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Dave Flowerday 16-01-2005 18:38

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by russell
Its doable (assuming the RC is fast enough) but you are going to need a serious software genius.

The OI will only send the button values to the RC 40 times per second, so it's not doable. The data coming from the joystick over the button inputs will be changing much faster than that.

KVermilion 16-01-2005 18:50

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday
The OI will only send the button values to the RC 40 times per second, so it's not doable. The data coming from the joystick over the button inputs will be changing much faster than that.

It's Definatly doable... in hardware! :D

Allot of DAC work :rolleyes:

Max Lobovsky 16-01-2005 19:04

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Can you legally put that stuff on the OI end? What are the restrictions on whats inputting to the OI?

KVermilion 16-01-2005 19:35

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky
Can you legally put that stuff on the OI end? What are the restrictions on whats inputting to the OI?

AFAIK as long as you don't use any external power sources, or emmit any light... it's ok

Joe Ross 16-01-2005 21:08

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky
Can you legally put that stuff on the OI end? What are the restrictions on whats inputting to the OI?

<R69> says that any device connected to the joystick port must be only powered through the joystick port.

jgannon 16-01-2005 22:29

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KVermilion
AFAIK as long as you don't [...] emmit any light

Actually, there are pins set aside on the controller ports specifically for hooking up LEDs. It's all documented in the OI guide.

KVermilion 17-01-2005 00:45

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgannon
Actually, there are pins set aside on the controller ports specifically for hooking up LEDs. It's all documented in the OI guide.

Well.... those are specificly exempt, right? or are you saying... "you can use a 20 million candle power spotlight"?

Oh yeah, hooking up a "computer" to the joystick ports is also not allowed.

jgannon 17-01-2005 00:59

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
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Originally Posted by KVermilion
Well.... those are specificly exempt, right? or are you saying... "you can use a 20 million candle power spotlight"?

If you read the Operator Interface manual, it says that the LED pins provide 5V at 10mA. The rules don't appear to say what you can and can't connect there (except for a computer), but the current restrictions seem to limit you to LEDs. (Well, unless you have a 20mil candela lamp that only draws 10mA... I'd buy one. :p)

KVermilion 17-01-2005 01:16

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgannon
If you read the Operator Interface manual, it says that the LED pins provide 5V at 10mA. The rules don't appear to say what you can and can't connect there (except for a computer), but the current restrictions seem to limit you to LEDs. (Well, unless you have a 20mil candela lamp that only draws 10mA... I'd buy one. :p)

Well... technically, if it runs on the computer's battery.... ;) :D

seanwitte 17-01-2005 07:14

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Write a Windows application to collect user inputs from your interface device. Format the data and push it to the mini-RC via the serial port. Use the 8 PWM outputs on the mini-RC to drive servos coupled to 100k pots via gears. Connect the pots to OI inputs. Pots are not electrically connected to the OI and would have their own power supply. But is it legal?

Pat Fairbank 17-01-2005 10:34

Re: How to Make MS joystick work/has anyone used it in past?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanwitte
Write a Windows application to collect user inputs from your interface device. Format the data and push it to the mini-RC via the serial port. Use the 8 PWM outputs on the mini-RC to drive servos coupled to 100k pots via gears. Connect the pots to OI inputs. Pots are not electrically connected to the OI and would have their own power supply. But is it legal?

AFAIK there is no specific rule prohibiting this. But the spirit of the rule that prohibits the connecting of laptops to the joystick ports is that a PC or PDA is not allowed to control the robot. So, judging by the spirit of the rule, it is definitely not legal.


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