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Amethyst is a "stone of spirituality and contentment",$@# bestows stability, strength and perfect peace. It balances the energies of the physical, emotional and intellectual. Kind of appropriate I think.

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Corey... i think you brought up an Exelent point. Pi has infinite digit. what was there in FIRST that was infinite? any game, or any accidents?

edit - I was just talking to Kelly (kel D.) and was discussing the clue. she said maybe Amethyst (purple) means that we will have plexiglass which isnt going to be clear. (if this exact topic was brought up before in the thread i apologize).

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As posted earlier, Pi when capitalized means product in math terms. The use of pi is for the calculations and is the infinite number.

The clue would the say, " If you look closely you will see something between 'the product', You and Me. "

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well, more related is the fact that it: allows one to see with an open, intuitive mind.

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Maybe they will multiply the amount of points of the two aliances to get an overall score of the match, this points could help for seeding...

Maybe, just an idea. :cool:

David

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After much thought and many hours of sleeping on this and thinking about this hint i've come to one conclusion. First has given us a hint that is similar to last year, but related to a different topic, i think this hint refers to scoring methods and alliances more than field design or layout.
Yes it does tell you some of the layout in my opinion. I think by what it says that it will be as it wasin the 'old days', a hexagon field. We will once again have alliances in my opinion. and we will have many ways to score.
I know that this has been said in the thread previously but this is part of my idea that we will have a hexagonal field. They will but in 3 aliances, id like to think that each alliance will have 2 teams on it, but i'm not so sure with the threes, because obviously FIRST is liking threes. So does that mean its going to be a 1 V 1 V 1, or a 3 V 3 V 3, i don't know but that just sounds very choatic.
The Amethyst colored sun glasses i don't know refer to a blue between 2 alliances as much as it refers to a 3rd, 'neutral' alliance. My belief of the third alliance comes from the scoring factor. Amethyst can't be used as Red + Blue = Violet, because if you add the scores in qualifing it is okay, however you would run into trouble scoring the elemination matches because everyone would be getting the same score. which brings in if this is a hint to a blurred boundry does that mean its going to be just one big alliance as 2001 was, jeesh i hope not it wasn;t as fun or nearly enthusiastic for the kids as it has been. (well atleast not for me that is.)
I think all the threes refer to 3 ways to score. as far as i know since 2001 there have only been 3 ways to score in each game. 2004 you had small balls, big balls, and hanging. 2003 you had boxes, stacks, and hill. 2002 you had balls, goals, and goals and balls. 2001 you had the endzone, time, and balls. So i think this means once again it will be a three way scoring ability.
The something between Pi, You, Me. If you look closely you notice that the 'o' is in the center, however if you look more closely you will see that they are all SEPERATED by a comma. this leads me to believe once against that you are different from me, and pi is different from both you and me in terms of a boundary.
Also i think that there is going to be a neutral zone where no points can be scored or a place where robots can't go, but need to, or something like that.

thats my 2 cents.

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In going along with the Baseball theme:

Pi Shwerty

Has less to do with John and George than the previous mentioned Pie, but this guy is named Pi.

Might be interesting to note that this year the Red Sox won the World Series this year (w00t!) after the CRUSHING defeat of the Yankess (Double-w00t!). Anyone that knows about baseball, especially around the Boston area, knows that there is a huge rivalry between Boston and the Yankess.

John and George played in Boston, Pi played for the Yankees.

Something between Pi, youandme? I have no idea, I'm just throwing this out there.

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perhaps it is refrencing a geographical feature in between boston and new york

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So the answer to the game is Pennsylvania? Eh....

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Nah, we're south of both Boston and NYC. Hartford, maybe? ;)

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I looked at the email from FIRST and didn't see a comma between You and Me. If that is the case, then You and Me may be the something between Pi.

You and Me probably refer to the driver stations. Pi may refer to the playing field or something else FIRST has come up with. Probably is something else. ;)

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Sorry if I'm being repetitive I havent had time to rumage through the entire thread.

First
pi is equal to 180 degrees
Baseball diamond: the number of degrees from the pitchers mound is equal to pi
(ie half circle of sorts)

George Burns:Baseball player, refer to the previous description
Comedian who coincidently loved his liquer(spell?)
Ameyst...(cant spell) gem stone believed by the greeks to ward of the symptoms of drunkeness

Also could someone tell me what type of gems and such are used in lasers and infrared beacons.

"Look closely and you will see something between Pi, You and Me."

Well I get two things out of this.
It's quite expensive to change the field shape, so this tells me its possible to have the same shaped field AND there is something between the two driver stations.

Secondly I don't think that there will be a light sensor or anything in that middle because Infrared is beyond humans natural ability to see because of the light spectrum.

Pi is what has me stumped,

Just some thoughts to ponder

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I think we need to keep some valid hints active in this assessment:

There's the new official hint

There's the one that begat the new official hint

There's the original done in the style of the past, as "the manual signature hint"

I'm certain that these 3 are the real deal.

Now that said, lets look at how 2 hexagonal fields fit on a 24' wide carpet arrangement in the previous space - see attachment

It helps to see things at scale. 1 Hexagonal field would likely be too large if it used more than 24' - and 1 small field doesn't seem enough. But you can see how 2 together look like glasses, and merged make amethyst (purple). These 2 fields make more than enough space for 3 drivers per side and room for human players stations as well. This would be a great way to move more teams through more matches - 6 at a time (keep in mind, all regionals have increased registrants). Though I think the usual size bots are a little too big, but Dave mentioned in this post a while back, he wanted to reduce the overall package. So I think we're building smaller. Also someone asked why I thought we were getting less motors. Well if we are going to a smaller package, and they sold off all the drill's after last season, maybe they'll leave us with the CIM, FP, globe, seat and van, since we're working in less space.

Lastly considering the dessert post, and now pi - I'm sticking with the thought of either donut (inner tube) game pieces (pi), or an actual pie shape. I can picture Human players standing in the middle there tossing the donuts on pipes at the center of each hex.

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You know sometimes you get those things in your cereal. Well once I got this thing I don't know what its called but its like blue and red, and if you look at it through blue colored lenses then it filters the blue out and you can see the red writing well and if you do the same with red lenses then you can see blue writing. Could this have anything to do with Amethyst colored glasses and the human players role?

I think this thing that is hard to see has something to do with the human players role. Pi seems like its just a reference to a circle thats it, and John Neun and George Burns seems like it has to be a reference to baseball maybe something with the triple play.

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Oh the joy of trying to figure out the game just over a week ahead of time. :p
Red+Blue=purple
Blue is the color of water, red of fire. They wouldnt have fire in a FIRST game, so it must be a water game! :yikes: