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Petey 01-08-2005 02:03 PM

Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Can anyone with a higher knowledge of the workings of the color-sensitive cameras enumerate upon the possible problems that may arise from confusion between the green panelings of the vision goals and green shirts worn by certain teams?

In short, is it plausible that robots might be distracted by certain shades of t-shirt green and be thrown off course?

--Petey

MrToast 01-08-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
What if you made your robot green to throw off other tracking bots? A little devious and non-GP, as I'll be the first to admit, but definitely a smart strategy...

Dave

Petey 01-08-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
I like the way you think, Mr. Toast. I like the way you think.

--Petey

billbuckner 01-08-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrToast
What if you made your robot green to throw off other tracking bots? A little devious and non-GP, as I'll be the first to admit, but definitely a smart strategy...

Dave

Could be a problem if your partner also had a tracker.

karinka13 01-08-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
We're thinking the same thing over here...would flashing a green light or spray painting your robot green be legal? We still don't have manual access.

Roland 01-08-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrToast
What if you made your robot green to throw off other tracking bots? A little devious and non-GP, as I'll be the first to admit, but definitely a smart strategy...

Dave

There's an interesting thought.

shyra1353 01-08-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billbuckner
Could be a problem if your partner also had a tracker.

you do as Dave said .. communicate before the game and make sure you don't run into that problem ...

kaszeta 01-08-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland
There's an interesting thought.

Rule <R26> claims "No devices or decorations are permitted on the robot that are intended to jam or interfere with the operation of the vision system (i.e. changing robot color to confuse opponent’s vision system)."

billbuckner 01-08-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shyra1353
you do as Dave said .. communicate before the game and make sure you don't run into that problem ...

Or, use a switchable green light.

Jedi Padawan 01-08-2005 02:14 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
yeah well think about it too if your goal is autonomously picking up that vision goal and your partners is too then you'll set there in a tug of war like on the animation... but you do have a valid point it could be a problem something we'll have to test I guess.

Noah Melamed 01-08-2005 02:14 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
In The robot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Section 5 The Robot
<R26> No devices or decorations are permitted on the robot that are intended to jam or interfere with the operation of the vision system (i.e. changing robot color to confuse opponent’s vision system).

No mention of shirts though

Petey 01-08-2005 02:15 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Thanks for the info on R26.

I'll post about team shirts.

--Petey

Roland 01-08-2005 02:15 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaszeta
Rule <R26> claims "No devices or decorations are permitted on the robot that are intended to jam or interfere with the operation of the vision system (i.e. changing robot color to confuse opponent’s vision system)."

Our school color is green, it's not intended to interfere with the sensors...

karinka13 01-08-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaszeta
Rule <R26> claims "No devices or decorations are permitted on the robot that are intended to jam or interfere with the operation of the vision system (i.e. changing robot color to confuse opponent’s vision system)."

Now how would the judges know if it was intentional? I happen to like the color gren very much and would love to have a green bot... :D

Jay H 237 01-08-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karinka13
We're thinking the same thing over here...would flashing a green light or spray painting your robot green be legal? We still don't have manual access.

There is no rule against painting or anodizing your robot green (or any other color for that matter).

I haven't seen the sensors yet this year but I would hope they have the ability to adjust the sensitivity.

[EDIT] What I'm referring to per the rule is there's no rule against having a green bot to start with. You just can't change it's color from match to match.


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