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JohnBoucher 29-08-2004 20:09

Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I am curious what luck, good or bad, you had when you installed XP Service Pack 2? Was it worth it? Any of your programs not like it?
I am hearing that there is some tweaking that needs to take place once you commit to it.

Tristan Lall 29-08-2004 20:16

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
No issues on a clean install with my brother's computer. There's always tweaking to do with a new install, but there was nothing particularly unusual.

Cory 29-08-2004 20:38

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I didn't install it.

WPI's network doesn't support it as of yet.

Cory

Nate Smith 29-08-2004 21:01

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I just installed it on one of my 2 XP machines(actually just finished the end-of-install reboot), and no major issues as of yet...Security Center had issues talking to my copy of Norton Antivirus to get its status, but I just told it to ignore it...

Venkatesh 29-08-2004 21:26

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I have been running it for some time (since beta 2149), and I have found that it is excellent. Security features abound, its fast, and I have had no application problems.

My only complaint is that it changed my startup logo, from the XP Home logo to a plain "Windows XP", without a Home or professional.

Kyle Fenton 29-08-2004 21:36

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I have heard that some people had trouble with the iTunes sharing feature. To prevent this you have to open port 3689.

Jeff Rodriguez 29-08-2004 21:48

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I did a fresh install after slipstreaming SP2 into my XP Pro install CD.
I ran the pop-up blocker and firewall through some tests. The pop-up blocker is equivalent to the built-in firefox .9, and the firewall showed no open ports. Much improved. I'm still trying to test it's performance. I understand they changed some things about how it handles memory and stuff. If anyone has more info/links about this it would be much appreciated.
I also tested out the new wireless things. It seems good, unfortunately, I'm using a card that likes to crap out randomly. But I like what I saw.

What has everyone's experience been without doing a clean install, but using the upgradde instead? Does it leave things messy or screw up any programs?

Gary Dillard 30-08-2004 12:01

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I just installed it on all 3 computers at home yesterday and will be test-driving it this week. I installed the upgrade and did minimal work afterwards (Printshop, IE, Outlook) so I didn't expect to find too much wrong yet.

Only 2 comments so far:

1) There was a message I saw somewhere AFTER I installed it that said there were some known compatibility issues with MS wireless network software (which I use). It seems to work OK but I wish they'd told me that BEFORE I installed it.

2) I LOVE the pop-up ad supressor feature. I didn't realize this was available and it makes for much more hassle-free surfing.

Kyle - can you elaborate on the iTunes problem? My son uses this and I'll need to walk him through anything I need to change..

Billfred 30-08-2004 12:44

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
iTunes seems to work for me. But I may be wrong.

I installed it last night. No problems so far--well, Microsoft says only letting them tell me that updates are available (as opposed to automatically downloading and installing them) is a problem, but that's their thing. I like knowing what gets onto my system.

Other than that, nothing noticed on Firefox, VirusScan, and Notepad. (hey, can't knock the hustle.)

Kyle Fenton 30-08-2004 13:11

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
I just installed it on all 3 computers at home yesterday and will be test-driving it this week. I installed the upgrade and did minimal work afterwards (Printshop, IE, Outlook) so I didn't expect to find too much wrong yet.

Only 2 comments so far:

1) There was a message I saw somewhere AFTER I installed it that said there were some known compatibility issues with MS wireless network software (which I use). It seems to work OK but I wish they'd told me that BEFORE I installed it.

2) I LOVE the pop-up ad supressor feature. I didn't realize this was available and it makes for much more hassle-free surfing.

Kyle - can you elaborate on the iTunes problem? My son uses this and I'll need to walk him through anything I need to change..

Well the only Windows computers I have, is at work, and I can't install itunes there. But basically I have heard that the new SP2 firewall blocks a lot of ports and it supposedly blocks port 3689, the port that iTunes uses rendezvous to access other people's playlist. A way to override this is to start control panels->Security Center->Windows Firewall->Exceptions->Add port then type in "Itunes rendezvous" and port 3689.

As far as I know, iTMS works fine without modifications, however I don't know about Radio Stations though.

Just a note that while SP2 has block-up popper, it is not as elegant as Safari's. For example it tells you every time that it has blocked a pop-up add, which is just as annoying as the pop-up. And it block all pop-ups, including ones that you click to activate, like in CNN.

Max Lobovsky 30-08-2004 13:29

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton
Just a note that while SP2 has block-up popper, it is not as elegant as Safari's. For example it tells you every time that it has blocked a pop-up add, which is just as annoying as the pop-up. And it block all pop-ups, including ones that you click to activate, like in CNN.

It's extremely easy to turn that feature off. Every time the notification bar comes up, it says click here for options or something. Click there and just tell it not to pop up any more in the box that appears.

As for SP 2 in general. I had a bad experience. Keep in mind I'm pretty knowledgable with windows (bazillions of installs, repairs, I do it for money...). I can't tell what exactly happened, but it seems to have messed up my permissions. My administrator accounts some how lost there permissions do certain things like edit the registry and other things that an administrator should be able to do. It also seems to have broke Windows Update. I tried uninstalling it, but the bugs persisted, and it did not appear to be uninstalled as that line of text in safe mode still reported that it was SP2. Anyway, I did an inplace install with a slipstreamed SP2 and it is working flawlessly, now.

miketwalker 30-08-2004 14:05

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
Pros:
I personally like the new startup background, more professional and clean.

The security center's built-in firewall I enjoy very much.


Cons:
Since I've installed it my computers been more twitchy and programs like AOL Instant Messenger seem to mess up sometimes where I have to sign off and back on and it starts taking all my CPU power, don't really know why it's doing that but I've never seen that before.

It can be annoying with it's alert if you don't have anti-virus installed (I use Pc-Cillin Housecall cause installed programs like Norton take way way way too many resources for what they're worth) or you don't want Automatic Updates on it keeps bugging you. I disabled the security center from booting up with Windows, but the firewall system still works and asks to allow or disallow programs to connect, so it gives me everything I want.


Overall: I'd definitly recommend using it, I love the built-in firewall system. I am just wary of the fact that it seems to be making the system allocate resources in a way that it causes issues... but this might be a simple thing they'll patch quickly (I hope) or a clean install would fix.

Max Lobovsky 30-08-2004 14:20

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miketwalker
Pros:
The security center's built-in firewall I enjoy very much.

SP 2 did not introduce the firewall. It upgraded it significantly and turns it on by default to make sure the majority of users will use it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miketwalker
Pros:
Cons:
Since I've installed it my computers been more twitchy and programs like AOL Instant Messenger seem to mess up sometimes where I have to sign off and back on and it starts taking all my CPU power, don't really know why it's doing that but I've never seen that before.

It can be annoying with it's alert if you don't have anti-virus installed (I use Pc-Cillin Housecall cause installed programs like Norton take way way way too many resources for what they're worth) or you don't want Automatic Updates on it keeps bugging you. I disabled the security center from booting up with Windows, but the firewall system still works and asks to allow or disallow programs to connect, so it gives me everything I want.

Those may not be two unrelated issues. Processes taking 100% CPU resource for seemingly no reason is often caused by a virus. I suggest you try some other virus scanners.

All of the modern resident anti-virus programs I have tried really take minimal resources on a 1+ Ghz machine. They usually add mere seconds to startup. They are also extremely effective. On a machine with an updated resident virus protection program, I have seen a single virus.

Ryan M. 30-08-2004 15:55

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher
I am curious what luck, good or bad, you had when you installed XP Service Pack 2? Was it worth it? Any of your programs not like it?
I am hearing that there is some tweaking that needs to take place once you commit to it.

Don't know if it was worth it yet, but you might as well. It doesn't really change anything, and you get a popup bloker built into IE! :D

Tom Bottiglieri 30-08-2004 16:05

Re: Installed XP Service Pack 2 yet?
 
I installed it and restarted. When I restarted my compy didnt seem to want to boot. I got to where it said "windows xp: please wait a few minutes" or something like that. i waited like a half hour and still nothing. so i just turned it off and hoped for the best. it booted correctly the next time and i havent had any problems since. but, i am noticing some programs arent working quite up to par, and alot are running slowly and crashing sometimes, like AIM.


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