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stealth13777 01-08-2005 09:34

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I have to aks where you got the connectors coming out of that box. We have been looking for connectors like that for two years now with no luck.

richardp 01-08-2005 11:51

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The connectors are Anderson Power Poles . Getting the crimps for them on the larger wire (10 AWG) was a bit tricky but still not difficult. Now I notice they have different sizes. :rolleyes: For the PWM wires going to the RC we used Moex Connectors , the crimper for those I think was a little pricey but they worked great for those.

mechanicalbrain 01-08-2005 12:10

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the origional pic placed on this site is old its been hear forever. we too are doing one of these ive been planning out the connections. one thing to help all you people. we long ago realsider your power board and control board are the exact same sive down to the mounting holes. we did ours back to back. also can you have the main power switch inside a box like that?

richardp 01-08-2005 12:51

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The 120 AMP breaker sits on top of a piece of polycarb that was bent ( if you look carefully you can see the platform that it is mounted on). It is mountaed to the top of that, also there is a small hole just big enough for the breaker cut in the top piece. When it is closed up the switch is just above the polycarb and the hole is big enough for someone to push the reset back in. This allows the breaker itself to be inside but

mechanicalbrain 01-08-2005 13:25

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okay but that doesn't answer my question. ill assume the answer is no.

dlavery 01-08-2005 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicalbrain
the origional pic placed on this site is old its been hear forever. we too are doing one of these ive been planning out the connections. one thing to help all you people. we long ago realsider your power board and control board are the exact same sive down to the mounting holes. we did ours back to back. also can you have the main power switch inside a box like that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicalbrain
okay but that doesn't answer my question. ill assume the answer is no.

What, exactly, is your question? (note: spelling, punctuation and good grammar are your friends - use them and enjoy the benefits of legible, understandable prose; your original message is unclear, and it is difficult to determine which part is "question" and which part is "run-on sentence"). If you were asking if having the main breaker completely enclosed within a control box is permissible, then for the 2005 competition the answer would have been "no" (see Rule <R48> and Rule <R58>). If you were asking if the particular method of mounting the main breaker within the Team 116 control box is legal, then for the 2005 competition the answer would be "yes." As Richie noted, in this implementation the main breaker is mounted on a short stand and protrudes through a hole in the top of the box, so it is not completely enclosed. This permits ready access to the breaker switch for inspection and testing, and brings it in compliance with all 2005 rules*. Based on the empirical evidence (e.g. successfully passing through inspections during the 2005 FRC competition season), the FRC inspectors and judges alike have determined that this was permitted and within the rules.

-dave

*note: all comments pertain to the 2005 FRC rules. Any or all of these rules may be different in future, and such solutions may or may not be allowed.

mechanicalbrain 01-08-2005 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicalbrain
also can you have the main power switch inside a box like that?

I know its not exactly clear but I was referring to mounting it without a hole in the top of the box but I found the answer.

BlackShadowFox 20-10-2007 16:25

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So How much does this board weigh? what is inside the mysterious box? and what is the size?

I like the idea and would like to design something that could also be pulled out in a flash.

Lil' Lavery 20-10-2007 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackShadowFox (Post 647038)
So How much does this board weigh? what is inside the mysterious box? and what is the size?

I like the idea and would like to design something that could also be pulled out in a flash.

Each box has weighed about 15 lb.s during the three competition season 116 used them. Each box has contained the appropriate electrical components to control that year's robot, so they varied in weight somewhat from year-to-year depending on the amount of victors/spikes/etc required.
The same can be said for the size. The box pictured in this thread was the largest of the three, and I'd link pictures of the 2007 version, but the team 116 website seems to be down. They're typically around 18" long, and <12" wide and <12" tall.
Inside the boxes are the RC, Victors, Spike relays, break panels, main breaker, gyro, accelerometer, and power distribution blocks. There's also a fan to cool the entire system.

BlackShadowFox 20-10-2007 18:21

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I know the obvious things, its the amount of each components that i would like to know.

Chief Pride 20-10-2007 20:08

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incredible design... looks cool too :)

Lil' Lavery 20-10-2007 23:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackShadowFox (Post 647051)
I know the obvious things, its the amount of each components that i would like to know.

That varied by year. Pictured in this thread is the 2005 version, which included 7 victors, 3 spike relays, 3 mollusk connector (for pwms), and the essentials (RC, Main breaker, breaker panel), as well as a large muffin fan for cooling.
Since the 116 website down, there are no pictures I can find of the final version, so I have some pictures of an earlier version (wires not cleaned up etc.). The 2007 version had 6 victors, 6 spikes, power distribution block, RC, main breaker, breaker panel, LCD panel (not pictured), DB25 connection (for pwms, not pictured), back-up battery, and a large muffin fan.
Unfinished 2007 pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/P2140494.jpg


BlackShadowFox 21-10-2007 11:15

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Thanks For the information and images


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