FIRST ROBOTICS 2004 - Discovery Channel
 

This years edition of FIRST Robotics 2004 will air on the discovery science channel on Fri Oct, 1 at 9:00 pm. It will also rebroadcast on Thurs Oct, 7 at 8:00 pm. Tune In!

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Cool... Thanks for the heads up.

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Is that just going to be a summary of all the teams? Or is it more focusing on just one team? Where was the footage taken?

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In 2003, they followed three teams around through the build season and their regionals and the championships. I assume the same will happen with this one.

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Well, I don't think I've ever seen something like this. So it'll be the first time ... thank you for the news! ;)

I'm going to put it in my calendar! :yikes:

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Could this be the same as the one on TechTV since G4 bouth out TechTV and dropped the show? Probably not, but still, I'm going to watch.

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I don't think it'll be the TechTV show...I remember seeing folks with Discovery Channel credentials on Archimedes.

I'm so showing this to the folks here in Preston. They all seem mildly interested by FIRST, so this should be a better intro than trying to explain a match video (not that that's a bad thing).

Are we going to see any video of the One-Day Wonder?

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I have a digital copy of the 2003 Discovery Science Channel program but it is like 500 mb. If anyone really wants it I suppose I can see how small I can make it but I would still need a place to put upload it to.

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Thanks for the update. Just one question, are the times eastern? So I can adust accordingly for me here on the west coast.

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Somenoe said G4 and TeckTV dropped the FIRST show...umm, not really sure what you meant but I watched this year's competition on TechTV after G4 bought them.....i have it recorded and the G4 logo is in the corner...

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The times are eastern and once again they have followed three teams around.

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After the merger, the series Let Er Rip was dropped from programming. The show on FIRST 2004 was the only Let Er Rip show to air. It aired just prior to the merger when the two logos were being displayed and in commercials. To my knowledge the show has not aired at all since the merger. If Discovery is doing something, it's a different show.

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wait...does anyone know if this will be broadcasted overseas??? or exclusively in the U.S??

we've got directv therefore the Discovery Channel as well but i'm not sure we get any live broadcasts...usually takes at least a week...

if anyone can help, thanks!!

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Keep in mind that this is not on the Discovery Channel but on the Discovery Science Channel... two different things.

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Ugghh.. Yeah, after seeing this thread about 5 times I finally realized that.

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ohh yeah...now i'm uncertain as to whether we have the discovery SCIENCE channel...?!?!?! oh well

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I know that iff you have DirecTV and the "total choice package" you get Discovery Science Channel. On my DirecTV system it just says "The Science Channel" in the lovely guide but the channel is really "The Discovery Science Channel" It is somewhere in the 200s by the regular Discovery Channel.

I know that last year they followed 3 teams and only focused on those three... they also failed to mention the Chairmans award winner, Woodie Flowers winner, and the National Champions, they just stopped when the teams they followed got knocked out.

I hope this year is a little less dissappointing!

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I remember in nationals at team 56 pit there was a someone taping them and asking them questions. After they were done i asked someone on the team who was that and what is the deal with the camera. They answered that it is the discovery channel and they are taping them and i think the other team was 102 (not sure about this). With this deal for taping them that the team would have to build another robot after nationals. I never found out if they build a second robot or not, but i think team 56 and or 102might be on that program. once again i am not sure but i remember that in national with team 56.

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The second team you mentioned should be 1002, the Circuitrunners.

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Yes one of the teems is definitely 1002, i remember that much. :rolleyes:

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The Discovery Science channel on dish is channel 193 listed as Scien

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Anyone seen confirmation on this? No news from FIRST and The Science Channel isn't advertising it. Of course The Science Channel also does not have October's schedule posted on its website.

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Here's the complete schedule for FIRST Robotics 2004 on the Science Channel (EST):

Oct 01 2004
@ 09:00 PM

Oct 02 2004
@ 12:00 AM

Oct 02 2004
@ 05:00 AM

Oct 02 2004
@ 08:00 AM

Oct 02 2004
@ 01:00 PM

Oct 02 2004
@ 04:00 PM

Oct 07 2004
@ 08:00 PM

Oct 07 2004
@ 11:00 PM

Oct 08 2004
@ 04:00 AM

Oct 08 2004
@ 07:00 AM

Oct 08 2004
@ 12:00 PM

Oct 08 2004
@ 03:00 PM

Here's the link: http://science.discovery.com/schedul...=0&channel=SCI

Team 56 from Bound Brook, New Jersey and Team 1002 from Atlanta, Georgia are among the featured teams, but I'm not sure who the third team is, or even if there's a third team featured, as the Science Channel promotes.

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I'd really like to have video of any professional video on FIRST. The only video my team has of the events is an amazingly dull camcorder video of other teams competing. If any body could assist, please e-mail:
Skiguy523@sbcglobal.net

Thank You Much

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Mark,

Thanks for the heads up. This was no doubt the best hour of FIRST coverage I've seen, but then again I'm a bit biased. It was well done and would be a great video for any school or potential sponsor to watch to get the feel of what FIRST is all about.

It explained all the basics about the program (what we do, how much time we don't have, etc.) and covered the teams quite well. It also captured the excitement and emotion that was present in Atlanta pretty well.

I also like that they referred to us as the "guardian angles". What a complement! Being a part of your team and the One Day Wonder was truly one of the highlights of my 4 years in FIRST. I will never forget it.

Jay TenBrink
Engineering Coach
494 Goodrich Martians

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It's ironic that all 3 teams they ended up following ended up in Archie. The story of 1396 was particularly inspiring.
I would still like to see a Real World like show following the trails and tribulations of 1 team throughout a whole year. That would also serve as a good road map for rookie teams to see what is reqired for a FIRST team to function. Just showing brief highlights of the build process and competition sells FIRST short of what it truly is.

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I second that. Even thought I knew the final outcome I couldn't help but wonder what was going to happen next. Discovery did an excellent job with the footage. I remember going into the match with 1396. Their enthusiasm was infectious. You would have never known the troubles they had gone through at the competition to compete. Great job again 1396!

...Ryan's bloody nose was priceless:)

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anyone want to record it then bit-torrent it for me?

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well i guess it turned out to be a good show-- i don't have that channel so i missed it-- glad they did a good job always nice for FIRST to have some coverage


if they did a real world of a team-- that'll be cool-- hard to pick what team though to show rookies--some teams where they live they have better funding and support-- all well it's a good idea though

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just like greg said... is there anyone who would like to record it for us? we would really appreciate it... :)

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I've got it saved on my satellite's hard drive, but the problem is that i'm not sure how i'd get it off the hard drive and to the internet. If somebody would be able to PM me on how to do this i might be able to get it to you, but at this time the furthest it looks like it's going to get is to VHS.

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VHS here too. I'll see what I can do.

Also, I think DCAFan was on the show, not sure though.

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I missed it yesterday because I had to watch "Hope & Faith" on ABC at the same time for a project in class. I'll probably record it on Thursday and show it at the next team meeting as an introduction to prospective and new members.

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i saw my team's robot on there a few times
YEAH GO B.O.B

I could really use a copy of the program if any one has it and can send me a copy i would really appreciate it. I want to use it at my teams recruiting meeting this Thursday.

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for people with tivo machines...the hard drives are regular IDE and you can just take them out and connect them to your comp then drag and drop....i already made arangements to get a copy but for other people that might work

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i hear team 237 was on there quite a bit for beating up that little bot in nationals.....aye :yikes: :rolleyes: will have to watch it thursday

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They showed 237 blocking out 1002 and stopping them from winning a crucial match.

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Cool.. Very nice. Thanks for the update Ed, now I definately have to watch this.


Btw, I know someone uploaded the Discovery Special last year for DL, can someone do that again this year? Even if it for only a week or so if bandwidth is a concern. I have last years, and would like this year's too..

Thanks Much!

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I have the 600 meg entire show saved on my HD. Recorded it to VHS then used my bros tuner card to record it to my comp. Its good quality (640x480). So if you want it IM me one AIM or PM me on the forums. :)

AIM: coltfive2seven

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I have a BT tracker on our team's website.

If I can get it, it should work.

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can we have a link to the torrent. once i get it dled i will help seed

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Would anyone mind hosting it (even temporarily) on a not BitTorrent source? Many people on university networks are blocked from accessing BitTorrent.

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Do you have a DishNetwork PVR or a DirecTivo? If so, if you remove the hard drive and plug it into your computer, you can access the recordings. To convert them to a standard format, you will need an additional piece of software.

If it is a DishNetwork PVR, sign up for the DishRip Yahoo group and read through the files section. There are several pieces of software that can convert video from the DishPVR format to MPEG2

If it is a DirecTivo, download DVRchive, which will convert from TiVo format to MPEG2.

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I'm considering converting it to mpg or mov, but it depends on time. I'm still thinking about it and depends on my homework load. Now I just need to find a host. Anyone up to it just send me a PM.

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I have it on TIVO and need to buy blank videos to play it at robotics, then I have the capability to put it to cd and on web, but need husband's help to do that and his time to help is rare.

I can however easily host it if someone sends me an mpg.

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I watched the show on Friday and really enjoyed it! I that the storys in there were cool! It was also cool seeing my brother on TV! :)

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we can host the video off our website if you need space or something....we have 2000mbs of space and unlimited bandwidth

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I can help host it. I have a dedicated webserver with lots of space and bandwidth.

BTY, what is BitTorrent mean? Sorry, never heard that one used before...

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Bit torrent is something like a peer-peer file transering program. Where once one person downloads it, they will share the load if other ppl try and download the same file. At least that is my understanding of it. :)

It would be very appreciated if you hosted the file for me. :) If you could sign on to AIM I would send it to you. :]

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BitTorrent is a protocol designed for transferring files. It is peer-to-peer in nature, as users connect to each other directly to send and receive portions of the file. However, there is a central server (called a tracker) which coordinates the action of all such peers. The tracker only manages connections, it does not have any knowledge of the contents of the files being distributed, and therefore a large number of users can be supported with relatively limited tracker bandwidth. The key philosophy of BitTorrent is that users should upload (transmit outbound) at the same time they are downloading (receiving inbound.) In this manner, network bandwidth is utilized as efficiently as possible. BitTorrent is designed to work better as the number of people interested in a certain file increases, in contrast to other file transfer protocols.

One analogy to describe this process might be to visualize a group of people sitting at a table. Each person at the table can both talk and listen to any other person at the table. These people are each trying to get a complete copy of a book. Person A announces that he has pages 1-10, 23, 42-50, and 75. Persons C, D, and E are each missing some of those pages that A has, and so they coordinate such that A gives them each copies of the pages he has that they are missing. Person B then announces that she has pages 11-22, 31-37, and 63-70. Persons A, D, and E tell B they would like some of her pages, so she gives them copies of the pages that she has. The process continues around the table until everyone has announced what they have (and hence what they are missing.) The people at the table coordinate to swap parts of this book until everyone has everything. There is also another person at the table, who we'll call 'S'. This person has a complete copy of the book, and so doesn't need anything sent to him. He responds with pages that no one else in the group has. At first, when everyone has just arrived, they all must talk to him to get their first set of pages. However, the people are smart enough to not all get the same pages from him. After a short while they all have most of the book amongst themselves, even if no one person has the whole thing. In this manner, this one person can share a book that he has with many other people, without having to give a full copy to everyone that's interested. He can instead give out different parts to different people, and they will be able to share it amongst themselves. This person who we've referred to as 'S' is called a seed in the terminology of BitTorrent.

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I just wanted to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for all the help and encouragement you have provided along the way. We, as a rookie team, learned what gracious professionalism was really about. I especially want to thank Jay for your heartwarming comment, and likewise we will never forget the help received from The Martians.

On a lighter note... i have the show recorded through a home theater PC so its super high quality (the mpeg is bout 1.4g). Anyone who has unlimited bandwidth and wants to host it im me (AIM): xxmaddjxx

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Thanks for explaining BIT TORRENT. I am online now with AIM "chakorules".

I can host the file normally, with a link. I hope that is what you need. I don't have any BIT TORRENT software, nor does it sound like I really want it either. I would have to reconfigure my firewall etc...could get yucky.

But I am willing to post it for download on my server for any bandwidth leechers :D :D :D

Just don't kill my server. It's connected to a DS3 line, so it should be able to handle most requests.

I'll delete it after awhile.

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I have installed AIM. I'll try to be on today. My screenname is Neo3DGfx. Now I should sleep... But I'm on AIM anyway... :rolleyes:

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Team THRUST ( #1501 ) has graciously hosted my 600 meg recording of this show. It can be found at

<<link removed>>

Its a .wmv so you need windows media player (not movie maker).

Thanks again Team #1501! :)

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woohoo!

Thanks 527Paranoia & Team 1501!!

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Thank you to 527 and rookies of 2005 1501!!! d/l now at an awsome 300 kb/s!!! only 30 min!!! thanks a lot guys!!!

*im d/l it just to see us (121) lose to the one day bot again =P

EDIT - wathcing it now... great quality!!! minus the snowy sound but i cant complain... its awomse!!!

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excelent qualtiy, what a great show!

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Not to be a wet blanket here or anything, but you do all realize that you are engaging in piracy, don't you? What you are doing is a blatently illegal activity.

The Discovery Science Channel broadcast of "FIRST Robotics: The Frenzy" is a commercial broadcast, and it is not in the public domain. The Discovery Science Channel retains all right to the material in that broadcast, including all content, intellectual property, and rebroadcasting rights. It is their program, and they have not given any FIRST teams permission to capture it, store it, or make it available to anyone else. The Discovery Science Channel retains all the rights to that show, and we are honor-bound to respect those rights.

Yes, it is a really cool show. Yes, lots of us want to see it. Yes, folks are "only trying to help" by making copies of it available on the web for those that did not get to see the broadcast. But the fact is making an illegal copy of a broadcast program and posting it for public download is an illegal act, no matter how well intentioned you may be.

You have two options if you missed this show: watch the show on the Discovery Science Channel (it is being broadcast again on October 7 and 8), or obtain a legal, licenced copy from a permitted source (e.g. buy a copy from the Discovery Science Channel).

If you have captued the show and are hosting it for download, you are infringing on the rights of the Discovery Science Channel to control and distribute material that they - not you - own. You are committing piracy of a copyrighted product, and you are breaking the law. If you are downloading the show from one of these sources to view it, then - there is no nice way to say this - you are a thief. Modifiers such as "it is only a little thing" or "everybody is doing it" or "it's not for me, it's for the team" or "I wouldn't buy it anyway" or "I'm not selling it to make any money" don't make any difference - you are a theif.

Is this the type of behaviour that we should expect from you and your teams in the future? Is this the way you make your grandmother proud?

Is this what you have all learned from your FIRST experience?

-dave

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Your welcome! My server is on a DS3 connection. Hopefully it's fast enough. ;-)

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Dave's got a good point. We are pulling the link. Sorry.