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Re: Who won the U.S. Presidential Debate? (Sept. 30)
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I was undecided but I'm more for Bush now... All I hear is that Kerry has all these huge plans for our country, such as new jobs, new programs, more tax cuts, better weapons, more this, more that, spend spend spend... Where is Kerry going to get all this money? He can't... Not to mention as he talks big about these huge plans for us he has yet to inform us on what they are... I'd like to know what he plans to do (and is consistent with his plans) before I give him power as commander and chief... |
Re: Who won the U.S. Presidential Debate? (Sept. 30)
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Re: Who won the U.S. Presidential Debate? (Sept. 30)
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Re: Who won the U.S. Presidential Debate? (Oct. 8)
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Thanks for the award! Though not exactly the Lady Bing, I’ll take it. I’m not sure about the Canadian definition, but here, common is sense taken to mean: Main Entry: common sense Function: noun : sound and prudent but often unsophisticated judgment On the other hand, I understand where you’re coming from. By virtue of living most all of my life within range of the CBC, I have seen many instances where it could be interpreted as the opinion of fools. Unfortunately, more than ever, we now see the same kind of socialist non-sense coming from ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN. Apparently, you have missed the true theme of my post, which is understandable. Most every child in America has been introduced to the writings of one of our Founding Fathers, Thomas Paine, collectively entitled: “Common Sense.” It was a dog-gone dirty trick on my part to have the reader recall that subconscious wisdom in comparison to the rhetoric from both sides today. So, to bring you up to speed, here are a few examples. Do you notice any parallels; and to which side they would most likley apply? A little matter will move a party, but it must be something great that moves a nation. A nation under a well regulated government, should permit none to remain uninstructed. It is monarchical and aristocratical government only that requires ignorance for its support. - Rights of Man, 1792 He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. - Dissertation on First Principles of Government, December 23, 1791 If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. - The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it. - The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 Quote:
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Re: Who won the U.S. Presidential Debate? (Oct. 8)
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I happily grant that you share many views with Thomas Paine (such as fighting force with force, and not judging a nation until you've experienced the same hardships as that nation) but to say that your post was thematically enriched by the substance of his essay is going a little too far. Indeed, you argue ad hominem against Kerry and his wife, denigrating them based on unfounded speculation and convenient proverbs. That is not the spirit of Thomas Paine; that's simply bad form and bad logic in a civilized debate. Quote:
But, since you provided quotations, I digress. Quote:
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Secondly, on average, we pay less for the same cars than you do. Quote:
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Returning to Paine, there's an unflattering angle on this whole war affair. One could argue that, as the weaker people, the Iraqis are in a similar position to the colonial Americans. But of course, that casts America as the evil empire. Perhaps the insurgent leaders should take the advice of one of their kind, and apply it to their dealings with America. After all, if we're to note the parallels, why not be fair and balanced about it? |
Re: Who won the U.S. Presidential Debate? (Sept. 30)
Apparently one of us thinks this tread was a call for opinion as to who won the U.S. Presidential debate and the other thinks it was really a call to debate the debate. I will leave it to you to debate ad infinitum. At the end of the day on November 2nd we will find that one of our opinions mattered and the other’s $0.02 wasn’t worth the $0.0158 of the current exchange. In other words, we will not find a Lall in the action! :)
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