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Aaron Lussier 10-01-2005 18:37

Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
I'm thinking a gymnast, they can have the tetra, front roll with it, place it on the bot and backflip on to the pad. No more than a few second per tetra.

-Aaron

greencactus3 10-01-2005 18:40

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Originally Posted by tkwetzel
The human players do not need to be fast runners. Considering the short distance, they will not get up to running speed by the time they get to the robot or back to the pressure pad. They will just need to be quick in manuervering, because turning around will be the part that takes more time. I also liked the comment that long legs would be beneficial, because they probably would be.

exactly. and sprinters are not meant to do sudden stops. so basketball people might be the best choice.

Eugenia Gabrielov 10-01-2005 18:42

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I'd like to present another aspect to human player coordination. Wouldn't you possibly have more than 1 running back and forth at the same time? It would be helpful to teach your human player potentials to run in a straight line and be courteous to their ally human players.

phrontist 10-01-2005 18:52

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In soviet russia, YOU stop moving when robot leaves pressure pad!

You're right, we need to whip someone into shape. I think we'll actually make a pressure pad and hook it up to a computer so we can time people...

Whatever you do, make sure they are using actual tets, because running with a weight is much easier.

Petey 10-01-2005 18:57

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Luckily, our team has two track stars on it.

:D

--Petey

Travis Hoffman 10-01-2005 18:59

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Who says the human player has to ever leave the pad....

Eugenia Gabrielov 10-01-2005 19:03

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Originally Posted by T. Hoffman
Who says the human player has to ever leave the pad....

There may be situations throughout the round where it is simply more convenient to hit up the "human player" side of the field for tetras. For example, it may save time if you are going for a goal on that side of the field, or the other side may be clogged up with offense-defense action so you have to get your tetras from this side. I definitly see what you're saying based on strategy, but it is better to have your human player prepared and not use them, rather then to run into a situation where they need to be quick and them not be prepared.

Jake177 10-01-2005 19:04

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Originally Posted by T. Hoffman
Who says the human player has to ever leave the pad....

I agree. The "automated" loading stations seem much more efficient for getting tetras. If you can design something to pick up a tetra put on your robot by a human player, you can probably design something to take the tetras off of the stands on the other side of the field.

lilszek24 10-01-2005 19:14

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our problem isn't the fact that our human player needs to be in shape, but we need to find someone who is calm enough to just stand on the pad and wait to do what they have to. and not be jumping up down. making our robot stop every two seconds

Koko Ed 10-01-2005 19:18

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The human player this year has to be of sound mind and body. Sound mind becasue they have to be aware of the game, understand the rules, pay attention to whats going on but have the discipline to sty calm so not to mistakenly disable the robot. They have to be of sound body because those Tetras are heavy (like lifting a small chair. Puts real stress on the forearms. They have to be careful when carrying them to the field and they may have to lift them higher to give them to the robot.
The human play is going to have to be at the top of their game this year.

Petey 10-01-2005 21:02

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Has anyone else actually timed the scoring and loading necessities?

It may surprise you how long it takes.

Automated will be long as well, I think.

--Petey

Kyle 10-01-2005 21:05

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Another thing to remember is the that the communication between the drivers or coach and the HP is going to be really important as when to go out for the loading zone and such. Also the human player is going to have to be very familiar with placing the tetra on or in the robot so there are as few missed seconds as possible, there are some great exercises that i can recommend for anyone who knows they will be the human player, (I have some running stuff and lifting stuff from football camp at University or Maryland.)
Also remember that all the track stars that you have are a great advantage but most track people are used to lots or long distance, unless they do sprints, and not having to carry a 8.5lb odd shape and place it then running back to a still position.

Ianworld 10-01-2005 21:36

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I was teasing our human player from last year. He was new to the team and a freshman but turned out to be an amazing shot. You could count the number of shots he missed on 3 hands (and we were a ball collector). "Hey tal, how're those pressure switch skills, any good at standing around, etc... I think he's going to be in the stands this time ;)

Actually i think its goin to be usefull to be tall. If your human player can reach seven or eight feet up your robot won't have to come down as far to get a Tetra. Of course most of this is moot if your robot can get the tetras off the auto stations. But even robots that use the auto stations will probably get blocked from going there and will rush to the human stations to get a tetra.

tamirms 10-01-2005 21:37

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Is the human player allowed to carry more than one tetra, and place them on the robot?

Kyle 10-01-2005 21:39

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Originally Posted by tamirms
Is the human player allowed to carry more than one tetra, and place it on the tetra?

No as of now they can only take one tetra at a time just like the auto loading zone, to get more then one the bot has to leave the zone and then drive back on and that means the HP has to run back and forth again.


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