Re: Bosch Motors
 

Familiarity with the motors is what I meant. All new motors means we all have to figure out how to use them and their capabilities from scratch. I am for this because I want FIRST to throw us a curve ball this year.

Re: Bosch Motors
 

It looks like the reason FIRST is dropping the Bosch drills is that Bosch no longer makes a 1/2" 12V drill. I'm hoping they go with something like the DeWalt DC980KA motor and transmission. Three speeds would be nice, as would a 4:1 ratio between high and low gears.

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I for one would like to see the jump to a 24 volt electrical system...MORE POWER! :D and yea, with less current, the wire size can decrease, and we can have more weight for the bigger motors! or other functional devices.

Re: Bosch Motors
 

This is true...however, consider this:

Which is lighter, an extra battery (or the difference between the current batteries and a 24v version) or the extra wire required to handle the current current?

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ok ok, you got me. we probably wont be seeing any savings in weight going to a 24 volt system. :o but think about the extra power, and what we could do with it! :cool:

Re: Bosch Motors
 

then technically, you dont need to stick to what motors are in the KOP.

Electric car motor, here i come. :cool:

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The guy @ Bosch said that FIRST is getting some third party company to "design" them a motor....i don't know how credible it is, but it is worth mentioning

Re: Bosch Motors
 

Source? I'm really, really, interested where you heard that. If it were true it would be VERY interesting :cool:

Re: Bosch Motors
 

Though I can't comment on the credibility of that source, that's more or less what seems to have happened with the CIM motor. In 2002 we had a version of that motor manufactured for Atwood. Subsequently, CIM supplied a FIRST-specific version using the same enclosure, but with a different shaft (and possibly slightly different internals).

Re: Bosch Motors
 

ahh....interesting

hopefully they will make the pinion standard instead of metric.....or what the heck just give us a shaft with a keyway on it.

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and I wonder why this stuff is in the rumor mill...

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Errr... It would be a bit of a waste of money to have a company design a motor... I mean the CIM output isn't that much to do, especially if you're doing bulk. But design? That takes a bit of money to do. I don't know about you, but I would like it if the kit of parts would cost less this year, seeing as one of my teams is almost dead broke. Registration fees are hard enough to pay.

However if it's just modifying a known motor to be FIRST specific, thats not too bad. How about a keyed shaft? :D

Re: Bosch Motors
 

ehh.. id go with an electric airplane motor. like the so called solar powered HELIOS.

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I don't know, I work for Sears, I will ask one of my managers.

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You don't need to ask about drills... we won't have them this year.

FIRST (accidentally?) didn't encrypt the part of the manual that lists what motors FIRST will have available at events, and drills of any kind were'nt in there