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Dave Flowerday 23-02-2005 10:36

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thoughtful
imagine us driving right into you guys, over and over again in autonomous, no capping for you :p .

Imagine you getting disqualified:
Quote:

Q: If a team moves to the opposite end of the field in autonomous mode and starts "zooming" back and forth across the field, obviously to disrupt opposing robot's autonomous mode, can they be DQ'd for high speed ramming per <G25>?
A: <G25> applies in all modes. If your robot is traveling at high speed during autonomous mode and rams another robot, it is very possible that you would be disqualified, although the decision will depend on the particular situation and is at the discretion of the head referee.

nehalita 23-02-2005 10:49

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
wow, i feel better after reading this thread, too. we tried the camera thing but it didn't work out...seeing as we only have one programmer and she only knew JAVA, we discarded the camera and worked with what we had.

only problem is this programmer has not seen the auto code actually WORK, the one day it was tested was the day she had a tennis game.... so we'll see on thursday won't we? x.x' anticipation....

CyberWolf_22 23-02-2005 10:59

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Our Auton is pretty much untested because I did not get our robot until Monday at about 5:30 then the mechanical team took it back again at about 6:30. This is not much different then any other year so hopefully it will all come together during the practice day. I know we will be able to knock off the hanging tetra and move to get in front of another robot. I am hopping we will be able to take a tetra from the automated loading station as well.

Chriszuma 23-02-2005 14:07

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
I'm kind of the programmer's assistant. That is, I don't really do much with the code besides working out the occasional algorithm. Programming our autonomous was a wee bit impossible since we didn't get a finished robot until a few hours before we put 'er in a big box addressed to Ypsilanti.
We should be able to track down the green tetra, which we tested successfully with the kit chassis (before they ripped the motors out for the real bot). Past that, we might be able to pick it up, but we don't really have any code for going to the center goal. I worked out the geometry for position tracking using the hall-effects, but I don't know if Mike ever got around to coding it in (I left about 12 hours before he did because i got some influenza).

slickguy2007 23-02-2005 14:14

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
We can do pretty much anything we want..... 1403 is going for 2 vision tetras during autonomous mode.....


GO 1403!!!

JamesBrown 23-02-2005 14:22

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
we can knock over the hanging tetras and can sit in place hopefully we will also be able to block the center goal before UTC

jazzsaxman1988 23-02-2005 21:06

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Pretty much I'm in the same situation you guys are, but I took some measurements to see how our bot handles, and I'm going to dead-reckon code to cap the center goal, then hopefully at least pick up a vision tetra... the problem I'm having though is that our arm is so slow raising that I only have time to cap once... kinda frustrating, but oh well..

Fourevilmonkies 23-02-2005 21:33

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Mmm I got me team an awesome autonomus mode programed... Sit around and look pretty... Man oh man... I love those magnetic sensors so much I pulled a Lenny on one of em *yes this is a "of Mice and Men" reference*. Qutie posibly I will not be the only one working on the code like I have been for the entire 6 weeks. Maybe we may even make our robot fly... But yes our plan is to sit and look pretty and if you have seen our spoiler pic we are not very pretty at all.

Embok 23-02-2005 22:09

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Our auton is horrible, all we can do is cap middle goal from center position and cap the near middle goal from the side positions. And at pittsburgh I can copy paste it and get us capping near side goals from side positions...

I really dont like how it turned out but everyone else is all like, "its fine, and its only your rookie year" but they are just being polite...

At least I can take some consolation in that this is more then most ppl can do lol :p

Brandon Holley 23-02-2005 22:15

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Our robot can find the tetra and pick it up. As far as capping it onto a goal, that is what Thursday is all about. We also are making a simple program to knock off the hanging tetra and possibly move to a loading station. I hope that teams can succeed in their auto mode programming. It could cause a big swing in the game.


P.S. - My 100th post ^___^

Damian Manda 24-02-2005 01:27

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
We have lots of code written for each side starting and center and side goal placement. However, we found that it takes our robot about 9 seconds to lift a tetra to placement height (leaving only 6 seconds to find and aquire and later drop the tetra), so when it came time to test, we only wrote routines to knock the hanging tetra and drive forward, no other placement.

thoughtful 24-02-2005 01:42

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday
Imagine you getting disqualified:

I never said at high speeds :p , Mostly it does a U at a pretty slow speed. Not too slow though. However, i am sure there will be teams that can correct the pushing/bumps through encoders and gyro. We can our selves account for bumps.

I meant that post as a joke. We would never want to bump into anyone at a high speed, autonomous or no autonomous. Its just not GP. We are rarely going to use that autonomous mode, probably in the play-offs when the allaince has 3 working autonmous modes.

I have a question though, would you guys rather wait till the end (of the autonomus) to drop the tetra or at the earliest moment possible to avoid any bumps. I was thinking that i would want to drop at the last possible second so that we come out owning the goal out of autonomous.

NotQuiteFree 24-02-2005 02:35

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
We can knock down the hanging tetra 99.999% of the time, and then we go and find a tetra on the field somewhere. Unfortunately, our arm/robot isn't fast enough to pick it up and set it on a goal, even if that is the first thing we do. It just takes longer than the time we have. :( Oh well, pick your battles. :p

Kris Verdeyen 24-02-2005 09:14

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thoughtful
... We would never want to bump into anyone at a high speed, autonomous or no autonomous. Its just not GP....

It has nothing to do with GP or non-GP, it's just against the rules. It's no more graciously professional to avoid running into someone than it is to build a robot that starts within 28"x38"x60" - it's just the rules. If it were a different game, with different rules (as it has been in years past) then it would be perfectly acceptable to ram into someone at high speeds. It all depends on the context of the game.

That said, and back on topic, our autonomous can (at least) cap a goal with the born tetra and knock down the hanger.

Alan Anderson 24-02-2005 09:53

Re: Follow up: How is your auton?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thoughtful
I have a question though, would you guys rather wait till the end (of the autonomus) to drop the tetra or at the earliest moment possible to avoid any bumps. I was thinking that i would want to drop at the last possible second so that we come out owning the goal out of autonomous.

Consider that the only thing that matters during autonomous is getting the vision tetra stacked. Owning a goal doesn't confer any special bonus at the end of autonomous. I suggest that the best choice is to get there quickly to avoid being interfered with. You can always retake the goal later if you want to.


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