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Billfred 14-10-2004 23:19

FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 

Arefin Bari 14-10-2004 23:28

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
looks cool... do you have any closeup picture of the drivetrain or just the drivetrain itself... if i could just see the drive train itself, i would probably gain some more knowledge about it... thanks... :)

Billfred 15-10-2004 00:12

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
I'll try to get some better shots with a decent camera next week.

Hopefully I can catch them before we start disassembling Bob.

Projectchon 23-01-2005 13:13

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
how do you match a window motor to the drivetrain?

sanddrag 23-01-2005 13:39

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
Sorry to contribute to reviving old threads but I haven't seen this before. It is quite interesting. The good thing about it is that I bet it is very controllable and can run all day on a single battery charge.

Billfred 03-02-2005 16:40

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
Alright, I'll revive it once more.

I FINALLY got some clear, nice pictures of the robot with a real camera.

Enjoy:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...gle&picid=9531
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...gle&picid=9532
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pi...gle&picid=9533

Cheers!

Billfred 03-02-2005 18:17

pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
Thread created automatically to discuss this image in the Picture Gallery.


russell 03-02-2005 18:22

Re: pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
That is awesome (and crazy!)! When I first read about this I figured you were full of it, but now that I see it I gotta say I am really impressed :ahh: . What is the reduction with those sprockets, and how fast can you go?

Billfred 03-02-2005 20:08

Re: pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
Reduction? I dunno. (marks down on to-do list)

As for speed, we're talking slightly faster than walking. There's video at

http://www.wuscchallenge.com/windowmotor_hi.wmv

But there's already a discussion at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...r+driv etrain, so I figure it might be the spot to go to.

Steve P 03-02-2005 21:22

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
You will be pushed around on the field and will have almost no toruqe, not to rag on you but last year I made a claw with the window motors and I could stop it with my hand.

Ryan Dognaux 03-02-2005 22:32

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
My only question is why go with window motors when there are much stronger motors available? Is it just to be different...? You hit the nail on the head if that's the case :]

russell 03-02-2005 22:37

Re: pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
Oh yeahn, I wrote down somewhere to watch that movie. I think you posted it while I was incredibly close to going over my bandwidth limit. Now I will stop talking about it and go watch it.
Thanks!

MasonMM 03-02-2005 22:47

Re: pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
wow, window motors for the drive train, that's pretty uncommon... what inspried you to go about that?

russell 03-02-2005 22:50

Re: pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred
A bit of a story with the drivetrain...we started off with the CIM motors, but they proved too torquey for our mounting method. So we switched to drill motors...which subsequently fell apart. Often.

So then, with a week or two left, we went with window motors. They work fine, just slow.

Thats from that thread Billfred linked to above.

Tristan Lall 03-02-2005 22:51

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve P
You will be pushed around on the field and will have almost no toruqe, not to rag on you but last year I made a claw with the window motors and I could stop it with my hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux
My only question is why go with window motors when there are much stronger motors available? Is it just to be different...? You hit the nail on the head if that's the case :]

Fortunately, this appears to have been last year. Besides, 2 Nippon-Denso motors would be illegal this year.

Billfred 03-02-2005 22:58

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve P
You will be pushed around on the field and will have almost no toruqe, not to rag on you but last year I made a claw with the window motors and I could stop it with my hand.

Believe me, we weren't pushed around on the field. And don't forget that a good driver will win over a good robot any day of the week. (This was the case in at least one match of ours.) And Bob had a few distinct advantages, namely that of low current draw (we only had the two window motors and a van door being operated) and being built like a brick. I still say it's a good robot. With a proper arm, it'd be a great robot.

As for why, Ryan, call it rookie desperation. It was week four or five or something like that, and we needed some motors we could mount up and go with. (Like in the original post, we tried the others with only limited success.) Maybe we should've made a bigger to-do at Palmetto, but ah well. It sure was a blast.

Billfred 03-02-2005 23:00

Re: pic: Team 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain 2
 
The answers (and the discussion) are all here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=30761

Erm, moderators...could y'all lock this thread, please?

MasonMM 03-02-2005 23:21

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
So using just 2 motors and not much else for your driver train, what's your base weight looking like?

Billfred 03-02-2005 23:33

Re: FINALLY! 1293's Window Motor Drivetrain
 
Well, there were two more levels above it. There's pictures somewhere on www.d5robotics.com if you're interested. (And just a hint of information on Ockham and Hockham, our robot and practice robot for this year.)

Nevertheless, we made weight. No swiss cheese required.


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