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soap108 06-04-2002 15:05

UTC Winners
 
Oh, well. 121 takes it all. Great job 69. Your alliance secured two goals before they did and you win. Plus great defense.
You deserve it.


UTC Elims - FM3

121&69 {46:0:2:26} W
173&195 {0:0,0,0} L

That was fun. Maybe put everyone from UTC they're own division at EPCOT? ;)

And now for the awards www.soap108.com/2002/events/ct/awards.cfm

KA-108 :cool:

Jeff Rodriguez 06-04-2002 19:59

thanks for the play by play but the real thing was more exiting

Rick 07-04-2002 13:42

108 knows what they are talking about. They saw how well we performed and complimented us rightfully. Thanks for not jumping on the 173 bandwagon (no offense to the bandwagon riders:p hehe)

Joel J 07-04-2002 15:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Ricksta121
108 knows what they are talking about. They saw how well we performed and complimented us rightfully. Thanks for not jumping on the 173 bandwagon (no offense to the bandwagon riders:p hehe)
First of all congrats to you guys for taking it home, but we lost that last match for a few reasons. We started off by missing our first shot at the line of balls, then we didn't cool down and concentrate on latching onto the goal, allowing team 69 the chance to put forth an amazing defense...and our biggest mistake: we went for speed and maneuverability (2 skyway wheels, 2 polycarb. wheels) instead of the power that we didn't think we would have needed (4 skyway wheels). All in all we are neither dissapointed, nor angry; after all, this has been our best year so far. I wish to personally thank 69 for the award they gave us, it is the only thing that cheered Ikhan (driver in the elims) up after that last match. A special salute goes out to team 157, who became unstoppable after we shared our little secret with them at SBPLI..we told you guys you should've picked us..:) j/k.

Joel J 07-04-2002 16:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Norton
It looks like team 157 is kicking everybodys butt. it doen't matter how fast you get the balls it is how the game is play that is given the most points and team 157 has the game plan for the seeding rounds.


Vocational school all the way!!!!!!

Yea, you're right. We were 2 seconds short of beating them and in the process getting a new high score (159), but oh well..we did good.

SharkBite 07-04-2002 19:28

I just want to post this pat on the back to the operators of our alliance (69,103,121)....... the driving in the elims by you was unbelievable..... theres a certain point where everyone has such great robots that it all comes down to the driving, and you guys really proved yourselves

Jason Haaga 07-04-2002 19:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Ricksta121
108 knows what they are talking about. They saw how well we performed and complimented us rightfully. Thanks for not jumping on the 173 bandwagon (no offense to the bandwagon riders:p hehe)
Actually, no offense 121 and 103, but I give credit to HYPER for your wins in the finals. They just kept getting in the way and were too fast for us to get around. If you'd like to prove your point, after season's end we can arrange a little get together to give you a lil one on one taste of what you'd get from us ;) :D . Major kudos to you guys though, was well played.

Anyways, actually kind of glad we lost a little. Dispelled that really creepy "RAGE is invincible" myth that was going around that was just a little hard to live up to. We learned a couple valuable lessons and already have a few mods planned for Nats. The best part of competition is that even when you lose, you learn how to win.

Back to the practice facility...

Rick 07-04-2002 20:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Haaga


Actually, no offense 121 and 103, but I give credit to HYPER for your wins in the finals.

well maybe you guys lost because you dont have the talent in the drivers department like we did. or maybe its because 88 and 195 had no power and if you did as much scouting as we did you would know they werent that good. they were at the bottom of our list. maybe you guys lost because its so easy to prevent you from dumping balls. maybe you lost because you were fast but not powerful enough to stop the 121 powerhouse. maybe you lost because we dragged you around without mercy. maybe you lost because your strategy wasn't that great. maybe you were over confident in winning. and why would you be glad you lost. notice how only the losers say that. want to know the truth read this post again without reading the maybe's. next time you post think it out first ok. 121 will be a force to be reckoned with in nationals. we plan on picking another great alliance and plowing through the competition as we did in UTC.

SharkBite 07-04-2002 21:01

I'm sorry you are so bitter 173, I would expect you to be proud of how far you got instead

And I'm not sure why you would go so far to give full credit to one team in the alliance just for thier defensive playing (we love you for that 69, your driving was incredible)

Especially since 121 participated in every single match in the eliminations....... if we were that bad wouldn't we have lost when 69 was switched out for the other alliance partner?

by the way sorry if we sound a little upset, but what else can you expect after posting what you did...... and we accept your challenge

Joel J 07-04-2002 21:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Ricksta121


well maybe you guys lost because you dont have the talent in the drivers department like we did. or maybe its because 88 and 195 had no power and if you did as much scouting as we did you would know they werent that good. they were at the bottom of our list. maybe you guys lost because its so easy to prevent you from dumping balls. maybe you lost because you were fast but not powerful enough to stop the 121 powerhouse. maybe you lost because we dragged you around without mercy. maybe you lost because your strategy wasn't that great. maybe you were over confident in winning. and why would you be glad you lost. notice how only the losers say that. want to know the truth read this post again without reading the maybe's. next time you post think it out first ok. 121 will be a force to be reckoned with in nationals. we plan on picking another great alliance and plowing through the competition as we did in UTC.

LOL.
Quote:

I'm sorry you are so bitter 173, I would expect you to be proud of how far you got instead
And I'm not sure why you would go so far to give full credit to one team in the alliance just for thier defensive playing (we love you for that 69, your driving was incredible)
Especially since 121 participated in every single match in the eliminations....... if we were that bad wouldn't we have lost when 69 was switched out for the other alliance partner?
by the way sorry if we sound a little upset, but what else can you expect after posting what you did...... and we accept your challenge
You both should take a quick look at my post.

Jeez..

SharkBite 07-04-2002 21:23

i did and judged it as a lash out

Brian Savitt 07-04-2002 21:34

Wow, now everyone breath in......now breath out......Calm down whats done is done. Congrats to everyone who competed at UTC it was a great regional.


Brian

Jason Haaga 07-04-2002 22:09

Quote:

Originally posted by SharkBite
I'm sorry you are so bitter 173, I would expect you to be proud of how far you got instead

And I'm not sure why you would go so far to give full credit to one team in the alliance just for thier defensive playing (we love you for that 69, your driving was incredible)

Especially since 121 participated in every single match in the eliminations....... if we were that bad wouldn't we have lost when 69 was switched out for the other alliance partner?

by the way sorry if we sound a little upset, but what else can you expect after posting what you did...... and we accept your challenge

First, you did lose when 69 wasn't in. And in response to your comments about a lash out, what do you think your team mate's posts look like? To be frank, even his original post was offensive and the second is just uncalled for. The reason I give HYPER credit is because whatever you may think about your robot, ours and 195's combined force would've tugged you across the field if we had had a chance to get into postition to do so, thus I give major credit to 69's driving. Notice how I did not say you did not have a good robot; I merely said HYPER did the lion's share in those final matches.

And why I'm glad we did lose some:
1) We know what quick modifications to make to the bot.
2) We know a strategy that'll be used against us in the future and now have plenty of time to work out every way around it.
3) Teams won't be as much out for blood against us as they were at UTC.
4) It boggles dumb people's minds when a loser is okay with it.

And by the way, a wink usually symbolizes sarcasm or joking around, merely poking fun as opposed to being bitter. I apologize if it appeared that way (as it must not have greatly, seeing as how I received a few messages saying no offense taken by members of those teams). Glad you accept, should be fun. There is one condition: Ricksta should take his medication before attending.

Todd Derbyshire 07-04-2002 22:40

Responses to EVERYONE
 
First of I would like to thank RAGE for picking us in our alliances and hopefully look forward working with you again.

Second to Ricksta who are you and do you have any concept of the game. Wait your on 121 so you would remember what we did with you in the Q rounds so lets get of your high horse and not play the game of denial. Seriously, your not the best team in New England and your lucky that you made it to the Elim's.

Third the theory of 121 being evincible and going against Beatty(insert scoff here) not going to happen. This is the way 121 operates and how you BEAT them I know since we did in the Q rounds and I came up with this strategy. 121 sends their partner out to send a goal into the goal zone and then tells there partner to mess with the opposing alliance partner who controls the goals. Ok so I said to our alliance partner(sorry guys I forgot) you go get the guys we will play with 121. So we played with 121 and prevented them from scoring 10 plus balls. Oh yeah they didn't win the pulling contest with us either so you might want to check the whole power issue because in my book the top three respectively at UTC in the power department were 157, 88, and 173.

Fourth don't think 121 won the regional because they dominated it was because in the second match we 173 and 88 messed up the strategy. when we told 173 we were going after 121 they said no we will meet you with a load of balls in the endzone. That gave Hyper the opportunity needed to disrupt and the speed they had a trained chimp could have blocked. Oh yeah simple to point out if we (88) released the goal and went after 121 we would be wearing gold and not silver around our necks.

For all the teams at the Regional besides 121 I would like to greatly thankful for your competition and hopeful see you either in Florida or one of the off-season comps.

Team 121- I admired you guys in the comp but when you come on CD and bash some one is when I lost my respect for you. Lastly stating a point that we had no power and 195 have no power blows my mind that you are either a) arrogant or b) in denial. Remember the Q match we had and remember my warning because the next time we meet its not going to be pretty and you better bring all that supposed power because I must have missed it in the qualification match we had.

sorry this isn't a rant but when people bash my team I feel that the truth needs to be said

Pat Bogard 07-04-2002 22:57

ok guys...
 
I've been reading this thread for the last few hours and have watched this thread develop. I think whats been said is enough..whats happening is team bashing and soon someone is gonna regret what they said. They finals were a great match between 2 strong alliances, it just happened one came out on top and the other didn't. Both sides can sit here all night and bash eachother but is that really what this is about...no its not. So before anything worse is said lets just stop and leave it on the field. Gracious professionalism isnt just for the field, its for here to, and right now in this thread there is none. Both sides played their hearts out and what is happening here is tainting the experience that was shared by 60+ teams this weekend

Pat
Operator and President
Team 103 Cybersonics


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