Do you like the new logo?
 

There has been alot of negative feedback to the new FIRST logo.

If you havent seen it or want to see discussion on it, look here

But I would like to know what everyone thinks about it.

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I read the Q&A .. but.. but.. still.

Why oh why did they change it?! I .. really like the original better. Oh, sadness.

Maybe I'll get used to this, though.. in time.

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Ok, I'll be the one to stand up and take the punishment. I like it. I think the old one looked like a first draft of something made from Microsoft Paint. Basically an undeveloped idea.

The new one seems like they modernized it. The next logical progression. It's got a clean look to it. I didn't like the line art, it drew your eye to the lines, and then your thinking of the 3 shapes. As opposed to the Image that's presented now in it's entirety. Simply being a catchy image. Probably not a good explanation, but that's how my brain sees it. :D

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And this new one was made with Word Art :)

I don't really like it. I think the older one was more memorable and eye-catching. I imagine the old one is better for banners and things like that.

Oh.. and man those are some harsh choices! I don't think I'll ever cut my fingers off before I use it, but I still don't like it :P

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I prefer the old text over the new italicized text. But the graphic part certainly is improved.

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I must say that I really don't like it.

I think I could deal with it if there wasn't so much perspective on it.
The triangle looks lopsided and the square looks too small and crooked...too much like a diamond.

However, its not so much the actual way it looks that I don't like, but the change of the symbol itself. To me, the old FIRST logo has been a symbol that represents a huge part of my life... something thats changed my life completely.
The old FIRST symbol means so much to me that it will be hard to see the new one as meaning the same thing...although I know it does, it will be hard to get used to.

I don't know about others, but whenever I see the FIRST logo that I am so used to, I think of all of the wonderful things it's associated with. I hope I can get used to it and come to like it.

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Maybe change is good, but I don't like this one. The old logo was balanced well horizontally. This logo seems to teeter off to one side. The triangle's dominence does not do very well for the logo, the old equal weight between all shapes seemed to work better.

Just my .02

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I have to go with no. The old one just had a feeling of "stenght, pride, and power". This new one sems childish, it doesn't seem as formal, or as universal or friendly for documentation. :(

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The new one seems kinda fruity. i dunno. the old one had more... depth in it.
but either way we still <3 :D FIRST

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alright, personally what i think is, old FIRST logo was pretty cool. it's maybe because all of us got used to looking at it so much. and now at this point when i first saw the new logo i dont like it compared to the old one just because i am used to the old one. we all will eventually get used to it after a while... :)

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Def dont like the new one looks like a kid went into paint and made it, I like the old one it looked professional and sleek

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The circle has become a U, and the text looks funny, but time will tell.


Wetzel

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It seems to me that veteran FIRST'ers hate it, and new FIRST'ers dont mind it.

The emotional attachment is not as profound i guess.

I hate it. I want the old one back. </new logo>

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Its alright, but I think it will catch on eventually.

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The new logo doesn't seem to have much appeal to me... When I glance at it, it looks like a mess of colors.....

There is, however, is the fact that the veterans associate the old logo with the memories that they had over the years of being part of FIRST. Whenever they see the "old" logo, they remember the accomplishments they have done, the rewards recieved, the alliances they made, the recognition they recieved, etc...

The "new" logo seems to dismiss the past, and make us feel as though we are stepping into a new territory, when otherwise, it is the same organization behind the new look. It will definitely take some time to get used to the new logo, maybe a season or two will do it, then it will be the good ol' lovable logo that it was always intended to be.

But for now, I'm sticking with old school until I feel the new logo has its impact on me.

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Here's a problem my team might have with this new logo. We just painted out trailer last year, so it has the old logo. I seriously doubt we will repaint the logo on there...so I guess you could call us old school. :p But, I don't like the new logo at all! I didn't really see a need for the new one...just my views on it...

-Kyle

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i'm with swampdude, i like the new logo. i think the font looks better, and the pictorial part is simpler. personally i never much liked the original FIRST logo either. when i first saw it, i wasn't sure what to make of it...i'd much prefer something more like the MLB or NBA logos, which at least give you some sort of idea what they're representing. i see someone walking through the mall with a FIRST logo on the back of their shirt, and i'm gonna think "ok, that fella must like shapes" instead of "that guy is part of a competitive robotics league".

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To me the hardest part of this change, is the fact that we have recieved permission to modify the old logo, paid set up fees for getting it screenprinted and embroidered, and now we can no longer use it. The other part is that when designing a website, you now have to form the website around the new logo, because you can't modify the background, and just sticking it on a website as is, in place of the old just wouldn't look right if you dont really have any white or black spaces on your site, as in with our website http://www.rage173.org where we have no white or black spaces, we will now have to redesign the site to make the FIRST logo look correct, and we will have to change around the font, because they also what certain fonts used with the new logo.

While I understand they want to re-brand and the reasons behind it, it just seems like it has become a larger hassle then they may have thought.

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I would agree to that...except for one thing. What would that robot look like? I mean, FIRST teams crank out some interesting robots!

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i'm not sure...maybe something similar to what team Hammond uses on their website, or a team 75ish arm and claw. or maybe it doesn't even have to be a complete robot, instead, some inter meshing gears, for example.

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i don't like it .. you can't just glance at it and know exactly that it is FIRST. But i am so glad they kept the triangle circle and square ... But they seem unproportional ....

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It's a concept.

Bring it up in 2019, when FIRST would be due for a new logo* :D

*That figure is assuming the old logo was from 1989--I know it was on stuff from 1993.

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My feelings about the logo are still mixed. I like the absence of the black lines around the shapes, but the new design seems squashed. I like the rectangular design better than the new squarer one. The italic text also somehow strikes me as strange, it made me begin to think that the word FIRST looked funny after a while, something I never noticed in two years of seeing the old logo. Now that I think about this, this is probably because the FIR is seperated slightly from the ST, which are also connected, unlike the other letters. The addition of the gray 3D effects may also make this logo harder to put on some t-shirts or giveaways. For this purpose the the black lines might be helpful, especially around the top of the circle, which blends into white backgrounds.

I'll have to see if it grows on me...

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IT'S JUST A LOGO

BAH!

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Wow. I love how FIRST misuses their own logo on the page that tells us how we can't misuse it. On http://www.usfirst.org/4vol/resource...ics/index.html their red navigation bar is too close to the logo. (And personally, I don't like how it looks on the page, anyways. It looks really odd in grayscale. It's too square for the page, too.) I guess they don't expect people to 'learn by example' :)

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I don't really care for the new logo too much... it looks like one of the higher ups at FIRST was like "Hey Jim*, we need a flashy logo, you know, one that the kids can relate to... see what you can do!" And thus, Jim worked tediously into the night running on 3 cups of coffee and a granola bar. Using only MS Paint and Word, Jim created the current FIRST logo.

And that my friends is how I think the current logo came about. :]


(*Jim is a fake name used to protect the actual creator of this logo.)

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This logo is so bland. FIRST claims that it is an "Evolution" that coincides with the robobtics competition, but it is not in anyway. The logo got worse, while in real life, FIRST got better...

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It's OK...but I really don't think there was any need to change it at all... I'm just glad they kept the triangle/circle/square format... :]

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No. No. And... Oh yeah, no, I do not like the new logo. Too light, too soft. The old logo had just this wonderful thing about it. The old logo represented FIRST as not another stereotypical 'student' organization, but as a force to be reckoned with.

With the change in the logo, I can't imagine what's going to happen to the medals that are handed out. I hope they don't change.

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July 30th, 1991

edit: DOH!! Link is bwoken...

But basically, it was the trademark database that said that above quote.

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i really must say that i dislike the new logo quite a bit. don't get me wrong here, progress is always good, i just think that in this instance, they took a wrong turn somewhere. ...well, and i really have a special place in my heart for nice, straight lines ;)

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This situation reminds me of hair dye. Sometimes, you just need a change. It can look harsh at first, but in time, it grows on you. Then the dye will grow out or fade away and it'll be time for something new. And I mean, come on, everybody has a bad hair day every once and a while, cut the new logo some slack.

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is it me or is the logo look a bit dated. I think it looks like its retro and could fit in in the early 90s or the 80s.

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I dont like it much, it looks too much like all those crappy cell shaded video games that are flooding the market

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I've become attached to the old logo. Its been a part of me for 6 years now...maybe I'll feel the same way about this one in another 6 years? This one just looks...childish. Perhaps its because there is some sort of TV deal for this year and it needed more of a mainstream appeal??

Don't get me wrong when I say childish though...the FLL logo is great, IMHO. Its edgy - it looks exciting. This new logo just kinda looks funky. I can't really say what I mean. I don't hate it...not at all. I could think of much worse things that could have been done to the logo. Its just different, thats all. Perhaps its the offset of the logo from the words that gets me the most, but then again, FIRST is all about being outside the box!

Just my opinions..DON'T HATE ME!!!

Kev :]

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Who was thinking about a FIRST tattoo?

Hopefully they passed on it!

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I really don't like the new logo. The version of it over black is not soooo bad, though, the colors look bad but it looks better than the white version in my opinion.

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I feel there is way too much perspective, the colors look weak and washed out, and that the text looks plain not to mention tastelessly off-center. It probably wouldn't look too bad with a black outline. O well It does't bother me THAT much. I have better things to worry about.

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I'm really starting to dislike the new logo. I am being forced to use it in the making of a new brochure for my team. The logo looks washed out. It doesn't fit right. It's to tall. It's not wide enough... grrr... why did they have to abandon the old one!? I liked the old one! Think I might stage my own protest and keep using the old one. :ahh:

Guess it's also because I've been used to the old logo for so long now.

*starts chanting* BRING BACK THE OLD LOGO!!!

~ Jill

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Does anyone have a digital copy of the old logo? The ones I find on google don't look as nice.

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I say we redo this poll at the end of the season. I bet the difference will be enormous.

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I have to agree with you on that. At first, i was a little shocked at the old logo, but as I was designing a new website for our team, it really started to grow on me, maybe it was tht I had just looked at it long enough, but I am really starting to like the new logo