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Elgin Clock 03-11-2004 14:53
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katie Reynolds
Bush got Ohio, which brings him up to 274 electoral votes.
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That word projected is just as annoying during election time as concede and electoral votes.

Why does this country not have patients?

I find it disturbing that it took the same amount of time to decide my town's local election (a town of about 10,000 voters) that it took to count and announce the presidential election (a country of about 115 million voters)

David Kelly 03-11-2004 15:36
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephM
They will still count all the votes. This is coming from my civics teacher.
There are not enough votes in Ohio to overcome the President's lead, even if he got EVERY single vote that was outstanding.

MikeDubreuil 03-11-2004 15:55
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Kelly
There are not enough votes in Ohio to overcome the President's lead, even if he got EVERY single vote that was outstanding.
Currently, CNN.com is reporting Bush has 2,796,147 votes and Kerry has 2,659,664. Simple math tells us that Bush is ahead by 136,483 votes.

In this article on CNN.com Ohio Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell (Republican), has stated the number of provisional ballets as being close to 175,000. Therefore, it is mathematicaly possible for Kerry to win Ohio.

Jaine Perotti 03-11-2004 17:43
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
I agree that it is probably unlikely that Kerry will be able to win Ohio.

However...
Earlier today I got the following information in a email sent by a family member. I am not sure on the source of the information, so I won't say whether I beleive it or not, or if I think that the predictions are valid. But I do find it interesting.

This is what the email said:

Quote:
It's not over in Ohio. As this email notes:
Bush is currently leading in Ohio by 136,221
If there are 250,000 provisional ballots outstanding, and 90% of those ballots are good, as they were in 2000: That leaves 225,000 votes.

If 85% of those ballots prove to be for Kerry, about the number that Gore got in 2000: That leaves Kerry with 191,250, giving Kerry a lead of 55,029.

If there are only 200,000 provisionals, following the same calculation would leave Kerry with a lead of 16,779.

If the provisional ballots are only 175,000 that leaves Kerry with a deficit of -2,346 that leaves the Kerry campaign in a position to get an automatic statewide recount.

Or, to put it another way, an automatic recount is triggered by a margin of 0.25% or between 13,000 and 16,000 votes.
I'm not suggesting that Kerry should have called for a recount, but I thought it was interesting that there might have been a possibility for this to happen.

Dorienne 03-11-2004 18:00
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
From my personal perspective, I saw it as Kerry not wanting the position as badly as he's proposed. I saw it as him giving it up. If he wanted to be President so badly, and change Bush's way of doing things in the US so much, then he should have kept fighting for it. If he really believes in this country and that he can do a good job at running, he should have kept fighting to do what he thought was best for our country.
I do have respect for him because he tried, but all the same, I still found it to be quite disappointing in a Democrat's point of view (I'm not a Democrat, just so people don't get confused).

Joe Ross 03-11-2004 18:10
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil
Currently, CNN.com is reporting Bush has 2,796,147 votes and Kerry has 2,659,664. Simple math tells us that Bush is ahead by 136,483 votes.

In this article on CNN.com Ohio Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell (Republican), has stated the number of provisional ballets as being close to 175,000. Therefore, it is mathematicaly possible for Kerry to win Ohio.
Quote:
The secretary of state's office on Wednesday released a count of 155,337 provisional ballots. Unofficial vote totals from Tuesday's election put President Bush ahead by 136,000 votes, but Kerry made it clear in his concession speech that there were not enough outstanding votes for him to win the state and capture the presidency. Experts say provisional ballots do not depart significantly from the overall vote.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...0090886.htm?1c

Cory 03-11-2004 20:01
Re: Kerry call's to concede
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait
From my personal perspective, I saw it as Kerry not wanting the position as badly as he's proposed. I saw it as him giving it up. If he wanted to be President so badly, and change Bush's way of doing things in the US so much, then he should have kept fighting for it. If he really believes in this country and that he can do a good job at running, he should have kept fighting to do what he thought was best for our country.
I do have respect for him because he tried, but all the same, I still found it to be quite disappointing in a Democrat's point of view (I'm not a Democrat, just so people don't get confused).
No, not really, he just knew that the odds of him winning were astronomically high against him.

Like Joe said, provisional ballots arent going to suddenly all be 100% in favor of Kerry, they're probably going to follow the same trend that the other ballots did, and be split almost evenly in favor of each candidate.


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