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Gary Dillard 20-12-2004 12:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magnasmific
What is the point of this? Shouldn't it be classified as "useless posting" which is looked down upon by many people on CD? Why isn't this in the "chit-chat" section?
It's in the RUMOR MILL section, hence it is a RUMOR. Personally I find it entertaining to see what gets started in this particular forum section and have people go off the deep end. I doubt that any useless post would get a couple thousand views and a hundred replies (so far) in 3 days as this one has. It doesn't matter to me if the teacher actually said it or not, or if he made it up or not; anything here is hearsay so you can take it for what it's worth - usually nothing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnasmific
I understand that people are excited, but this type of discussion is not productive. Speculation is never going to help you in the real competition.
I disagree. What are we trying to do in the competition / build season? Get kids to think, think out of the box, think through all possibilities. Look through all the posts - noone is off starting or changing their robot design based on this rumor, but they're thinking through "what could that mean?" How would we do it differently if there were 3 on 3, or 5 at a time, or no center structure? If I started a rumor that I heard the robot had to carry a cup of coffee for the whole match, I doubt anyone would take it seriously but they would start thinking "how would we do that?" Same thing with the FIRST is selling old motors threads, etc. - we may think we know the reason but until the game is announced it's all speculation.

It's also useful for teaching students that they need to read the rules, not rely on what what they've heard or remember. They change every year and relying on rumors is as bad as relying on "it was that way last year".

I'm very impressed with how well this rumor did; my attempt last week didn't generate much attention even after I recruited Arefin to help me. Nice job Aaron! And yes, it should have been a separate thread because it's a separate rumor.

Steve W 20-12-2004 12:40
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Ok guys let's get this back on topic. I personally guessed that 4 was not enough 2 months ago and when questions were asked there did not seem to be any resounding NO's forth coming. Does it make it true? I will know in a few weeks.

On another note - Why does kick off take so long to get here but ship date comes toooooooooo fast? :confused:

Alexander McGee 20-12-2004 12:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
It's in the RUMOR MILL section, hence it is a RUMOR. Personally I find it entertaining to see what gets started in this particular forum section and have people go off the deep end. I doubt that any useless post would get a couple thousand views and a hundred replies (so far) in 3 days as this one has. It doesn't matter to me if the teacher actually said it or not, or if he made it up or not; anything here is hearsay so you can take it for what it's worth - usually nothing.



I disagree. What are we trying to do in the competition / build season? Get kids to think, think out of the box, think through all possibilities. Look through all the posts - noone is off starting or changing their robot design based on this rumor, but they're thinking through "what could that mean?" How would we do it differently if there were 3 on 3, or 5 at a time, or no center structure? If I started a rumor that I heard the robot had to carry a cup of coffee for the whole match, I doubt anyone would take it seriously but they would start thinking "how would we do that?" Same thing with the FIRST is selling old motors threads, etc. - we may think we know the reason but until the game is announced it's all speculation.

It's also useful for teaching students that they need to read the rules, not rely on what what they've heard or remember. They change every year and relying on rumors is as bad as relying on "it was that way last year".

I'm very impressed with how well this rumor did; my attempt last week didn't generate much attention even after I recruited Arefin to help me. Nice job Aaron! And yes, it should have been a separate thread because it's a separate rumor.
Listen,

I understand that I am in the rumor mill, and i understand that it is a rumor. I don't like the fact that things in the rumor mill show up, by default, in the portal. I have already written Brandon about getting this changed.

On another note, we can agree to disagree about ways to motivate your students. I have mine, and you yours. That's what makes FIRST such a wonderful program; different ideas create different things. My team is composed of 95% unexperienced FIRST students, from many different schools. My team wasn't just something centered at a single high school. I figure, if we petition ourselves to multiple high schools, we get the best and most excited ones from many different schools. And, it has worked.

Good luck to you and everyone else in the upcoming season. Weather it be on a hexagonal field, or with 15 robots. It doesn't really matter to me. :rolleyes:

-Alex

Heretic121 20-12-2004 13:35
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i was just randomly thinking on the whole four thing.... if "Four is not enough" then the whole "four post" delimea that was going on may contribute to the game this year... either in robot numbers or the amount of humans in drive team, either way... the not breaking four posts per day could also be a sign that there will STILL only be 4 robots w/ 4 people.

Another thing popping into mind would be the 1v1v1v1v1 thing - i just read Mr. Baker's long arse post on dave's 5 comments... which also implies that he was almost purposly going to post more than 4 times a day to conceal the 5's... also i belive Mr. John V-Nuen one day posts "AH HA! This is my 5th post of the day!" which also may have something to do with the magical number "5"!!! but i dont think first would go back to the free-for-all games like in pre-2001...

ttedrow 20-12-2004 14:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlavery
I always mean what I say. I just don't always say what I mean.

And who is to say what is the mean? Do I mean the mean? Or even the average? Or am I just being mean (or average, which could be my mean)?

This must be Section I of the 2005 rules

Swampdude 20-12-2004 15:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard

I'm very impressed with how well this rumor did; my attempt last week didn't generate much attention even after I recruited Arefin to help me. Nice job Aaron! And yes, it should have been a separate thread because it's a separate rumor.
Mmm hmm, sure. So Gary, why have you been building a Hexagonal field in your back yard? And now your dragging poor Arefin into this? Whats he doing for you, making donuts?

George A. 20-12-2004 20:55
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All I can say is that this post has been fun.

First off I attended school with the mentor in question, yes he does like to stir up some commotion every once in a while, but then again he also doesn't do anything that doesn't promote FIRST in some way.

Now onto the topic at hand...maybe 4 is not enough refers to the number of methods to score. Last year there was big balls small balls, and the bar...maybe more ways this year?

Also it might be just me but I remember last year during the kickoff, when they were explaining the game that someone (I forget who) said "the IR sensor isn't required...YET...with emphasis on the yet...which leads me to believe that the IR sensor may be required in this years game.

Conor Ryan 20-12-2004 20:57
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maybe it'll be like a ring, a circular arena. That would be intesting, it'll be like the coliseum in rome.

n0cturnalxb 20-12-2004 23:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
<---Begin Transmission--->
After consulting with my fellow dectectives at Mystery Inc., I have a few leads as to what this clue may mean.

We are investigating this matter further as of now, but.. Fred, our fearless leader, seems to think that it is the work of none other than Red Herring and the clue is fake.

If any of you spot this person, be wary of the information they give you, and call me.

~~~~File Photo~~~~
~~~Red Herring~~~
That is all..
<---End Transmission--->
....

:D

I <3 YOU! HAHAHAHAH!!! Love love love! ;)


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Anyway. The center is out.. the field will no longer be symmetrical? When something's symmetrical it will always be symmetrical about a point, whether that's a point (e.g. the origin) or a line (e.g. the x-axis) or something ... if you take that center (the "mirror") out, it's no longer symmetrical?

.. Okay, I swear that made sense in my head. I think I'm just incapable of writing right now.. too many college application essays hanging over my head.

shyra1353 21-12-2004 12:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n0cturnalxb
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Anyway. The center is out.. the field will no longer be symmetrical? When something's symmetrical it will always be symmetrical about a point, whether that's a point (e.g. the origin) or a line (e.g. the x-axis) or something ... if you take that center (the "mirror") out, it's no longer symmetrical?
aren't donuts symmetrical ?? and they don't have a centre ... well they do, but it is made of air ...

Smurfbotguy 21-12-2004 12:15
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Maybe there will be some sort of towers in the corners instead of having a structure in the middle.

Sachiel7 21-12-2004 12:34
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Assuming that this hint is legit,
My guess about the "center being out" has to do with the past 3 years of games. For the three years I've been involved with FIRST, there has always been a large game element in the center of the field. (2002-the goals, 2003-the ramp/bin wall, 2004-the platform/bar)
My guess is that perhaps the robots start in the center of the field, and the game elements are around the outer side of the field. Just a guess...
As far as "Four is not enough", there are lots of guesses. Obviously, the idea that more robots would be on the field is considerable, but not when you realize that FIRST just spent loads of money on making permanent fields for the regionals with the newer dimensions (48x24') and it would be heck to cram more than 4 bots along with field elements into that space. Plus FIRST would have to update the driver stations on all the permanent fields to run 3 hookups (assuming there are 6 bots) to each side. I just think there's too much against that idea.
I'm not sure exactly how it'd apply to the game. My best bet would be that it has to do with either autonomous or scoring.
There you have it.

MikeDubreuil 21-12-2004 12:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sachiel7
My guess about the "center being out" has to do with the past 3 years of games. For the three years I've been involved with FIRST, there has always been a large game element in the center of the field. (2002-the goals, 2003-the ramp/bin wall, 2004-the platform/bar)
My guess is that perhaps the robots start in the center of the field, and the game elements are around the outer side of the field. Just a guess...
I think you're right about the center being out. I think teams might start in the middle of the field. I also think this refers to us bringing back inner tubes as scorable objects.

I think four is not enough refers to the number of goals. Last year there were 4 goals, this year there will be more goals.

Also, Dave Lavery's clue about John Neun, I think this indicates we might see the use of baseballs as scorable objects. Since John Neun in an old time baseball player.

Eat desert first, I would say this means that this could either mean autonomous mode will be at the end, OR that the field will be setup giving the maximum number of points to each team and the object is to unscore your opponents scorable objects.

Mark Koors 21-12-2004 13:06
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I was trying to think of all the things that come in groups of four last year.

Here's my list:
sides of the field
robots per match
60 amp fuses
red/blue lights
people per team
goals per field

Any others?

tkwetzel 21-12-2004 13:09
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Were there 4 or 5 levels to the center of the field? If there were two small steps, there would be four levels to that.

Chris P 21-12-2004 15:21
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For the center is out:
I didn't notice anyone bring up Baseball at all...

On the other hand, like many people have brought up it could be in regards to a cylinder/hoop object. I think doing some sort of "stack a pyramid" would be cool (think back to those baby games where they put the rings on a pole).

Chris

n0cturnalxb 21-12-2004 18:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sachiel7
Assuming that this hint is legit,
My guess about the "center being out" has to do with the past 3 years of games. For the three years I've been involved with FIRST, there has always been a large game element in the center of the field. (2002-the goals, 2003-the ramp/bin wall, 2004-the platform/bar)
My guess is that perhaps the robots start in the center of the field, and the game elements are around the outer side of the field. Just a guess...
As far as "Four is not enough", there are lots of guesses. Obviously, the idea that more robots would be on the field is considerable, but not when you realize that FIRST just spent loads of money on making permanent fields for the regionals with the newer dimensions (48x24') and it would be heck to cram more than 4 bots along with field elements into that space. Plus FIRST would have to update the driver stations on all the permanent fields to run 3 hookups (assuming there are 6 bots) to each side. I just think there's too much against that idea.
I'm not sure exactly how it'd apply to the game. My best bet would be that it has to do with either autonomous or scoring.
There you have it.
Yeah! THAT'S what I meant! .. that the game elements aren't symmetrically placed (eg 2004 field), with the line of symmetry at the middle .. but they're placed around the center?

..Okay, I think I've stopped making sense AGAIN =x

Specialagentjim 21-12-2004 19:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdude
Mmm hmm, sure. So Gary, why have you been building a Hexagonal field in your back yard? And now your dragging poor Arefin into this? Whats he doing for you, making donuts?

If arefin's making donuts, they better have hexagonal centers, or they won't fit on our robot this year.

EricS-Team180 22-12-2004 08:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Specialagentjim
If arefin's making donuts, they better have hexagonal centers, or they won't fit on our robot this year.
...what? Arefin's now making donuts for GaryDill Inc? ...even after this summer's fiasco over the "shifty" gearboxes :D


I dunno, Gary, with all the trouble KrispyKreme is having ... oh ... now wait...not THOSE kinds of donuts ...

<daydreams> 2005 game...DonutDazzle...
...robots autonomously deliver KrispyKremes from the center of the field to human players that must devour more than 4 during the autonomous period to allow manual control to be given to the operator and driver... :p

Stu Bloom 22-12-2004 09:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricS-Team180
... <daydreams> 2005 game...DonutDazzle...
...robots autonomously deliver KrispyKremes from the center of the field to human players that must devour more than 4 during the autonomous period to allow manual control to be given to the operator and driver... :p
Now THAT sounds like a game Dave would dream up ... ;) (of course the coach would be the one who has to eat the donuts)

Note: I saw Dave make some KK's disappear at IRI this year - I think his team would be tough to beat ...

Swampdude 22-12-2004 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricS-Team180
<daydreams> 2005 game...DonutDazzle...
...robots autonomously deliver KrispyKremes from the center of the field to human players that must devour more than 4 during the autonomous period to allow manual control to be given to the operator and driver... :p
Man, now I can get excited about this!
*Mentor yelling at the students* EAT EAT COMMON WHATAYOU DOING EEAAATTT!!!!!!
*Students jaw muscles going numb* I can't, I need milk.... *thinks 5 matches left*
Can you see the finals? You've gotta take that 5 minute timeout to go puke...
Finally a way to glorify the teenagers ability to devour food!
This is a great game idea!

Peter Matteson 22-12-2004 11:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdude
Man, now I can get excited about this!
*Mentor yelling at the students* EAT EAT COMMON WHATAYOU DOING EEAAATTT!!!!!!
*Students jaw muscles going numb* I can't, I need milk.... *thinks 5 matches left*
Can you see the finals? You've gotta take that 5 minute timeout to go puke...
Finally a way to glorify the teenagers ability to devour food!
This is a great game idea!
Encouraging more teenagers to become bulemic. That's what FIRST is all about. :rolleyes:

Brandon Holley 22-12-2004 13:30
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Heyy sorry to dissappoint everybody, but i believe all this talk was for nothing. I am also in the same class as "aaron" who supplied this hint. Our teacher like always, was playing a joke on the class. Aaron took this literally and poof, chiefdelphi madness. Like i said sorry to dissappoint everyone, but this hint was just a class joke.

Barry Bonzack 22-12-2004 14:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
If I started a rumor that I heard the robot had to carry a cup of coffee for the whole match....
Enough with the "the center is out" problem.... anyone have any ideas on how they would carry a cup of coffee for the whole match? :confused:

Aaron 22-12-2004 15:56
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Hi everyone, apparently this was a ruse given to us by our teacher to get us excited about the competition this year coming up. Unfortunately this hype has been for nothing. Its a ficticious hint, sorry.

roboticsguy1988 22-12-2004 18:09
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Somehow i kind of thought it was. Although it was a good thing to get everyone thinking. <<< It gives our brain a work out for the building season. ;) It was really fun to watch all the idea's that everyone got (some people have some pretty interesting thinking caps on their heads).

shyra1353 22-12-2004 18:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
Hi everyone, apparently this was a ruse given to us by our teacher to get us excited about the competition this year coming up. Unfortunately this hype has been for nothing. Its a ficticious hint, sorry.
hahaha .. thats awesome .. most people thought it was anyways .. but thanks for the entertainment!!

trev2023 22-12-2004 18:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack1604
Enough with the "the center is out" problem.... anyone have any ideas on how they would carry a cup of coffee for the whole match? :confused:
1. Have the human player drink the coffee (bleargh :ahh: ), then have the robot carry the empty mug around the rest of the match.

2. Have the robot attach a lid to the cup, making it unspillable.

interesting thoughts, though.

Rich Wong 22-12-2004 19:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
Hi everyone, apparently this was a ruse given to us by our teacher to get us excited about the competition this year coming up. Unfortunately this hype has been for nothing. Its a ficticious hint, sorry.
LOL..... don't been sorry... THIS IS THE RUMOR MILL!

It was fun. (Brain needed excercise anyway.)
See yea at NJIT for the REAL brainstorming. :)

Jessica Boucher 22-12-2004 20:36
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Okay, I'm dating myself again...but does anyone remember this beauty?

Misdirected E-mail Unveils 2001 Game 3 Days Early...

So, don't worry about it. Stuff like this has gone on for years. ;)

Gary Dillard 22-12-2004 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack1604
Enough with the "the center is out" problem.... anyone have any ideas on how they would carry a cup of coffee for the whole match? :confused:
y'know, if for some sick reason the game this year DOES involve carrying a cup of coffee, I'll have to change my name and ask for federal protection since everyone would assume I revealed privileged information (that I found in a stray pdf file). Imagine the pressure on Dave Lavery - every time he sneezes someone assumes it's a game hint.

Steve W 22-12-2004 22:07
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Sorry to stir the pot BUT, did you ever notice that whenever a leak occurs, shortly after there is a denial. The next thing you know , the game is revealed and voila the leak was correct. This one seems too FIRST like to not be considered. I have a funny feeling about it. I guess we'll see in a few more days.

nkrumm 23-12-2004 02:34
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even though the hint is supposedly bogus, what about this:

- 4 is not enough -> 5 robots, all on one side (i.e. 4 v 0)
- the center has an area for 1 or 2 robots, who will be disabled there.
- the game progresses in "tag-team" format, where one team can tag in the center robot(s) and replace them on the actual field.

Eh?

RbtGal1351 23-12-2004 16:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nkrumm
even though the hint is supposedly bogus, what about this:

- 4 is not enough -> 5 robots, all on one side (i.e. 4 v 0)
- the center has an area for 1 or 2 robots, who will be disabled there.
- the game progresses in "tag-team" format, where one team can tag in the center robot(s) and replace them on the actual field.

Eh?
that'd be cool!!! Tag team FIRST robotics...
and it goes along w/ the whole gracias professionalism and alliances that FIRST likes..
LoL
i luv how no one cares the hint is "supposedly bogus" reali... HahA ;)
~Stephanie

dlavery 23-12-2004 23:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
y'know, if for some sick reason the game this year DOES involve carrying a cup of coffee, I'll have to change my name and ask for federal protection since everyone would assume I revealed privileged information (that I found in a stray pdf file). Imagine the pressure on Dave Lavery - every time he sneezes someone assumes it's a game hint.

Achoo!

David Kelly 23-12-2004 23:39
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I think its got something to do with Spongebob. He's disappearing from all around the country. Must be the only way FIRST can get ahold of those SquarePants!!! :yikes:

Kevin Kolodziej 24-12-2004 01:40
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Man...even if it is bogus, my thoughts must be heard:

-I really like the idea of starting in the center of the field - if not this year, NEXT YEAR!!

-Scoring on the outsides of the field would be awesome (anyone remember 2001 CDI with the Orange Juice jugs??).


-I don't think it would be that difficult to have three teams per side with the configuration that the fields currently have - they are set up for 4 per side anyway.


-"The center is out" means the return of torroids to me...that or the balls this year are going to be turned inside out :ahh:

Kev

tkwetzel 24-12-2004 02:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RbtGal1351
that'd be cool!!! Tag team FIRST robotics...
and it goes along w/ the whole gracias professionalism and alliances that FIRST likes..
LoL
i luv how no one cares the hint is "supposedly bogus" reali... HahA ;)
~Stephanie
Yeah...it would be excellent...I mentioned it here so hopefully it is being considered.

Gary Dillard 24-12-2004 08:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlavery
Achoo!
Hmmm..... The only reason Dave would have responded is if that really was a game hint. Is he pretending to have a cold? Could it be that the game is on ice this year?

Billfred 24-12-2004 09:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
Hmmm..... The only reason Dave would have responded is if that really was a game hint. Is he pretending to have a cold? Could it be that the game is on ice this year?
...or perhaps he's just doing it to respond to your earlier post. That was way too detailed for a real Lavery hint.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. :D

RbtGal1351 24-12-2004 15:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
Imagine the pressure on Dave Lavery - every time he sneezes someone assumes it's a game hint.
goodness gracias ppl... if a whole bunch of nerds were talking about YOU and said that, of COURSE you'd say "Achoo!"
he's just playing w/ us...
...but thats normal, isnt it. :eek: o well,
~Stephanie

Elgin Clock 24-12-2004 15:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Kelly
I think its got something to do with Spongebob. He's disappearing from all around the country. Must be the only way FIRST can get ahold of those SquarePants!!! :yikes:
Actually.. in our town, the Spongebob was donated to the local Park and Rec. Department by BK for use at kid oriented events.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
Could it be that the game is on ice this year?
At the local mall, they have a fake skating rink that is made from the HDPE stuff that was on top of the platform in 2003.

All the slipperyness of ice, without the dreaded water.




<Elgin - Adding to the rumors on CD since 2001>

Conor Ryan 24-12-2004 20:07
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o neato a tag team idea. but what if a robot becomes immobilized some how and can't tag?

Arefin Bari 27-12-2004 13:45
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Can I have my Xmas present already, DAVE?

I am very close to pull my hairs out. :)

Sugar_Bunny 27-12-2004 16:04
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Maybe the scoring has to do with some sort of ring...Just a thought

Rosiebotboss 28-12-2004 09:30
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".....one Ring to rule them and in the darkness bind them."

Rich Wong 28-12-2004 09:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss
".....one Ring to rule them and in the darkness bind them."
HULA HOOPS?
The robots have to spin more than 4 hula hoops? :eek:

Jeff K. 28-12-2004 10:55
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I'll agree with some of the people on this thread that all of you are crazy obsessing over the 'hint' when we can just wait a little more than a week and find out what the real comp. is.undefined

Rich Wong 28-12-2004 12:22
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Top 10 reasons to post in or read from RUMOR MILL/2005 HINTS forum:

#10 I’m bored and suffering from FIRST withdrawals.
#9 Logic and intelligence turned off until Jan. 8, 2005 9:59AM.
#8 Nothing to do between FLL tournaments.
#7 Make suggestion that may be used in future FIRST games.
#6 Get other FIRST’er and self worked up over nothing.
#5 Practice brainstorming... no idea is too silly.
#4 It’s winter recess; can’t yell at the students to cleanup.
#3 Keeps me off the streets and away from non-FIRST’er.
#2 Did I mentioned I’m really bored.

(drum roll....)
#1 It drives CD/FIRST’er rookies crazy when they read this stuff.

(Sorry for my short moment of insanity... ) ;)

dlavery 28-12-2004 18:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Wong
Top 10 reasons to post in or read from RUMOR MILL/2005 HINTS forum:

#10 I’m bored and suffering from FIRST withdrawals.
#9 Logic and intelligence turned off until Jan. 8, 2005 9:59AM.
#8 Nothing to do between FLL tournaments.
#7 Make suggestion that may be used in future FIRST games.
#6 Get other FIRST’er and self worked up over nothing.
#5 Practice brainstorming... no idea is too silly.
#4 It’s winter recess; can’t yell at the students to cleanup.
#3 Keeps me off the streets and away from non-FIRST’er.
#2 Did I mentioned I’m really bored.

(drum roll....)
#1 It drives CD/FIRST’er rookies crazy when they read this stuff.

(Sorry for my short moment of insanity... ) ;)
And Reason #0 - Releasing them as "clues" is a great use for all those left over fortune cookie fortunes acquired while munching down on take-out Chinese food during build season!

-dave

Gary Dillard 28-12-2004 20:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlavery
And Reason #0 - Releasing them as "clues" is a great use for all those left over fortune cookie fortunes acquired while munching down on take-out Chinese food during build season!

-dave
A word from DAVE! Passed down from on high - what can it mean? Chinese food - China's on the other side of the world..... We have to compete while standing on our heads. And not just Chinese food, but "Take-out Chinese food"! What can that mean? We enter the field but can't start until we leave, it must be a human player clue. And why "Munching down"? I've got it - the team that makes the smallest stack wins! But wait, this is reason number zero - could there be something binary involved? Torment us no longer, Oh most great and knowledgable Dave. We savor your every utterance.

Steve W 28-12-2004 21:06
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Or could this be a reference to the Great Wall??? :confused:

Rich Wong 28-12-2004 23:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlavery
And Reason #0 - Releasing them as "clues" is a great use for all those left over fortune cookie fortunes acquired while munching down on take-out Chinese food during build season!

-dave
Wow! A great series of clues?
Well…. using the S.W.A.G. method of deduction (Stupid Wild A** Guess), here I go:
Knowing Dave’s superior writing skills, the crafting of this sentence must contain numerous game clues.
1. The use of “releasing them” is an obvious clues.
2. Fortune cookies are desserts served in Chinese restaurants; remember the previous statement: “Eat dessert first”? And these cookies are also "containers" with "contain" (the messages).
3. Take-outs are also call “Take Away” in other countries; so you got to take something away.
4. Take-outs are also associated with a container with contain. Do we put something in the container or delivery something in a container.
5. And what is another word for munching? To consume? To TAKE AWAY?
6. What are “clues” but field elements. So “left over” are additional field elements that much be collected after removal of the containers?

Disclaimer: if you believe my S.W.A.G., then I have a NYC bridge to sell ya!
;)

Steve W 29-12-2004 00:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Wong
if you believe my S.W.A.G., then I have a NYC bridge to sell ya!
;)

How much???

mtaman02 29-12-2004 00:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Wong

Disclaimer: if you believe my S.W.A.G., then I have a NYC bridge to sell ya!
;)
which one I hope not the Brooklyn Bridge b/c thats been on the market for years and has had numerous owners. I am currently the Realtor trying to sell it now got a good deal going. If you believe Rich's S.W.A.G. I will not only sell the bklyn bridge to you but I'll throw in a pair of Subway Tracks of any line of your choice for free. This package is for limited time only so act now our agents are standing by. Call in the next 10 minutes and we'll give you an additional 2 subway tracks to the ones already in the package.



OK game hint deciphered - Spelling ? too lazy to hit spell check

Maybe the field is in a different shape - no longer a rectangular shape
Maybe more robots on the field (say 3 on 3)
Maybe obstacles all over the field and the center of the field will be excluded for a safe zone to score points

Barry Bonzack 29-12-2004 14:35
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Perhaps we'll be allowed to use fireworks as nonfunctional decorations.


oooo... perhaps Dave Lavery is foreshadowing the China Regional!

eh? eh?

(man I'm bored)

MikeDubreuil 30-12-2004 12:59
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I have just recently heard this rumor:

The current FIRST field is at the end of it's life. FIRST wants fields to last 5 years and this would be the 6th year for this field.

Pure speculation:
Dave Lavery said to look at John Neun's picture, that picture shows a robot playing the 1998 game Ladder Logic. The last time the field was significantly changed :ahh:

Could we see a major field change this year?!

Joe Matt 30-12-2004 13:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil
I have just recently heard this rumor:

The current FIRST field is at the end of it's life. FIRST wants fields to last 5 years and this would be the 6th year for this field.

Pure speculation:
Dave Lavery said to look at John Neun's picture, that picture shows a robot playing the 1998 game Ladder Logic. The last time the field was significantly changed :ahh:

Could we see a major field change this year?!
Possible, acutally, very likely, but I don't think we will see a general square size change, nor a change in the expensive controll areas. Think about it guys, middle is out, mabey it pertains to the field as well as the scoring objects (heck, mabey even the amount of time given...)

Bharat Nain 30-12-2004 14:08
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So the real hint is

While wearing Amethyst colored glasses, John Neun gave George Burns the following riddle: "Look closely and you will see something between Pi, You and Me."

Any ideas? I have too many

Madison 30-12-2004 14:15
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It's probably a good idea to keep discussion of the official hint in one thread -- not this one, either.

MissInformation 30-12-2004 14:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bharat Nain
So the real hint is

While wearing Amethyst colored glasses, John Neun gave George Burns the following riddle: "Look closely and you will see something between Pi, You and Me."

Any ideas? I have too many
Tigers! The robots are going to have to go up against tigers! While trapped in a lifeboat! PETA is going to have a field day with this...

Okay, it should go to one thread, but I think the tiger statement should stay...

Heidi

(just recently re-read Life of Pi)


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