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Mike Norton 05-04-2002 17:20

It looks like team 157 is kicking everybodys butt. it doen't matter how fast you get the balls it is how the game is play that is given the most points and team 157 has the game plan for the seeding rounds.


Vocational school all the way!!!!!!

Marc P. 05-04-2002 21:59

38 may prove a powerful ally in elimination matches. Ball pickup speed means crap if goals can be moved around like it's nobody's business. We'v proved ourselves strong against a lot of people, and can easily protect and hold on to 2 goals.

Just my 2 cents.

Not to mention we look sexy ^_^

Steve Prairie 05-04-2002 22:32

Prediction:
 
Quote:

Ball pickup speed means crap if goals can be moved around like it's nobody's business.
Last Minute Prediction:

Balls will win the UTC Regional

I've seen many teams that can consistantly control ONE goal while scoring 20-30 balls in it. If two of those work together, 35 balls in ONE goal beats any goal-bot alliance.

...just calling it like i see it.

Steve Prairie
RAGE 173

soap108 06-04-2002 00:29

balls in quals; goals in elims?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kyle Fenton
...but there seams like there is more ball handlers than 2 goal grabbers in UTC.

Just from the scores, you can kinda tell that.

Almost every match I saw on the stream was loser had 30+ points. Can't wait to get the raw data and crunch a few stats!

Any 3-goal teams?

KA-108 :cool:

Gui Cavalcanti 06-04-2002 11:03

Wow, don't I feel like the odd man out
 
::nervous cough, followed by a meek hand being raised::

We're a one-goal-grabber robot.

Our partners were each one-goal-grabbing robots.

Only one of them could mess with balls successfully, and that was with the spinning wheel of doom that lobs balls into goals.

Where robots lack power, strategy can really make up for it.

We won at VCU.

It's kind of depressing, because I keep hearing only two goal grabbers and supreme ball handlers will ever be successful, while everyone else is what? Chopped liver waiting on the side of the field?

If dealt with correctly, ball handlers can be blocked from receiving any balls. 422 consistently ran defense against them at VCU, depending on which side of the field they wanted, because we have a fast, powerful enough robot. We have a broad backside to our robot, so we ended up pushing virtually every ball on a side (that an opposing ball bot was going for) into our home zone within the first 15 seconds of a match, while our partner (643, the ball handler) would take the other side of balls, loading them and scattering the ones they didn't get back into our home zone.

If a ball handler was foolish enough to collect balls from our home zone, or even better, take a goal to collect balls from our home zone, the obvious strategy would be to blockade them in so that they can't get past zone 3 back into their scoring zones. This might prove to be a bit tougher with high-power teams, but any robot can be pinned if you get them at the right angle.

That's my rant for right now... just don't ignore the little one-goal-grabbers and think of them as nothing. If they're built ruggedly and made to take a beating or two, they can easily succeed.

Marc P. 06-04-2002 12:02

Re: Prediction:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Prairie

Last Minute Prediction:

Balls will win the UTC Regional

I've seen many teams that can consistantly control ONE goal while scoring 20-30 balls in it. If two of those work together, 35 balls in ONE goal beats any goal-bot alliance.

...just calling it like i see it.

Steve Prairie
RAGE 173

Yes, but we have proven we can pull any ball handler around, so yes, you can have your 35 points in balls, but we can easily drag the goal full of balls, with the ball handler robot attatched to it, into our goal zone.

just 2 more cents

soap108 06-04-2002 13:23

utc elim's
 
What was the score of match QF1M1? Who played in it?

Red (157+230) scored ___________

Blue (? + ?) scored ______________

Thanks
KA-108

soap108 06-04-2002 13:29

Re: Re: Prediction:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Marc P.


Yes, but we have proven we can pull any ball handler around, so yes, you can have your 35 points in balls, but we can easily drag the goal full of balls, with the ball handler robot attatched to it, into our goal zone.

just 2 more cents


Can Alliance of 121 be stopped? Looks like 121 can steal a goal at will. Looks like a job for 108 or 71 ;)

not to mention they do 20 balls in 12 seconds. Wow they justed scored 70-10. Is that the first 70ptr of the tourny? Probably won't be the last.....


KA-108

Manoel 06-04-2002 13:44

Re: Re: Re: Prediction:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soap108

Wow they justed scored 70-10. Is that the first 70ptr of the tourny? Probably won't be the last.....

KA-108

No, we lost a match 71-0 at Seattle. Pretty odd strategy, considering it was the qualifying rounds... :confused:

soap108 06-04-2002 13:48

Re: Prediction:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Prairie

Last Minute Prediction:

Balls will win the UTC Regional

I've seen many teams that can consistantly control ONE goal while scoring 20-30 balls in it. If two of those work together, 35 balls in ONE goal beats any goal-bot alliance.

...just calling it like i see it.

Steve Prairie
RAGE 173

Didn't take long for you guys to wise up after that 52-10 mistake in qf3m1.

173 & co. vs. 121 & co. in the Finals???? Maybe.

KA-108

soap108 06-04-2002 14:17

Re: Re: Prediction:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soap108

173 & co. vs. 121 & co. in the Finals???? Maybe.


1/2 right so far 121 & Co. moves on.

Your turn 173.

KA-108

srawls 06-04-2002 14:27

Wow! 121 sure handled those balls well. After one dump I was impressed, after that second dump I was amazed. The finals will certainly be interesting with 1 goal + balls maybe becoming more important than 2 goals.

Stephen

soap108 06-04-2002 14:39

Re: Re: Re: Prediction:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soap108



1/2 right so far 121 & Co. moves on.

Your turn 173.

KA-108

100% right.

now i'm saying 173+88 should pull this off.
thye've got to much field experience these last couple of matches.

Best Wishes to both...let's make it go to fm3!!!

173 should play 195 in m1 and m3. They win.

We'll see.

KA-108

soap108 06-04-2002 14:49

UTC FM1
 
UTC Elims - FM1

121&103 {37:1:1:17} L
173&195 {38:0,2,18} W


KA-108

soap108 06-04-2002 14:56

It's going to 3!!!

UTC Elims - FM2

121&69 {57:2,1,27} W
173&88 {34:0,2,14} L

Exciting isn't it?

KA-108 :cool:


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