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Andrew 30-09-2004 23:31

How many teams in 2005?
 
So, registration is open. We're less than a day into it and there are already 320 teams registered.

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro...-max=all&-find

Last year, we got close to 1000 teams.

Does anyone want to speculate on how many teams will compete this year?

I'm going to guess 1070.

It looks like the first rookie team number for 2005 is 1498. Will we reach team number 1700?

Greg Needel 30-09-2004 23:36

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
i think we will only reach like 1620.....i will be really supprised if we reach 1700.....happu, but still supprised

tkwetzel 30-09-2004 23:39

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I am going to guess that we will have 1110 teams this year.

Also, I made a few observations about the list:
Did anyone else notice the concentration of the rookie teams?
7 of the 24 new teams so far are located in Michigan. While NewYork and New Hampshire together have another 7 new teams.

There are also very few teams signed up that would be in their second year. The first 100 teams on the list takes us up to team number 291. While there are only 42 teams between team numbers 1200-1500. Either many of last year's rookie teams are slow to register or they just aren't coming back. While there are still many teams that have been around for a much longer time.

Just some small observations.

Arefin Bari 30-09-2004 23:50

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkwetzel
I am going to guess that we will have 1110 teams this year.

or maybe more? the way FIRST is growing i wonder how many team we would have in another 5 years maybe 3000 teams... wow... getting into nationals is gonna be very hard... :ahh:

dez250 30-09-2004 23:56

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I say for the 2005 year about 1300 teams that actually compete.

Billfred 01-10-2004 00:28

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I'm going to say 1293 teams compete. (I swear, that's my real guess.)

As for team numbers, I'm going to say we'll easily hit 1700. Maybe 1800.

George1902 01-10-2004 02:28

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I say 975 total teams. That's right, I'm the first one to guess that the total will go down. ::gasp::

I think the highest rookie number will be 1603.

I feel like the guy on The Price Is Right guessing $1.

Denman 01-10-2004 05:28

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
i'm going to go a number involving the number 2.... so i'm going to say 1024 + 256 teams = 1280.. just because i like binary :rolleyes:

highest rookie? maybe 1586 (because i feel totally random around that area)

Andrew 01-10-2004 11:38

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Here we are on day 2 and there are about 390 teams with the highest rookie team at about 1530.

Vin211 01-10-2004 12:18

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I don't think its going to be reach over 750. I know its a significant decrease from last year. I believe that a lot of teams are calling it quits due to money issues. It is difficult to get someone to donate to a worthy cause these days, you know with the economy the way it is. These things happen. So I stand at my guess of about 750 - 800 range. I know shocking!

Cory 01-10-2004 13:07

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin211
I don't think its going to be reach over 750. I know its a significant decrease from last year. I believe that a lot of teams are calling it quits due to money issues. It is difficult to get someone to donate to a worthy cause these days, you know with the economy the way it is. These things happen. So I stand at my guess of about 750 - 800 range. I know shocking!

Absolutely not. That's saying we'll lose over 200 teams that competed last year, and not a single rookie will register.

I dont see any way we have less than last year, and I'm betting we'll get 100-200 rookies

av11d 02-10-2004 00:31

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I think we'll have a total of about 975 teams this year. Rookie #s will reach 1800.

Total guess. It's going to be really close on whether we break 1,000 I think.

Koko Ed 02-10-2004 09:08

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
We'll reach about 1100 teams this season. The numbers will get up around 1900 maybe even 2000.

phrontist 02-10-2004 13:24

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Holy Cow, I'm hyperventilating!
There are only 54 spots open at VCU this year! 64 showed up last year! We're not registered! We don't have our $500 deposit yet! Rookies Everywhere! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!

:eek:

Andrew 04-10-2004 16:14

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Monday sees us over 500 teams.

tkwetzel 05-10-2004 01:18

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Will Michigan host 100 teams this year?

They are up to 70 already!

Cory 05-10-2004 01:29

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkwetzel
Will Michigan host 100 teams this year?

They are up to 70 already!

Michigan was over 100 last year, I believe.

CA and Michigan trade the lead. I want to say CA had 96 last year and Michigan had slightly more than 100

tkwetzel 05-10-2004 01:36

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I didn't think that MI had more than 100 teams last, though you are most likely right.

And as of right now, CA is only at 41 teams.

Denman 05-10-2004 09:06

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
519 teams signed up at this point... going strong
highest rookie 1538 @ vegas

Manoel 06-10-2004 12:43

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
555 teams and the newest rookie is from England...
Team 1542, exscitec/Imperial College & Issac Newton Centre, from London. Pretty cool! :D

LBK Rules 06-10-2004 19:09

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
2nd-year teams, especialy non-school ones, probably won't get in early. I'm on one.

Doug G 07-10-2004 19:35

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I bet it will be just over a 1000 teams, maybe 1100 tops. The $500 deposit is probably keeping some financially strapped teams from signing up immediately. I bet the second/third round of sign-ups will vastly show the difference between the teams with and without $$. Those with $$ in their coffers will sign up ASAP.

Alex Cormier 07-10-2004 21:25

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
i wanna say 1126 with the highest number at 1773

Tyler 783 07-10-2004 23:51

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Unlike all of you pecifist's i'm going to say 1300 a fair increase from last year. And about those people who are saying that there are going to be alot of teams folding this year I have one thing to say to you. Last week my team was going to be one of those teams that was going to be folding but due to my tierless efforts in the last month we have almost everything we need to compete (minus the robot of course) and anything we don't have I know we will eventualy get (Like the Robot). I beleive that there is a person like me on every team out there that is threatening to fold and they will do whatever it takes to make sure their team doesn't fold.

Just had to get that out I just found out 2 hours ago that my team wasn't going to fold. Hope to see you all in Atlanta!!

RoboMom 08-10-2004 07:30

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug G
The $500 deposit is probably keeping some financially strapped teams from signing up immediately. .

I believe the $500 deposit is not for the first sign-up. Just for the subsequent regional sign-ups.

Each teams' first payment is due at the same time. $6000 on Dec. 3.

Andrew 13-10-2004 11:49

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Looks like new team registration has really slowed. There are about 640 teams on Oct. 13. With the second event open deadline approaching (28 October), it will be interesting to see how many regionals fill up (and therefore limit more new teams showing up).

Koko Ed 14-10-2004 15:50

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
OK. It needs to be asked.
Where's the BBS?

Andrew 18-10-2004 15:15

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Looks like we're almost up to 700 teams on 10/18

733 - 35 (CMP) - 1(generico) = 697

omutton 19-10-2004 19:44

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Is there a list of all the retired team numbers? Also, what is the link for the list of teams signed up? I think that the highest rookie number this year will be 1624.....random, but who knows?

mgreenley 19-10-2004 20:17

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
(Checked USFIRST on Oct 19th; 7:56 pm East Coast Time)
753 teams total. It's slowing down, but I expect that its just a lull and will pick up. Congratulations to team 1568 for being the newest member of the FIRST community this year and I hope I see you guys at Nationals (lots of newer teams have some unusually creative solutions to the game)!
After reading the list, has anyone else noticed double-registrations? I can understand a 2 team school maybe, but two identical registrations with the same team number...just a glitch? (And the Israel regional went from 14 teams of a 14 team capacity to a 0 of 0 and you get an error when you search it now...).
By the way, the double-registered teams (I saw) are 47, 53, 71, 103, 116, 120, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 241, 401, 451, 499, 616, 812, 829, 843, 972, 1022, 1083, 1104, 1137, 1208, 1216. Are these teams that are signed up for more than one regional and it lists you twice (or three times, etc...), there seems to be a lot of teams for it to be just a random database error.

Michael "The Crate Guy" Greenley, Team 341

P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).

Koko Ed 19-10-2004 20:27

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgreenley
(Checked USFIRST on Oct 19th; 7:56 pm East Coast Time)
753 teams total. It's slowing down, but I expect that its just a lull and will pick up. Congratulations to team 1568 for being the newest member of the FIRST community this year and I hope I see you guys at Nationals (lots of newer teams have some unusually creative solutions to the game)!
After reading the list, has anyone else noticed double-registrations? I can understand a 2 team school maybe, but two identical registrations with the same team number...just a glitch? (And the Israel regional went from 14 teams of a 14 team capacity to a 0 of 0 and you get an error when you search it now...).
By the way, the double-registered teams (I saw) are 47, 53, 71, 103, 116, 120, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 241, 401, 451, 499, 616, 812, 829, 843, 972, 1022, 1083, 1104, 1137, 1208, 1216. Are these teams that are signed up for more than one regional and it lists you twice (or three times, etc...), there seems to be a lot of teams for it to be just a random database error.

Michael "The Crate Guy" Greenley, Team 341

P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).

I think the double registered teams are teams that have registered for the championship.

tkwetzel 19-10-2004 22:20

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omutton
Is there a list of all the retired team numbers? Also, what is the link for the list of teams signed up? I think that the highest rookie number this year will be 1624.....random, but who knows?


Quote:

Originally Posted by mgreenley
P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).

omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?

Billfred 19-10-2004 22:28

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
As far as I know, yes, a returning team would keep its number. And any other status, such as being a 1992 team, Chairman's, etc. (The 1992 team thing is from WildStang, which took 1993 off if memory serves me right.)

rachakate 19-10-2004 23:15

Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...
 
30, 35, 70, 97, 102, 104, 118, 140, 167, 203, 235, 249, 253, 256, 258, 259, 276, 311, 321, 322, 373, 374, 391, 398, 410, 434, 441, 442, 443, 444, 446, 448, 449, 480, 492, 507, 535, 550, 569, 570, 581, 588, 598, 605, 606, 611, 634, 642, 644, 649, 651, 653, 660, 665, 668, 670, 675, 692, 695, 698, 704, 713, 752, 758, 762, 764, 765, 769, 770, 772, 773, 780, 781, 782, 824, 825, 827, 831, 834, 852, 861, 866, 875, 878, 879, 880, 883, 884, 888, 898, 902, 906, 908, 912, 913, 919, 931, 933, 937, 938, 940, 942, 943, 948, 953, 954, 959, 964, 966, 968, 970, 973, 979, 982, 992, 997, 998, 1005, 1010, 1011, 1017, 1030, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1040, 1043, 1045, 1046, 1049, 1055, 1056, 1058, 1059, 1064, 1067, 1072, 1075, 1081, 1082, 1088, 1098, 1100, 1106, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1120, 1122, 1125, 1131, 1133, 1136, 1141, 1144, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1152, 1158, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1169, 1182, 1185, 1187, 1191, 1201, 1204, 1206, 1210, 1214, 1215, 1221, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1228, 1229, 1232, 1239, 1248, 1255, 1259, 1260, 1263, 1274, 1281, 1287, 1290, 1292, 1294, 1295, 1296, 1297, 1298, 1299, 1300, 1308, 1309, 1311, 1312, 1315, 1324, 1325, 1329, 1331, 1332, 1334, 1338, 1339, 1342, 1343, 1347, 1352, 1356, 1361, 1364, 1365, 1368, 1380, 1387, 1391, 1393, 1395, 1401, 1406, 1409, 1411, 1412, 1416, 1419, 1420, 1425, 1426, 1427, 1428, 1429, 1430, 1432, 1433, 1437, 1439, 1441, 1442, 1448, 1453, 1455, 1456, 1459, 1461, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1466, 1467, 1470, 1472, 1475, 1476, 1477, 1478, 1479, 1481, 1482, 1484, 1485, 1489, 1490, 1492, 1495, 1496, 1497


Wow - That's a lot of teams that Raised the Bar, but haven't signed up to participate this year.

Billfred 19-10-2004 23:45

Re: Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...
 
435 isn't registered for anything?

Hope everything's alright up there--it'd be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!

rachakate 20-10-2004 00:08

Re: Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred
435 isn't registered for anything?

Hope everything's alright up there--it'd be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!

My mistake. I went through the whole list, just to make sure no one was on there that shouldn't have been.

dez250 20-10-2004 00:12

double registerd teams in DB.
 
OK maybe i can help many of you out and inform you as to why many teams show up as double and soon maybe triple on the FIRST "database" here. What really is happening is the web address that you are linking through is called a query. What that is, is a string of commands for a database that is accessing the information you are seeking in the query. Well as it appears, this query that people keep referring to is really asking to "show all teams registered at any and all events". Thus meaning if a team is registered at more then one event, they will appear for each event. So you will continue to have multiple teams show up multiple times as they register for more events, and as the 28th of October comes up when second regional registration opens, this database will more or less just be cluttered.

Denman 20-10-2004 08:06

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoel
555 teams and the newest rookie is from England...
Team 1542, exscitec/Imperial College & Issac Newton Centre, from London. Pretty cool! :D

yeh, unfortunatly we havn't been able to contact them...
we are actually based in cambridge, which is about 40 miles from london (about an hour by train or car) so it would be nice to tlak to them or to mentor or help them in any way we could

Jeremy 22-10-2004 21:37

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
we aren’t signed up yet but we will be we are making some final organization with the team because about 90% of the team this year are freshmen but we will be signed up don’t know for which comps though but we are trying to go to 2 regionals and nats "that’s if we have the money for all that"

Wetzel 23-10-2004 17:58

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkwetzel
omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?

Early on, teams got their numbers for that year in the order they registered in. In 1999, teams were listed alphabeticaly by sponser and given a number. Those numbers have remained since, with new teams being added at the end as they registered. Teams that have droped out are not reused, but the name stays with the school, for the most part. FIRST will work with a team that is reforming at a former school if they want to reclaim their team number.

For example, team 73 has come back after a year or two of not competing, but they still have their old team number.


Wetzel

Wetzel 24-10-2004 11:24

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtaman02
just think the more teams that compete the newer Robot controllers are going to have to be and the frequent change of the RC - that was the only reason why 2004 one was a different model to handle teams and battery backup / c++

Grammar helps us to understand your posts. It was very difficult to figure out what you meant without sentences or commas.

The old RC could handle the team number but just had a three digit LCD. I don't think that more teams will mean that the RC will have to change more often. Someone else can tell you how many teams the current RC will support, but I believe that we will not be reaching that point for a long time.


Wetzel

Wacko324 24-10-2004 17:48

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtaman02
just think the more teams that compete the newer Robot controllers are going to have to be and the frequent change of the RC - that was the only reason why 2004 one was a different model to handle teams and battery backup / c++

I doubt we will be seeing a new controller because of team numbers because the current controller goes up to team 4095 (hopefully I did my math right).

mtaman02 25-10-2004 03:07

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
sorry about that wetzel, i typed that message early yesterday morning and i retyped a reply just now but deleted =(. in any case you are right the OI's can handle more teams i checked with OI's prior to 2003 and they can handle greater team numbers all you really gotta do is solder a fourth digit lcd to the board. the only real difference between OI's is the programming ( at least thats what innov. first told me when i ordered a 2001 OI this yr. If i'm not mistaken to set team numbers it uses binary. and binary can go a long way. If any major change is done to the OI it will probably be its size. =) any way getting back to the topic at hand:

how many teams in 2005 : estimated 999 - 1250
by 2007: estimated 1400 - 1500

Andrew 25-10-2004 08:50

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Looks like we've made it to 755 teams by Monday, Oct. 25.

Three more days til second event reg opens.

Andrew 28-10-2004 09:04

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Today's the day for second event registration (10/28/04). So far, there are 791 teams signed up. After today, it's going to get harder to count teams.

It looks like we might not break 1000 this year. We'll have to see what happens when the NASA grants and the FIRST $1000 team assistance grants are awarded.

Alex Salomonsky 28-10-2004 09:29

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
769 has not registered yet, because of complications within our organization. The administrator who has our password retired, and has e-mail no longer exists at our school, so until we figure out our situation, we are unable to register.

Alex Golec 28-10-2004 12:51

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
They've made it to #1607 so far, but with the 2nd regional registration open teams are double and triple listed. Numberwise, I'd say we'll reach around 1650. It would be funny and sad if we could only reach 999 teams this year. (Random though that popped into my head.)

_Alex

Allison K 28-10-2004 20:36

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Right now we're at 796 teams total with 108 rookies (797 and 109 if you count my team, we've registered but we're on a waitlist so we have no number yet). I counted them by hand though so I might be off one or two in either direction.
~Allison

Wetzel 29-10-2004 11:29

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Salomonsky
769 has not registered yet, because of complications within our organization. The administrator who has our password retired, and has e-mail no longer exists at our school, so until we figure out our situation, we are unable to register.

Have your current teacher call FIRST. You are not the first team to be in this situation.

Wetzel

Andrew 30-10-2004 19:13

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I found a query which seems to give the number of teams without duplicates.

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro...-max=all&-find

It seems we're up to 828 teams. I haven't checked for errors though.

Raul 31-10-2004 01:36

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I will stick with my guess from last year
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=22550

----> 1030 teams in 2005.

Raul

Andrew 02-11-2004 13:24

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
As of election day (Nov. 2), teams are up to 845.

Robotics Dude 02-11-2004 21:22

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
team 311 wont be around this year our school board shut us down.

Doug G 02-11-2004 21:43

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotics Dude
team 311 wont be around this year our school board shut us down.

May we inquire why? (Injury? Cost? Liability? ???)

rachakate 04-11-2004 17:31

Re: Schools that participated last year, but not signed up yet...
 
Update -

30, 35, 104, 140, 167, 235, 249, 256, 258, 259, 276, 311, 321, 373, 374, 391, 398, 410, 434, 441, 442, 446, 449, 480, 492, 507, 535, 569, 581, 598, 605, 606, 611, 634, 642, 644, 649, 653, 665, 668, 670, 675, 692, 695, 704, 713, 758, 762, 764, 765, 770, 773, 780, 782, 825, 827, 831, 852, 861, 866, 875, 879, 880, 883, 888, 898, 902, 906, 908, 912, 938, 940, 942, 943, 953, 954, 959, 964, 970, 973, 979, 982, 992, 998, 1010, 1011, 1017, 1030, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1043, 1045, 1046, 1049, 1055, 1056, 1059, 1064, 1067, 1075, 1081, 1082, 1088, 1106, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1122, 1125, 1131, 1133, 1136, 1144, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1169, 1182, 1191, 1201, 1204, 1206, 1210, 1214, 1215, 1221, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1229, 1232, 1239, 1255, 1260, 1263, 1281, 1294, 1295, 1297, 1298, 1299, 1300, 1308, 1309, 1312, 1315, 1325, 1329, 1331, 1338, 1339, 1342, 1347, 1352, 1356, 1364, 1365, 1368, 1380, 1387, 1393, 1395, 1401, 1406, 1409, 1411, 1412, 1416, 1420, 1426, 1427, 1428, 1429, 1433, 1439, 1441, 1442, 1448, 1453, 1455, 1456, 1459, 1461, 1463, 1465, 1466, 1470, 1475, 1476, 1478, 1479, 1481, 1484, 1485, 1489, 1490, 1492, 1496

72 teams signed up and came off the list, barely made a dent.

phrontist 04-11-2004 18:07

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotics Dude
team 311 wont be around this year our school board shut us down.

bleeping litigous idiots! What happened?

Robotics Dude 09-11-2004 14:19

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
they cut funding and decided they didnt want to pay the teachers to stay late and advise us

Anne Shade 09-11-2004 15:21

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I put together an excel spread sheet for myself to make it easier to keep track of these number. So far there are 854 teams registered. Registration breaks down as follows:

1 event 607
2 events 235
3 events 12 (events include Championship)

I think these are right, at least as of this morning (I didn't include the Israel teams).

Allison K 09-11-2004 15:29

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
According to http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro...-max=all&-find there are currently 886 teams. But like the first person to post it I didn't check for errors.

Wetzel 09-11-2004 16:58

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotics Dude
they cut funding and decided they didnt want to pay the teachers to stay late and advise us

Will the teachers not stay if they don't get paid? A lot of teams have teachers that don't get paid. Most mentors don't get paid. Turn them into volunteers. :)


Wetzel

[nx]01 11-11-2004 09:33

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
You guys can expect a rookie team from Tennessee to be joining that list very shortly. We're getting the program OKed through the main office today. That'll make two teams from TN competeing this year, 4 total, Webb and South-Doyle from Knoxville haven't registered yet this year.

Alex Golec 11-11-2004 15:16

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Does anyone have ideas or plans to start teams in Nebraska? It is the only state to never have had a FIRST team, and one of two states this year (the other being NM) without a team. Also I've heard a few of the OCCRA (a local robot competition in MI) teams mentioning interest in joining first. This year is still busy.
_Alex

tribotec_ca88 14-11-2004 13:16

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Hmm last time I checked we were up to 1638. Someone asked earlier if we'd reach 1700...it won't be easy. But there's always those last-minute registrations, so we can keep our fingers crossed.

Also, great news: this year we've got 8 teams from Brazil!!! I wonder if any more are interested...?!?!?!

Team # Team Name Team Location
383 Metalaser/Meta Belting Porto Alegre, RS Brazil
/Ferramentas Gerais/
Quattuor/United Airlines
& Província de São Pedro HS
1156 Pio XII & Pio XII Novo Hamburgo, RS Brazil
1382 ETEP Technology São José Dos Campos, SP Brazil
High School
1603 Liberato & Liberato Novo Hamburgo, RS Brazil
1621 ENIAC & ENIAC HS Guarulhos, SP Brazil
1627 SENAI-SP & Sao Paulo, SP Brazil
Senai Suiço-Brasileira HS
1628 SENAI-RS & Caxias Do Sul, RS Brazil
Centro Tecnológico
de Mecatrônica Senai
1632 Embraer & Juarez Wanderley Sao Jose Dos Campos, SP Brazil

Koko Ed 14-11-2004 13:21

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tribotec_ca88
Hmm last time I checked we were up to 1638. Someone asked earlier if we'd reach 1700...it won't be easy. But there's always those last-minute registrations, so we can keep our fingers crossed.

Also, great news: this year we've got 8 teams from Brazil!!! I wonder if any more are interested...?!?!?!

Team # Team Name Team Location
383 Metalaser/Meta Belting Porto Alegre, RS Brazil
/Ferramentas Gerais/
Quattuor/United Airlines
& Província de São Pedro HS
1156 Pio XII & Pio XII Novo Hamburgo, RS Brazil
1382 ETEP Technology São José Dos Campos, SP Brazil
High School
1603 Liberato & Liberato Novo Hamburgo, RS Brazil
1621 ENIAC & ENIAC HS Guarulhos, SP Brazil
1627 SENAI-SP & Sao Paulo, SP Brazil
Senai Suiço-Brasileira HS
1628 SENAI-RS & Caxias Do Sul, RS Brazil
Centro Tecnológico
de Mecatrônica Senai
1632 Embraer & Juarez Wanderley Sao Jose Dos Campos, SP Brazil

I wonder if that means there will be a Bazillian regional one day?

Wetzel 14-11-2004 14:49

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
I wonder if that means there will be a Bazillian regional one day?

This year, I think NJ is the Brazillian regional with 5 teams from Brazil.

Lonestar -1
Flordia - 1
Midwest 1
NJ - 5

I'm still waiting for 383 to come back to VCU. :(


Wetzel

Alex Golec 14-11-2004 18:11

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Neither Michigan, New York, or California has broken the 100-team mark, they each have 7, 11, and 17 teams to go, respectively.
If Brazil's team growth keeps going at this current rate, then I expect that there will be a Brazillian regional in the near future (2006? sooner?)
_Alex

Ryan Foley 14-11-2004 19:26

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkwetzel
omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?

350 was inactive in both 2002 and 2003. We came back in 2004 as 350. I think that as long as you make sure FIRST doesnt delete you from their database, you can keep the number. A good idea is if you go inactive, let FIRST know you intend on returning.

As for the thread topic:
I think that we will have no more than 1050. Even though we are gaining a lot of rookies, a ldecent number of veteran teams are dropping like flies due to the increased registration fee.

Highest team number, no higher than 1700

Allison K 15-11-2004 11:10

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
The newest rookie (1639) is from France.

Wetzel 15-11-2004 11:24

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison K
The newest rookie (1639) is from France.

Registered for the Midwest Regional.

Wetzel

Stephen Kowski 15-11-2004 11:31

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison K
The newest rookie (1639) is from France.

The Coneheads? :p

Jeff Waegelin 15-11-2004 15:32

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Kowski
The Coneheads? :p

Only if they're from Remulak (sp?) ;)

Venkatesh 15-11-2004 15:41

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Im betting on somewhere between 1000 and 1100.

And how much has the registration fee changed?

Kevin Sevcik 15-11-2004 15:47

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
First regional registration fee has been raised from $5000 to $6000 for a 20% increase. At the moment I think 1000 is still somewhat optimistic. And keep in mind that these lists are registered teams, not necessarily teams that have paid in full...

Joe Ross 15-11-2004 16:15

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik
First regional registration fee has been raised from $5000 to $6000 for a 20% increase. At the moment I think 1000 is still somewhat optimistic. And keep in mind that these lists are registered teams, not necessarily teams that have paid in full...

The NASA grants haven't been given out yet, so there will be quite a few more rookie and second year teams.

Marc P. 15-11-2004 17:57

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Foley
350 was inactive in both 2002 and 2003. We came back in 2004 as 350. I think that as long as you make sure FIRST doesnt delete you from their database, you can keep the number. A good idea is if you go inactive, let FIRST know you intend on returning.

As long as you have the email address (team ID) and password of the mentor/leader in charge of registration in TIMS, you can technically register the same number. Many of the veteran teams who had to re-register as rookies lost the person in charge of registration, or dramatically changed team structure (changed affiliation with school, sponsor, etc.), and registered a new number as a new team. I don't believe FIRST cleans out the database of old teams, so conceivably any team registered in TIMS can be re-registered, provided the correct contact information/email/password is provided. This means any veteran teams on a hiatus may and hopefully will return next year, and spend this season fund raising and practicing.

Just remember the competitions are open to the public, so even if your team is taking a year off, it doesn't mean you or your team can't come to the events anyway! Show up and become surrogate members of another team, or just check out the 'bots and cheer everyone on. There's still plenty of good times to be had, even if you don't have a robot!

Allison K 17-11-2004 13:57

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Well we've caught up to last year. 930 teams.

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro...eam%20ID&-find

EDIT: Now 931 Teams with the highest rookie number 1642. Officialy more teams than last year.

tkwetzel 17-11-2004 15:17

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
It looks like two teams have signed up for 4 competitions :ahh: teams 47 and 494. I wish I could be a part of such a team that gets so much action during the season.

Courtneyb1023 17-11-2004 17:15

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
I personally LOVED our rookie year! It's been my favorite year so far, but i hope this year will rival it!

were you guys on your team during it's rookie year? if so, how did it go? if not, do you wish you had been?

Koko Ed 17-11-2004 21:21

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Courtneyb1023
I personally LOVED our rookie year! It's been my favorite year so far, but i hope this year will rival it!

were you guys on your team during it's rookie year? if so, how did it go? if not, do you wish you had been?

There's only two people on our team left over from the rookie year.

Alex Golec 17-11-2004 21:49

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkwetzel
It looks like two teams have signed up for 4 competitions :ahh: teams 47 and 494. I wish I could be a part of such a team that gets so much action during the season.

If I remember correctly, bot 47 and 494 did 3 regionals and the championship during 2004, IRI, Kettering Kickoff, and Sweet Repeat V- Seven total competitions (that I remember- If there were more... :ahh: ) Teams that decide to do many competitions always have the extra design challenge of endurance. Our robot did 2 regionals, chanpionships, IRI, KK, and SR-V.- you should see the amount of patchwork aluminum braces and latex bands that are strewn about the robot to keep it in shape.
And to keep with the topic of this thread, Michigan is in the lead with 93 teams, just barely ahead of New York's 89 (homestate pride!). We now rely on those last-minute turnouts that can bring us to over 1000 teams; if that doesn't happen this year it is almost a guarantee for next year.
_Alex

Yov 18-11-2004 11:00

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
When does registration end?

Ricky Q. 18-11-2004 11:02

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yov
When does registration end?

December 3rd.

Yov 23-11-2004 13:07

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
My team's not in the list yet and I'm getting worried :/

RogerR 23-11-2004 14:21

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yov
My team's not in the list yet and I'm getting worried :/

does your mentor(s) (or who-ever is the main contact on TIMS) know about the december 3rd deadline?

Yov 24-11-2004 15:06

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
woohoo

just saw us on the bottom of the list

go team 1657!

Koko Ed 03-12-2004 17:46

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Wow. Cali tied Michigan for the most teams in FIRST with 97 teams. Almost to 1000!

Koko Ed 03-12-2004 19:01

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Wow. Cali tied Michigan for the most teams in FIRST with 97 teams. Almost to 1000!

Correction.
FIRST now has 1000 teams!!!! :D

n0cturnalxb 03-12-2004 19:09

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Correction.
FIRST now has 1000 teams!!!! :D


Ooh, awesome! And go Cali! And Michigan and NY and on and on and on.. ;D

Koko Ed 15-12-2004 15:54

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
California is the first state to break the 100 team mark.

Alex Golec 15-12-2004 16:17

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
California is the first state to break the 100 team mark.

Darn. Michigan lost :D . Congrats to Cali for leading the way in the growth of FIRST teams. So who else wants to go to Nebraska to help them out?

_Alex

tkwetzel 15-12-2004 16:29

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex469
Darn. Michigan lost :D . Congrats to Cali for leading the way in the growth of FIRST teams. So who else wants to go to Nebraska to help them out?

_Alex

If you go by land size or population, I bet Michigan crushes California in the number of FIRST teams.

Alex Golec 15-12-2004 17:03

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkwetzel
If you go by land size or population, I bet Michigan crushes California in the number of FIRST teams.

If you wanted to think of it that way, the District of Columbia crushes every other state by a whopping margin, because it has 4 teams in a land area of 'tiny.'

_Alex

kpugh 16-12-2004 15:17

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Correction.
FIRST now has 1000 teams!!!! :D

Not sure how accurate that information is. Team 891 is no longer registered for the 2005 competition but we are on that list. I wonder if there are any other teams listed there that will not be competing this year. (Or conversely there could be teams that registered late and aren't on the list yet)

But wow!!! Over a thousand teams. That is quite the feat. Congratulations FIRST!

Andy Brockway 16-12-2004 16:35

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kpugh
Not sure how accurate that information is. Team 891 is no longer registered for the 2005 competition but we are on that list. I wonder if there are any other teams listed there that will not be competing this year.

782 is also listed but I have not seen them registered for an event. In their three years they have a regional win, it would be shame if they just faded away.

Robotics Dude 17-12-2004 03:26

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
my old tewam 311 isnt on that list. we had school problems

Anne Shade 17-12-2004 07:36

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kpugh
Not sure how accurate that information is. Team 891 is no longer registered for the 2005 competition but we are on that list. I wonder if there are any other teams listed there that will not be competing this year. (Or conversely there could be teams that registered late and aren't on the list yet)

But wow!!! Over a thousand teams. That is quite the feat. Congratulations FIRST!

There are quite a few teams on that list that are no longer registered. I've been keeping my own spreadsheet and by my count there are currently 991 team registered this year (as of 12/16 afternoon). Of those 179 are rookies.

Some interesting stats:

Number of events team are attending
1 event, 604, 60.9%
2 events, 261, 26.3%
3 events, 111, 11.2%
4 events, 14, 1.4%
5 events, 1, 0.1%

Averages:

# of Regionals/Team = 1.300706357
# of Events/team = 1.533804238

Andrew 17-12-2004 09:10

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
The link was created by going to the teams in a state on FIRST's map and deleting the state and country field. I have a feeling it was generated by teams pre-registering for the competition. When the team either did not register for an event or did not pay fees by Dec. 10, they dropped from the regional listings but not from the "what teams are in this state" listings.

Anne's spread-sheet probably has the right numbers. Unfortunately, a few of these teams are probably not going to make competition and we'll end up between 980 and 990 teams.

This is still an increase; but it goes to show how the extra $1000 in the initial entry fee reduced the rate of growth. :(

BTW, Kick off is just three weeks away!

Koko Ed 23-12-2004 10:44

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
Michigan just broke the 100 team mark.

jessjank. 23-12-2004 12:30

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
As of today (12/23/04) there are 1021 registered teams! That is absolutely awesome. I love the fact that FIRST has experienced so much international growth this year and I hope that there's plenty more to come in the future.
(Note to any rookie teams out there: If you ever need any help or have any questions, please feel free to contact my team and/or any of the great veteran FIRST teams. We love supporting rookies!)

Anne Shade 23-12-2004 12:52

Re: How many teams in 2005?
 
As mentioned before, the link posted to list registered teams is not accurate. As per my spreadsheet, there are currently 991 teams registered this year (as of this morning that is).


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