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Billfred 14-10-2004 00:55

How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Alright, so 1293 is getting the ball rolling on the prototypes. And I want to know from other teams who did skid-steer robots last year--how many motors did you use on a side on your robot in 2004?

And which ones?

Thanks!

tkwetzel 14-10-2004 02:10

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
Team 116 used a drill motor and a chiphua motor on each side. Two motors per gearbox. One gearbox per side. Four drive motors total.

Cory 14-10-2004 02:31

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
I want to know who voted for 4, and I want to see pictures of said drivetrain :P

We used Drills+Chips in ours, until it had massive issues and we took the drills out.

Bcahn836 14-10-2004 06:31

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
we used two chips for drive motors, we used two drill motors to raise and lower and open and close our arms

Peter Matteson 14-10-2004 07:34

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
We used the drills and chips in a modified version of the Teknocats gearbox.

We had high speed and extremly high torque.

Steve W 14-10-2004 08:19

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
Team 188 used 2 Chips, 2 Drill and 2 Fisher Price. We used 1 of each on the gearbox with 1 gearbox per side. Specs have been made available.

Specialagentjim 14-10-2004 08:46

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
One drill and One atwood (chiphua) per gearbox. Two gearboxes, one per side.

UCF we ran on only drills (7 lbs overweight, atwoods weighed 7lbs, so they were the first to go)

Jack Jones 14-10-2004 08:49

Re: How many drive motors did you use this year?
 
Doh! - should have read it more carefully - answered the title instead of the question. Was this some kind of a trap?

So, change my vote to two/side. FP in front & Bosch in back, each mated to it's own DeWalt three speed transmission.

sburro 14-10-2004 10:11

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred
Alright, so 1293 is getting the ball rolling on the prototypes. And I want to know from other teams who did skid-steer robots last year--how many motors did you use on a side on your robot in 2004?

And which ones?

Thanks!

there was one team at Manchester that used 4 motors per side. Due to the fact that I am in school at the moment, I can not post the picture I took. I will post as soon as I get home :D

sburro 14-10-2004 22:34

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
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ok here is that pic. I was wrong, they used three. I will have to give credit to team 229. It is their gearbox.

JVN 14-10-2004 22:42

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sburro
ok here is that pic. I was wrong, they used three. I will have to give credit to team 229. It is their gearbox.

That was just our fall prototype.
We designed a prototype drive with 6 motors, because we figured it was much easier to "remove" motors from a design than design in more motors. This gave us a nice base design to build off of during the 6 weeks.

Our actual competition robot used only 1 Chiaphua per side. It was originally designed for 1 Chip and 1 FP, but after testing it was decided the FP motors weren't worth it.

2 chips, 3 competitions, no problems.

John

sburro 14-10-2004 22:45

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN
That was just our fall prototype.
We designed a prototype drive with 6 motors, because we figured it was much easier to "remove" motors from a design than design in more motors. This gave us a nice base design to build off of during the 6 weeks.

Our actual competition robot used only 1 Chiaphua per side. It was originally designed for 1 Chip and 1 FP, but after testing it was decided the FP motors weren't worth it.

2 chips, 3 competitions, no problems.

John

It was still cool to look at. :yikes:
how many times did you end up switching gears durring a compition?

JVN 14-10-2004 22:56

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sburro
It was still cool to look at. :yikes:
how many times did you end up switching gears durring a compition?

Thanks.
In retrospect I think it's pretty ugly, but it was state of the art for about a month. ;) Maybe I just move onto new designs too quickly...


We shifted a decent amount each match.
At our first regional, our driver "forgot to shift" a lot. By the end he could handle it well, and transitioned frequently depending on the situation.

Shifting can be very handy, but of course... this is a well discussed subject.
Feel free to search for old threads which discuss the pros/cons of a shifter.

John

Tristan Lall 14-10-2004 23:06

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Here's a link to the write-up on 188's gearboxes. 3 motors per side, 2 ratios, chain-driven skid steering. (This is the 3rd year in a row in which 188 has used six drive motors.)

[527]phil 15-10-2004 17:07

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
we used one drill motor on each side with helical gearboxes that we will NEVER!! use again, lol, we hated them, too many problems. we also used a globe motor to raise our arm.

Karthik1 15-10-2004 17:28

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
We used 2 on each side last year (chip, and drill). This year we plan to use three (fisher-price, chip, and something else). It doesn't matter how much you use, whats more important is how you use your motors.

[527]phil 15-10-2004 18:34

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
hmm, kinda like "it's not the size it's how you use it", lol, yeah, you can use al the motors you want, if you don't use the right gearbox, or drive system then your not going anywhere

Steve Howland 15-10-2004 18:49

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
571 had a FP and a drill on each side, however at Bash the FPs needed some work and we worked only on the drills for a little, which didn't turn out so well (drills drew too much power when used an continually reset themselves).

pakrat 15-10-2004 19:53

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
Yeah, we used one on each side last, year, and two the year before. Our drivetrains need a bit of work, and i like John's idea, making a drivetrain with extra motors, and then you take out what you need elsewhere.

[527]phil 16-10-2004 20:27

Re: How many drive motors did you use (per side) this year?
 
but of course there are gunna be new motors this year, so my team has been making modular designes, i'm just gunna machine adapters for whatever size the shaft on the motor is, don't know yet, but as soon as we find out we can get to work


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