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Team977 20-02-2005 01:58

Will the goals move
 
Do any of you all know how easily the goals will move. I am kind of worried that after placing a tetra on the goal, the goal might easily move, or if we run into the goal that it might move. Will they be bolted down

thoughtful 20-02-2005 02:03

Re: Will the goals move
 
They will be welcroed (if thts how its spelled) to the carpet. And beleive in the power of welcrow! Its plenty strong

steven114 20-02-2005 02:28

Re: Will the goals move
 
Velcro?

TheMuffinMan 20-02-2005 02:50

Re: Will the goals move
 
At the skrimage I just went to, they were securely down with velcro and didn't move, and quite a few robots (including ours) hit them rather hard. I wouldn't worry about them moving too much

thoughtful 20-02-2005 03:02

Re: Will the goals move
 
Velcro! Thats it, *feels dumb* its just that i never saw it written down so far in my life, will try to remember now

TheMuffinMan 20-02-2005 03:03

Re: Will the goals move
 
welcroed = welded + velcro? maybe you've got something going there haha

Ryan Foley 20-02-2005 03:29

Re: Will the goals move
 
However, at the UTC scrimmage, a robot was placing a tetra on the center goal when it's gripper became tangled between the tetra it just put on and the tetra below it, when they tried to back away I saw the center goal's base lift a little. They can take a hit, but they arent impossible to dislodge.

NMR 20-02-2005 04:21

Re: Will the goals move
 
one of the team updates, if i am not mistaken, involved putting a plate onto the ground of the center goal which (as i understand it) is completely velcroed to the ground. When i was watching the scrimmage broadcast, I couldnt really see if they built their field like that, and even then, it barely moved.

-NMR

Kris Verdeyen 20-02-2005 05:16

Re: Will the goals move
 
A practice solution we've discovered - if you cut small holes in the carpet and slide a zip tie through and around each leg of a goal, it does a decent job of holding it in place. Of course, this is not a good solution for those using permanent carpet.

Billfred 20-02-2005 12:54

Re: Will the goals move
 
Yep, they're velcroed down.

And it takes me (a relatively full-grown guy) a rather serious grunt to tip it on the side. A robot could do it, but a driver with the proverbial two brain cells will probably not be able to do it.

IMDWalrus 20-02-2005 12:58

Re: Will the goals move
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Verdeyen
A practice solution we've discovered - if you cut small holes in the carpet and slide a zip tie through and around each leg of a goal, it does a decent job of holding it in place. Of course, this is not a good solution for those using permanent carpet.

Why do that? If the goals aren't going to be secured that way in competition, what's the point of doing that for your practice field?

Isn't it better to let the drivers deal with exaggerated goal movement to teach them not to hit the goals at all in competition?

Katie Reynolds 21-02-2005 18:29

Re: Will the goals move
 
Thought this might be of some iterest to those who were easily able to move the goals ...

<G20> ROBOTS may push or react against any elements of the field, provided there is no damage or disruption of the field elements. ROBOTS may not grab, grasp, grapple or attach to the GOALS or any other field structure. Robots may not extend under, lift up or tip over a GOAL. If a ROBOT violates this rule, the referee will give one warning. If the referee determines that the team is disregarding the warning, or the actions affect the outcome of the match, the team’s ROBOT will be disabled for the remainder of the match. If a GOAL is tipped over, it is automatically OWNED by the opposing alliance for the remainder of the match.

psych0gambit 21-02-2005 21:29

Re: Will the goals move
 
so it is possible to move the goals but ur not supposed to eh. the goals shouldnt move when you put the tetras on it because they are fastened down, only if u use your robot to push it accidentally or something it might move... :confused:

Elgin Clock 21-02-2005 22:29

Re: Will the goals move
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NMR
one of the team updates, if i am not mistaken, involved putting a plate onto the ground of the center goal which (as i understand it) is completely velcroed to the ground.

Center goal has a piece of plate on the whole bottom of the base, as seen in this picture.

http://www.team237.com/gallery/UTC-S..._Medium?full=1

Side Tetra Goals, and those nearest to the players stations, have only velcro on the legs.

Tigerlily-87 22-02-2005 19:23

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Quote:

welcroed = welded + velcro? maybe you've got something going there haha
Sorry man, someone beat you to it. ;)

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4986


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