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Shouldn't the bill of materials be out by now? Maybe they're keeping somthing secret. Or they're behind in posting. Or i just havn't seen it yet. :confused:

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Maybe they want to make sure:

1.) The field design is set, last year the lip to retain the balls in the coral was added the night before kickoff.

2.) They have it correct and have adequete prints. Last year the prints and BOM released at the kickoff had several errors. I would rather they delay it a day or two after the kickoff and hve it correct the first time.

3.) They want us to go crazy. I remember seeing last year field BOM and saying, "Are we building a half pipe?"

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Amethyst Contrast Enhancement (A.C.E.) lenses were developed to improve discrimination between different colored objects on flight instrument panels.

Will we be 'looking closely' for different colored objects, perhaps in autonomous (unassisted) mode? Is Dave's long association with aviation-related subjects coming through here?

Or are they just jerking us around for the fun of it??

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Neither that, nor the specs for the 2005 Innovation FIRST control system is out yet..

Pretty odd.. eh?

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OR........ They are going to make us use the same controller from last year. IFI saves costs on the design of a new control system, and FIRST gets a better deal on them.

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Okay so here is where i stand.

We will have 2 alliances with three team members per alliance. It will be held in a hexagonal field. It will have some kind of disk or circular object to score. possibly one team controls the object or objects and is scored on how long they hold on to it. idk.

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I think that its more obvious that they have not yet announced any major changes to the FIRST control system.

Last season was by no means the norm with the release of an entirely new control system, especially the different programming language. They had to give teams a heads up (and that was only really with the use of the edubo- robovation thing)

the controller will be the same as last year
my $.02

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Maybe not what they are holding! Between John, George and the Drum (pi) are Paul and Ringo. I don't know about Paul, but maybe the game has something to do with RINGS!

Or did someone already mention that?

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Hm....this is all very interesting....although it seems like its going to end up much more simple than this....

After they release what it is, we are going to laugh at these guesses, unless someone actually guesses right!

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Don't know if someone has posted this yet. The unassisted triple plays were completed when the first baseman touched second base.

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Everyone is thinking that its going to be baseballs...how about baseball bats? These would be harder to handle than balls, thus providing more of a challenge.

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the bats could be really harmfull to other robots. and i can see somehow the game being described like battlebots and that would be really bad. I know every time i talk about FIRST i have to talk about how much better we are then battlebots. I think FIRST is going to try to stay to things that are mostly non harmfull, execpt the bins, but that would be really really cool to have to get bats or use them in someway.


my 2 cents

Official 2005 Clue Thread
 

It is my extravagant hypothesis that the purple gem is relating to people who generally wear rings and such items that have gems on them. The ring is in such a fashion that it is circular in nature. This circle in conjunction with cycles refers to a continuous loop in the programming. With loops established as an important entity, the field must thus be created in the shaped curvatures of an enormous donut. Although, the center circle, often referred to by high ranked historians as the 'donut hole', is not in the shape of a circle. Yes that is right, FIRST is trying to through us off with a doughnut hole not in a typical design, but rather we must look further into the riddle. The pi situation is not only that of a tasty cherry pie that can be eaten through la bouche. A pie is constructed in a pan in which you can find the circumference by applying a method known as the "angle referencing technique". You simply take two triangles, most usefully the George burns triangle and the John Neun triangle, and add up the sum of the angles you get 360 degrees. With a circle, there is 360 degrees of rotation and with the "angle referencing technique" giving us 360 degrees as well, we can approach the assumption that there will be a triangular donut hole. So now we have a large circular field perimeter and a triangle in the middle. FIRST, I am on to you.
The gem is also known as a purple type of stone that, when light is shone through it, the light is magically transformed into purple. Have you ever mixed red with blue, I bet not, but it becomes purple as well! With a blue alliance and a red alliance, mixing them would cause a purplish tint. The game must some how include some sort of working together between the alliances. What that task is exactly, well, FIRST made it quite clear. If it won’t for my vast knowledge in baseball, we would not be blessed with knowing that George Burns and John Neun are the only players to have completed a triple play. This is not to be looked to far into, overanalyzes can get you nowhere. Thus, to compete a purple task, both alliances must go to the baseball field, tangent to the circle field, and complete a triple play. Ha, FIRST, you can't get me.
:confused: If this is your reaction to my hypothesis, then I am sorry for my congruently advanced knowledge of FIRST robotics riddles. I have no choice but to leave you with this simple summary.
In summary of my life long career of studying FIRST, there will be a circular ring with some sort of triangle in the middle where you can complete a task that involves one robot from each alliance partner to achieve extra points.

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To be honest, I have discussed the hint with teammates and read the forum. I did not want to think toooo much in to the game because then I knew I would loose sight of it being a game. Here is what I have come up with.

Six sided prism. Maybe finding something on the field. Three "things", either moved, or placed somewhere. Human players must throw something on to the field as last year.

The things I have listed seem pretty certian. I have some other theories also: I like the idea of something being inside some type of a pyramid; I have seen a lot of beacons, maybe it could be the key to the game, something. Hexagonal shaped playing field could be it also. OR even!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAVING SOME TYPE OF PYRAMID WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE PLAYING FIELD THAT EVERYONE HAS TO LOOK THROUGH TO EVEN SEE THE PLAYING FIELD! THEN! three of something must be placed somewhere. Or three triggers must be turned on.... also, I believe hanging will come back this year!

Thanks for reading! Good luck to everyone's guesses! Good luck during the six weeks also.

Grant

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that would be really cool to have a pyramid shape covering the top of the Field made plexi glass or something so people can see though it but still have it interact with the robots like them having to grab something in the top of it or hit things on the sides or something that would be really cool.