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Alright thats it. before i get more confuse.. here is the 2005 game clue...

Dave says "2005 game is PIMP"

GOOD LUCK... :)

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Definitely agree with Fin that we should just stop for now. I am game for anything and i know most of the teams know the game will be awesome. Until then kickback relax and enjoy the peace till January 8th. Then it's all over and the mayhem and fun begins. :D

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maybe a 5-6 sided field with a funnel shape in the middle going along with the many sided field and the imfamous "V"

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Just wanted to point out that "the center is out" may not refer to a hole or pit of doom, despite how fun thatd be, that would make the field like a donut/bagel. It may be referring to the tasks not being centrally located like they have been recently. (This may be useful if there are more teams on the field)

four...
 

What if "four is not enough" is referring to the fourth dimension, time? Could we be given more than 2 minutes this year to play our game?

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PIMP - Precisely Invented for Mechanical Perfection
- Pole, Incline, Manuevers, Pot

Whatever it is, PIMP is definitely an acronym of some sort.

Back to the other hint at hand:

Four is not enough, whether that be

4 goals
4 ways to score points
4 bots on the field
4 things to do to win (2004: corral, shoot, cap, hang; 2003: Topple, stack, place, and conquer[hill])
and 4 of anything else. Whatever it is, {x:x > 4}

...and the center is out, meaning

The center is not an issue OR
The center is home of a smaller mission OR
The center is just not there, but it doesn't make the field a donut, or a washer, or a floppy disk, or whatever else. BUT, like in 2004, where OUTside the field there was a ball on tee and if knocked over in auto mode balls were released, there could be an autonomous mode target in the center this time.

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“Four is not enough, and the center is out”

What? This makes no sense. & Dave you didn’t really add anything to the conversation.

This doesn't really look like one of FIRST's standard answers. It looks misleading and probably so far from the norm that it can't be considered. They usually put something out about score or how the score is going to be calculated. As far as I can remember they have not deviated from this cryptic plan. I would just like to square things off and get rid of all these negative ideas.

I’d like to sum things up by saying, all of the teams will know what they have in store for us in January. Let’s just sit tight, drink some eggnog, & take a look back on a great year.

Re: four...
 

Hypothetically...If this were an OFFICIAL hint... that would be my guess because it is SOOOO far out of the box. Nice one Barry :) .
Any-who time is money and there isn't a whole lot of money left for Christmas shopping (both ways) happy holidays everyone :D .

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When I hear "the center is out," the only thing I can think of is the The Second Coming by W.B. Yeats

Matt

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maybe if you go into the center of the field it will turn on autonomous mode... i.e you can't cross over under driver control

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I don't know what to make of this, but in John V Neun's name, the center is the V, but Dave intentionally left it out of that first post saying only John Neun.

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Unless of course you're like my team and don't have time to speculate because we have plenty of work left to do before the season starts.

Getting back on topic though, I like the baseball analogy that has been used. It DOES coincide with criteria that FIRST established when it went to the community following the end of the 2004 season asking for input for the new game, involving the human player as a much more important role or so it would seem in that scenario. ;)

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=19
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=46
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=47

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I already knew about all that discussion, but I was just saying maybe that V in the name is the only center that is left out, maybe it is not at all related to the game or field. But instead, it is confirming our suspicion that the greater hint lies within John Neun.

It really is amazing how far we run with all of this stuff. LOL

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There could be a target in the center of the field and it gets out of the center and moves around and you have to use the IR beacon to get to it. There are many ways it could be played with or used.