Scouting via Handhelds
 

Hey everyone, it's that time of the year again. I've been searching through threads and team websites and have yet to find what I am looking for. Has anyone seen or created a scouting program for palm pilots. Usually WASH does but i think that fell through last year. I'm trying to get a feel for what other teams think are important and then I want to make my own. All help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot and good luck!

Also, use this thread to discuss making scouting programs. I think this would really help everyone out.

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That would be sweet. I've never written anything for a palm before. I'm sure someone has though. Perhaps somebody will step forward and show us what they've got.

I think there was also an earlier discussion where people could use their i-pods for the same purpose.

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Maybe you could try to contact some of the people in these threads.

Scouting using Handhelds

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Well, that's actually what i was trying to do. I know that last year there was a program WASH put out but i haven't' been able to get in contact with anyone. If there is anyone from WASH or Soap that can get there hands on this please post or e-mail me. I'm sure there would be a lot of teams that would use it.

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We're hopefully using WASH again this year, but I'm not sure if we're sharing the scouting load with other teams as we did in the past, or if we're making the programs available for other teams to use. It all depends on how quickly we can get the new software developed. PM me with your email address and I'll pass it on to the scouting team leader.

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Is there anything available for Windows Mobile 2003?

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Well last year we made the program with i think access, so the program was universal. It worked for palm and a windows app.

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Be careful and read the competition rules BEFORE using handhelds at a competition for scouting. You could probably do it as long as you don't try to send anything between the stands and the pits by airwaves. However, cell phone use-and most likely handheld use- is usually frowned upon at the events. And walkie talkies--don't try it.
My point is that you need to be careful when using these devices.

--Eric

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I wouldn't think of it with all FIRST'S restrictions. The best way to do it is to sync the handhelds with a computer. At least that's what we've always done.

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I hear that someone might be up to some handheld work for competition. I'd bring mine just in case if you want to be able to use the resource.

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Come on Silence you're killing me! I knew that someone from 108 would know. Is it possible to get this before the first set of regionals? Thanks.

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Well... define the F.I.R.S.T. set of regionals. UCF?

Ill cut to the chase... yes, S.O.A.P. is working hard towards making Wireless Access to the S.O.A.P. database. However it's not up and running as of yet, and I cannot promise that it will be up by UCF. I don't remember if UCF is the first regional to take place, however I promise to have an update about two weeks before it.

EDIT: While looking at your name I realize that you wont be at any of the regionals that S.O.A.P. 108 normally attends. I haven't decided on how we're going to cover those regionals yet, but as I said, two weeks before Orlando I will give an update.

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yeah flash can publish in the handheld form... but I also haven't tried it, but I've thought about it.

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Hey guys, this is the CA leader for the Chiefs:

I was just wondering if anyone can or has come up with something in Visual Studio. I came up with a Excel sheet that dose calculations of averages on different aspects of the game on each team, but I am really trying to come up with something in Visual Studio (just i have never programed before). Something kind of like the program that someone from team 188 came up with for last years game. I will post what I have come up with in the white papers when I get a chance (hopefully by ship date) so if you guys want to use it you can. It is something that I know works on like a Dell handheld.

Everyone have a great season.

Marjory
"Frosty"

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Just wanted to let you know that team 312 Heatwave has a strategy app for pocket pc and desktop (regular windows). It will be available to download after 5pm 3/2/05. Check our thread or emil me with any questions.

our app will be available for download @5pm 3/2/05 http://heatwave.cat.pinellas.k12.fl.us/

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Orlando? don't you mean Atlanta?

I would like to see some of the info you guys usually collect each year, but I guess its all dependant if you get it working.

-Mike

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Last year one of our mentors made a pretty sweet scouting program in excel and we are currently in the process of making another for this year. It should be done tonight. I should be able to post some of the things he put in it tomorrow. I'll let you know.

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Since we got so short on time we had to succumb to pen and paper...it won't look so impressive but as long as it works i guess it'll be all right.

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Sorry it took mo so long to put what I have come up with but there it is. It should be located in the white papers under scouting with some instructions on how to use it.

Good luck to everyone :yikes: .

Marjory
"Frosty"

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I believe Orlando still has a regional. Silence may also mean Peachtree regional. Can we get clarification?

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Team 296 (I think?) at our UTC New England Regional used a tablet PC. They already had a wifi net set up for sundial (nice job, 296, just get the bugs out and you're ready to go!), so it looked like they were using their web server and a mysql database to retrieve scouting information via WiFi from IE and store it in the DB.

The web-based method is pretty neat, since you can then go around with any WiFi laptop (or even a WiFi PDA like my Zaurus ;)) and scout like that.

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I think im going to be scouting with a TPC at Buckeye in 2 weeks. Hopefully i can get some of the software other people are using to do this, but if i need to, i guess i could code my own solution quick enough. BUT That means i have to come up with a paper solution and a digital solution incase something fails or i dont make it work right! :D
An 802.11B Wireless network is AOK Right? Also, do you guys use any AIM like or IRC Software for communications when you setup a wireless scouting network? Im thinking of setting up an IRC or Jabber server so our pits and 2 wireless scouters can stay in contact

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Huge props go out to you. Pen and paper is definately the way to go. Thats how 503 does it, and its worked for several years

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If anyone would like to use a web-based scouting system, feel free to use the DSD Online Database. As of now, I have updated it to include 933 teams (although only truly extensive team information can be given by the team itself, so many of the teams only have a few essential fields filled in--however, the potential capabilities are numerous). I've only been working on it for about three weeks, and I'm avidly working on it even now. I will soon add a variety of features once I conjure up enough programming time to finish it all. :D I will be using this for scouting purposes at the SBPLI Long Island regional. However, it isn't exactly a site that displays in a PDA-friendly fashion...

I still think it's useful though. Of course, my opinion just might be biased. ;)