that they held SPBLI and the NYC regional on the same week so it's probably not the reason why. The team map shows it's possible to support three regionals going at once in the same area.

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sorry to be all mean and mad and stuff... but... BOO NEW REGIONALS!!! i mean, i guess its good that First is expanding and everything, but its almost like watering out competition, and teams and matches that may have happened, that made UTC so great, this year IMO, but sadly it only had 36 teams. If there was a way to up that # isntead of kill it down, i think it would make things like Regional Champs mean more. but like i said i guess the expansion is a good thing.

*edit* also with the upping of the prices to attend competitions, some teams might only be able to attend one, instead of two. so that might also kill attendance.

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Somewhere in that mess, I saw you have a point.

As FIRST expands, there will be more teams. These new teams need to compete, this means: more regionals.
Since these new teams are rookies, they (with a few awesome exceptions... Simbots, I'm looking at you) probably aren't as good as the "veterans". What does this mean?

The competitions will see "watered down". That is, you have to look a little harder to find a "stang-class" robot. Will they be any less exciting? Maybe, for a little while....

Here's the kicker: In 5 years, all these "rookies" we've got now, will be up to par with the "Chief Delphi"s of the world... then what?

You got it folks, it'll be a whole new world.

Expansion of FIRST is good because it exposes more students to the INCREDIBLE virtues of this program. Expansion is bad for FIRST because, it becomes more difficult to continue to provide an experience at the same level of previous years. FIRST is growing, and experiencing some growing pains, but overall..... expansion is a good thing. Sky's the limit.
FIRST ROCKS! Seriously.

Did you have any less fun this year at BAE then in previous years? Were the finals at UTC any less exciting than previous years? Heck no!
Did winning UTC mean less this year? Of course not.

FIRST is great, and it's only going to get better.
Especially with all the great people who are already involved, working their butts off to MAKE it better.

I'm excited for the future, and you should be too.

JV

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my only objection to these new regionals that as all of those who already figured out the logistics of it, many things that occur during the First season like Florida teams going to to the Midwestern and Eastern teams going to So cal and so cal teams doing up to North West Regionals and etc. it seem the timing for all these regionals is horrible as its messing around with the diversity of team attendance across the board at the regionals by changing what options they have on what weekend.


-Osc-

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First off, the regional schedule is completely unofficial. Secondly, there are a very large amount of factors when come into play when creating a regional schedule. Many people from all over North America work in conjunction to put one together. They try their best to accommodate the needs of all parties, and do an amazing job. But with almost 1000 teams, 30 cities and venues, it isn't going to be possible to please everyone.

So before you go out and start criticizing, just take a moment to step back and look at the bigger picture.

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http://www.usfirst.org/jrobtcs/FLLmap.jpg

if you look on that image it has the 2005 Planned FRC regionals.
Nevada
Indiana
Ontario
New York

I think we will get official dates from FIRST soon

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I have to agree with J to the Vizzle, but for a different reason.

I'm willing to bet that teams around regional sites wouldn't be in FIRST if it weren't for that regional springing up. I don't know if that's the story of 1293--maybe I'll ask about that sometime. But if we don't get regionals out there to show off what we've got to people, it'll be like a tree falling in the woods with nobody around to hear it. And unlike that classic question, this time it won't make a sound!

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Didn't have time to read through this entire thread but NYC REgional held at Riverbank state park for the last 2 yrs will be back again somewhere between Mar 17 - 19, 2005 or Mar 24 - 26, 2005


Home to see 233 522 and 759 there !!!!! ;-)

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Some FRC Statistics:
For 2004, 929 registered FRC Teams competed in 26 regional with a capacity of 1209 spots. All spots were taken.

280 (1209- 929) spots were taken by teams going to their 2nd and 3rd regional.

The championship had 292 spots. Therefore only 31% of the 2004 teams were able to attend the championship in Atlanta.

**********************************************
For 2005, FIRST anticipates 1100 FRC Teams to compete in 30 regional with a capacity of 1380 (estimated).

280 (1380-1100) spots will be taken by teams going to their 2nd and 3rd regional.

The championship will have 292 (estimated) spots. Therefore only 26% of the 2005 teams will be able to attend the championship in Atlanta.

:yikes:

Dates of 2005 Regionals ?
 

Hey everybody-

I know that FIRST hasn't announced them yet but do any of you kave the dates for the various regionals this coming season? I need to make an agenda for the season to submit to administration. I am especially interested in the events on the east coast since they are within reach of my team.

I can tell you that the NJ Regional is march 17-19, 2005

WC

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The SBPLI Long Island Regional will also be held on March 17-19, 2005.

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Already a thread on this :

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=29520

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thanks- that covers some. I'm especially looking for Annapolis and Va. I hear Philly is Easter weekend?

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Another problem why all the compeitions are close together, atleast in the Northeast, if I'm not mistaken BAE is at Contnetal Arena, UTC is at the CTnow.com Meadows Music Theatre (don't know about NYC or LI).. Those are two major facilities. In Hartford the only places are the Civic Center, which FIRST has to compete with UConn Huskies and Hartford Wolfpack to use, and the meadowlands is a major concert arena that gets some big names to sing there, so FIRST has to work around that. Contnental Arena has to work around the NETs and the Devils. Plus around the country thats NCAA Tournament time at a lot of major buildings. The timeing for these compeitions have major compeitions with facilities between the NBA, NHL, and NCAA all happening at the same time. But with all these new regionals I can see teams leaving the difficult New England/NY/NJ area. Our team is probably an average team in New England but a pretty good team elsewhere. I think a lot of teams might see it that way and a team that would compete in UTC may use the thinking "Why try to beat 175, 176, 177, 157, 237, 782, 228? When we could go to the midwest and compete with teams with a lot less exprience than those guys." I think for the next few years that might also be a reason why competion might go down a little bit.. but thats my opinion which usually isn't right.

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You might want to be careful about going to the Midwest looking for teams with less experience...(thinks of 234, 47, 71, 111...) :ahh:

I still believe that the South will rise again--or for once? I'm not sure.

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Midwest was just the first region that came to mind (nothing against any teams there), and I'm sure theirs always a few new teams that are just awsome right away, but for teams here in the northeast that are only 1-4 years old, we'd stand a better chance outside of here. Even the new teams here are tough, 1071 was part of team 228 probably since their 2nd or 3rd year, and from what I hear in general from some people here we are not the only team like that. Every region has some teams that have a lot of experience or that are fairly new but just hit the nail on FIRST robots, but the odds are a team that is pretty much average in the northeast would do better somewhere else. but that's how I feel and a few of my teammates feel.

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this thread might help you out. although it's silly, and towards the end ended up being midwesterners vs. northeasterners, some good and researched information on the regions of robotics occured in the first few pages, that might help out where your team is looking to go to do better. you might also find some amusement in reading some of the experienced and respected people both in FIRST and CD arguing like schoolkids.

by the way, the midwest seems to be quite the region to beat, but i'm not starting this all up again. :rolleyes: ;)

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NYC FIRST Regional tentative date:

March 31, april 1, 2.
AT Riverbank State Park, Manhattan, NYC.

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This may be a dumb question, but what's the tentative date for 2005 Championships?

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In the past FIRST has avoided Easter Weekend.
I certainly hope that continues and there are no events planned.

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Hey, who can forget about the past 2 years winner of the MWR...45. Hehe :p I think MWR is a very high level comp, that some of the best teams go to. I also think the Purdue Regional will have really stiff compititon this year...I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT!!! It is so close to Kokomo so we don't have to get up at like 2 AM this time. :rolleyes: I hope an all Indiana alliance wins the Purdue Regional...I am thinking 71, 45, 461 or 45,234,292 or really any Indiana combination can do good. Hopefully, Purdue will be more like IRI then the normal regionals.
-Kyle :]

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The last time Easter was in March (2002), FIRST had 3 regionals that weekend. Before that, there were few enough regionals that they could easily work around Easter.

I know they would like to avoid Easter, but I don't think that is feasible.

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Unfortunately when Easter happens to fall in March it's out of FIRST's hands, like this year. Since Easter does fall in March, that means about 1/5 (probably 5 - give or take 1) of the regionals will be held on Easter weekend - nothing they can do about it.

The positive is that now there are MANY more options for teams to choose from than the last time Easter was in March. So at least if any teams decide they just can't compete that weekend (even if it's their "local" or closest event), they will have other regionals in other weeks to choose as an alternate which were not options in the past.

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If the map shows any geographic accuracy, i can tell you now that the 'Nevada' planned 2005 regional would be somewhere near the small town of Tonopah (about 3000 people). There is no other town nearby. Tonopah is about 4 hrs from Las Vegas... I think it would be quite cool to have a regional in LV, show what this city is really about - not just Gambling, Adult Entertainment, and Alcohol. There is a sophisticated side to our ever growing city. I still want to see the official FIRST release... it should be soon i guess...

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april 13-14-15 best guess based on 5 weeks of regionals starting march 3rd with a week break from the last regional

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And, in addition, FIRST regionals run Thursday-Saturday, so you're actually avoiding the Easter holiday itself, anyways.

On that note, my team attended the Midwest Regional on Easter weekend in 2002, and it was actually a good thing (from our school's perspective, at least) because we had that Friday off anyways, and therefore only missed 1 day of school instead of 2. So, there are plusses to having Easter weekend regionals, too.

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The date 21/23-Apr-2005 for Nationals was announced at the Team Forums.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...72&postcount=13
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=28911

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what about the Chesapeake Regional does anyone have info on that regional?

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Superregional. Week of the 14th is when the Academy has the field house blocked off for FIRST.
http://www.usna.edu/Schedules/pdf/000128.pdf

While FIRST may not have annoucened to us yet when they are, many of the venues are already scheduled and have announced what they are holding when.

VCU is a week 1 regional.

Wetzel

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So that makes week 3-Purdue, NJ, Long Island, and Chesapeake.

There goes our plans of going to NJ and Chesapeake. Wouldve been fun to be at a superregional.

And not to go off and start another rant, but i think its a little compacted after adding chesapeake there, because i know of at least 4 teams that wouldve went to NJ and Ches, or possibly LI.

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what is a super regional? what makes it different from a normal regional?

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As far as I know, a superregional is somewhere along the lines of 80 teams and 2 fields, for the moment.

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that is a super regional, 2 fields. Out of 80 team that is some difference competition.

at the final going to be different. like 16 alliances instead of 8?

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Come to Rochester!!! We've had a great time everytime we've been to NJ. We'd love to return the favor. March 3-5, 2005.

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I called the Colonial Center (home to Palmetto) today...the guy there had no knowledge of any booking for the regional.

But he did say that it should be around the same time next year. (I get the sneaking suspicion that he wasn't a FIRSTer. Just a hunch. :D )

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what dates does the first regionals start? I never know these things just how many more weeks.

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Its a possibility- but that would be our first event for the season and might be a trick to convince the school. Do we want a recap of the 2003 NJ final alliance?

WC

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Usually starts on the first or second weekend of March.

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thanks

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The first week of regionals this year is March 3-5.

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It's always great to recreate past partnerships!! And Rochester really could use the influx of Hawaiian shirts come March.

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How do they plan for Chesapeake to be the whole week i thought the regionals were Thursday threw Saturday not Monday threw Friday. or is that just dates to set up and have the competition?

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Anyone know anything for sure about UTC or BAE. We are trying to figure out more info about some regionals and little to nothing has been announced about them.

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I would assume the extra days are for setup. It usually takes a couple days to set up the event, in addition to the 3 days of competition. It's not a surprise they would reserve the venue for the whole week, not just Thursday-Saturday.

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VCU had 62 teams in 2004 and things went pretty much on schedule. A super regional seems a little much unless some of those teams can't afford to go farther away - I know we can't afford to go anywhere except VCU. We were invited to the championship last year and didn't even have the time to raise enough money for the entry fee. Maybe FIRST can make one of the Michigan regionals the same week as VCU so team 33 (Killer Bees) will stay away and we can win and go next year :)

...But I guess since there are more and more teams that can attend multiple regionals its a good thing they can. Maybe we can get to Palmetto eventually. We should start selling donuts now and might have enough in a few years.

------The whole point of this is to say the VCU regional will most likely be the first weekend March 3-5, which Wetzel already said.

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Does anyone know when the Az regional will be/or guess when it will be.

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I'm wondering this too, so I checked out the Canadian Regional results- and it appears like there were 16 alliances. I wonder if the 1st alliance could select any team or if it was divided in two divisions? If so, what a bear- scouting 2 fields and 80 teams. Sounds like fun :P

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At the 2004 Canadian Regional all 75 teams were in one division. This did make scouting, and alliance picking quite the ordeal for the 16 alliance captains. Nevertheless, I would rather this setup over one with two 37-40 team divisions.

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Nothing set in stone yet - but we are looking to be the second week again - FIRST will be posting the schedule as soon as all the contracts are written.

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Okay, given that the dates for the So Cal regional have been announced, here is the updated unofficial schedule so far:

Week 1 (Mar 3-5): Rochester, VCU
Week 2 (Mar 10-12): Florida
Week 3 (Mar 17-19): Purdue, New Jersey, Long Island, Chesapeake
Week 4 (Mar 24-26): Waterloo, Philadelphia
Week 5 (Mar 31-Apr 2): Greater Toronto, Western Michigan, Southern California, NYC
Week 8 (Apr 21-23): Championship Event

I'm really hoping they manage to squeeze NV into week 2.

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[I'm really hoping they manage to squeeze NV into week 2.[/quote]


The rumors I have heard are:

Az 2nd weekend
NV 4th weekend

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I heard from a fairly reliable source the MWR will be Mar 24-26.

Raul

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Has anyone heard anything about Detroit, Great Lakes, or Buckeye?

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heres hoping they dont really have 4 regionals on that week 5. especially socal and toronto. 188's flying down that week to socal, but we would liked to have attended either regional in canada. having back to back ones and then shipping to socal may be a bit of a bother. =T. looks like there isnt anything closer besides rochester

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and whats wrong with rochester? :rolleyes:

i hope it works out for your team and we would be glad to have you here in rochester

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In defence of J Flex 188, who is on our team, I know that he meant that we had few options if that were the case. Some of the mentors have discussed different events and Rochester was high in the running. By looking at the posts so far I believe that 188 will probably be in SoCal week 5 and Greater Toronto week 6. If the team gets to work and raises some funds then we MAY go to a 3rd regional. Will we be at Championships this year? We must qualify, and we must raise more money. $5000.00 US = approx $7800.00 CDN

FYI - Team 188 IS The Force From The North and I know that we want to go to Atlanta to cool down the Hot US teams. ;)

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lol nothing actually ;). you guys have the uh..eastman kodak mueseum.. eastman school of music.. xerox? hehe. plus we would take the fast ferry that was just put into service down there ;)

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heh, sorry about the double post, but just a quick and silly note, as soon as we began talking about rochester, the breeze (the new ferry service that only started this june between toronto and rochester) broke down and they have no clue when it will be back in service. might as well be though, considering that we havent even built a permanent terminal yet :rolleyes:

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Well, so much for the Fast Ferry...

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I should clarify that it didn't quite break down. Instaed, they ran out of money. Theoretically they'll be restarting it soon but I'll believe it when I see it.

Matt

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Maybe they should take it away from CATS and let people who know what they're doing run it.

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cheers :)