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dhitchco 11-01-2005 11:39
Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
Maybe Dean will provide a Segue scooter for the teams to use by their human players to race from the pad to the sideline while carrying a Tetra.

Hmmmm... an autonomous Segue scooter (hands-free) too.

I'll stick to having the team do "synchronized" running but no jumping on the pad.

Anchi 11-01-2005 11:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twstdkittie
Are you completely chucking the idea of using the hps? Cuz I wouldnt throw out the possibility. If anything were to go wrong, you would need a backup plan, and if you throw out ideas now, you won't be able to come up w/ them on the spot later when you need them.
that is exactly the only reason we will havew them out ther.

HINT: a machanical clone of an out of bounds sentinal

KTorak 11-01-2005 12:12
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We have many Cross Country team members on our team. Speed is no problem ;)

Steve P 11-01-2005 19:39
Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
I dont think human palyers need any skill this year. Last year you depended on them for shooting, and could carry the match. This year thier little more than trained dogs who run back and forth. Sure some can run faster than others, but what does that get you, 5-8 seconds over the course of an entire match maybe?

Aaron 11-01-2005 19:47
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well, with all the penalties the human player can inflict this year, i plan to drill my teams. Every point deduction recieved the will be punished by as many floggings!

Brandon Holley 11-01-2005 19:49
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While I can completely see where people are coming from with the training and other ways to practice, I dont see it being that huge. Yes they will need to be fast, but they will also need to be very cool under pressure. One wrong move and poof 20 point penalty and a disabled robot. If a human player trips and stumbles onto the field, what do you think could happen? penalties, disablings...i really dont know. A human player this year needs to be smart and light on their feet. You can only load one at a time anyway, so a quick trip there and back shouldnt be too difficult.

Conor Ryan 11-01-2005 20:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron
well, with all the penalties the human player can inflict this year, i plan to drill my teams. Every point deduction recieved the will be punished by as many floggings!
i agree lets beat them into shape. But i'm faced with a controversey, should i use a Cat O' Nine Tails or the Regular Whip, for some reason people won't let me use the studded one?


actually can we just not use a human player? and skip the risk of a point reduction?

Petey 11-01-2005 20:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve P
I dont think human palyers need any skill this year. Last year you depended on them for shooting, and could carry the match. This year thier little more than trained dogs who run back and forth. Sure some can run faster than others, but what does that get you, 5-8 seconds over the course of an entire match maybe?
Quite.

They are little more than glorified switches: trained monkeys. No real skill--just the ability to start, stop, and carry.

We could train a robot to do what they do.

--Petey

Anchi 12-01-2005 00:54
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heh well plans change dont they? human will be out main form of loading. lol

tribotec_ca88 12-01-2005 06:47
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LoL :yikes: this is an interesting thread...

I personally donīt think it needs to be someone extremely fast, unless your teamīs strategy relies dependently on your human player. Above all, you need someone thatīs focused, willing to pay attention to whatīs going on and prepared to react when all goes wrong. The recipe for the ideal human player is someone disciplined and concentrated...Ok, and preferrably in shape, too :D

JulieB 12-01-2005 09:21
Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
I was just thinking of all the work the human player this year is going to do. They will have to be able to run very fast and if need repeadly so a team can keep loading there bot at the human loading zone.
My question to all the teams out there is:
Are you going to have your Human player practice running wind sprints and running with tetras the 10-16 ft? or whatever it is, or are you going to just let the one person who asks to do it?
this year there is going to be a lot of running by the human player back and forth over and over agian and if the human gets tired out that is time that there bot is turned off.

Most likely FIRST wont let the human players run do to safety

robolemur1236 12-01-2005 09:28
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i think that the hp will probably need more balance than speed, because you have to put the tetra onto the robot, and if you arrive too fast... kaput. speed is nice, but only in combination with balance. plus, if they have balance that probably means they have control, which means they could stay on the pad fairly easily.

we're going as a mix of auto and hp loading right now, any thoughts?

EddieMcD 12-01-2005 16:46
Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve P
I dont think human palyers need any skill this year. Last year you depended on them for shooting, and could carry the match. This year thier little more than trained dogs who run back and forth. Sure some can run faster than others, but what does that get you, 5-8 seconds over the course of an entire match maybe?
You mean those 5-8 seconds which can be used to cap one last goal, possibly for a tic-tac-toe or two (or even take one or more away from the opposition), and switch the scoring around quite dramatically? Or maybe you meant those 5-8 seconds in which you can sprint back to your end zone for an extra 10 points.

My point is that a well-trained HP can shave seconds compared to others, and those seconds can be vital.

bigqueue 15-01-2005 23:10
Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
Software people have had the secret for years now:

A steady diet of Jolt Cola and Twinkies.... :eek:

cinderblock 16-01-2005 01:09
Re: What are you going to do to your Human player?
 
Unless I'm mistaken, it'll be much more effective to just get the tetras from the auto loader, i mean, to latch onto the tetra and all, it would be easier to make to robot do the grabbing instead of human player doing the giving.


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