Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

Well our scout team did an amazing job so I know for a fact that we picked our alliances based on thier performance. Only thing is I belive our team has performed very well, especially for a sophmore team, it just seams like reputation is a bit slow to follow.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

I wish I could comment on you guys. I know you did great by the way the field looked when the matches were over. But you know how it is coaching. I never see anything except our bot and the scoring. We never got to play with or against you during seeding either. Nor do we have any videos of Palmetto. But I can say what you accomplished was definitely awesome. We had you scouted as the 3rd fastest capper there. 1251 1st - us 2nd and you 3rd. Anyhow, sorry if you're offended but you guys definitely put on a great performance. Congrats!

I wouldn't worry about a reputation, I know how some of the other best teams are scouting, and it's based on caps per match - you've got that down pat.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

we met once~ final match on friday =)

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

Doh! my memory..... Is that the one we lost with the Tech Tigers for the HP's getting off the pad? The FIRST match results are all screwed up again for all the regionals. I don't remember that match, who played who?

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

edit (if anyone from palmetto would like a team report or match report pm me)

This is our scouting data on the match~ fav part "fast cause their(sp) swamp" :) we sent the team out to play defense since they couldnt' cap.. we owned 3 goals at the end. You got our near right with about 30 seconds left to go giving you 2 lines - I think tytus pulled back a little early and took the center goal stack with him- I think you all got back too - surpringly good match.. but not much you can do when you go aginst swamp and tech =) unfortunatly you all did get penalized 60 points

Palmetto Regional - Match #43
Scheduled Time: 3:12


Red Alliance
Team Number: 1466
Autonomous: knock

General Notes: 5 caps, 1 center, three auto one under


Team Number: 1650
Autonomous: nothing

General Notes: one attempted under, human loader -- good defense


Team Number: 1398
Autonomous: nothing

General Notes: drove around like a maniac - attempted defense


Score: 19


Blue Alliance
Team Number: 1251
Autonomous: attempted cap

General Notes: human loader, tried to double load but no str, capped three times


Team Number: 179
Autonomous: knocked, moved to loader

General Notes: capped twice, dropped twice, uncapped a whole bunch - fast cause their swamp. ended match touching their last tetra


Team Number: 665
Autonomous: nothing

General Notes: broke a bunch tetras


Score: 0 (46) (-60 penalty points)

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

It is clear from the picks that the seedings were not a strong indicator of when or if you would get picked.

The teams went in this order (the number indicates seeding)
Clearly alliances 5 and 8 (team 845, 1026) were convinced that seeding was not important. Alliance 5 made it to the semis.
-1---2---3---4---5---6---7---8
-5--15--24--10--36--11--18--21
25--28--13--12--35--22--19--38

Seeds 14, 16(r), 17(r), 20(r), 23, and 26 were not selected. (r=rookie)
The 3 remaining rookie teams were not selected even though they were in the top 20. Does that say more about experience, reputation, or performance?

Based on what I saw, 2 of the rookies were basic driving boxes that got some lucky wins, but gained valuable experience. They were thrilled to go home in the top 20.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

What my driver means... is their individual performance. Many people look at the FIRST rankings and think those are actually the best teams. Everyone must remember that the qual matches are selected randomly...so it is possible for you to have a killer robot and go 5-5 easily. This year with penalties.. and 3on3.. one robot can not do it all. So scouting is more important than it has ever been. Our first pick (179) did an outstanding job on its own and was very unfortunate to receive as many penalties as they did. 1051 was an outstanding robot that lost a lot of close matches that were in no way its fault. I'm confident our team selected the best teams...and I don't mean the best available ones.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

I didn't realize nobody picked from the top 8. I was surprised 157 didn't get picked. They were awesome, but had a little bad luck. In the match against us they capped about 5-6 I think.
During the end of the alliance selections it almost seemed like whoever yelled the loudest would get picked, heh.
The 845 alliance was excellent, I had my eye on them the whole time. 845 did a great job this year. We faced them in the finals at UCF also.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

Note-We were the #5 seed and we were picked by 1251 1st overall.

Alliance selections did go about how i thought they would. After we first met with 1251 we tried to solve who would go when. We knew 179 was going to go right after, followed closely by 343. Then we kind of drew a blank from there on out, we had certain ideas of where each would go, but nothing definite. The 2nd round of selections was alot different from what we had expected. We were thinking of 301, 1051, and 157. We were also incredibly suprised when 157 was not picked up. We had them tied with 301. We were also greatly suprised to see Spam go mid 2nd round.

All in all, this was a great event. If we are able to schedule it right, we will see y'all again next year.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

I think also those numebrs you posted show great scouting
or alot of 'friend-picking'

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

I totally agree that rankings isn't the only thing that matters for a good alliance. Team 845 picked 1102 and 342 not because of ranking but because a.) they were from South Carolina b.) We knew that these teams were made up of great people. As you saw at Palmetto the #36th and #35th ranked teams beat the #10th and #12th ranked teams, and we still had a blast working with them. :D Also Swampdude, thanks for the compliment you guys did awesome at both regionals, it was great facing you guys at UCF. 845 had a blast and can't wait to see everyone at nationals! :D
-Mike Griffith (dude with once blue but now green spikey hair) :cool:

"Everything that counts can't always be counted, and everythings that can be counted doesn't always count"
-Albert Einstein ;)

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

Thanks Mike. I think what you are saying it you'd rather go into the afternoon with somebody you know. I recall that 1102 and 845 go back as far as the pre-ship scrimmage this year. We helped each other with repairs in Greer. I thought the all SC alliance was a nice touch in Columbia. Thanks for the opportunity.

As for the winners, I'll bet 1051 is still floating on air. A real Cinderella story. 1466 and 179 did great by picking them!

One other note. I think all 3 teams in the finalist alliance were already going to the championship. 1466 and 1051 got a trip because of their win. 179 won FLA and was already going. Now we have 2 more teams (and friends) at the Championships.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

The two adults I met on 845 were amazing people. =) thanks for the good times
and yes the win was very important to the team, because there is little support for them on the schoolboard side, and the president(of the private school) promised to pay for nationals if we made it. A very wonderful story. I HOPE 1051 gets to make it, they told me right after the competition they had pretty much exausted all funds, but they also said some man came over and said he might be able to help since they were the only team from SC to win.

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

Here is a small video which one of our team members made! Its quite nice!


here

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

this kids name is REYNOR and is only in middle school.. he is modest .. so we won't say his name much REYNOR
anyway~ he's a video god..
but mp4 is bad

Re: 2005 Palmetto Regional
 

Yeah I should have said his name so he can get his credits where credit is due!!