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nuggetsyl 27-02-2005 15:48

how high
 
I remember hearing somewhere that you are only allowed to stack 8 high can someone please dispel this rumor

NoRemorse 27-02-2005 15:56

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I remember hearing it was 12. Anyone know for sure?

EDIT: I'd look through the rules, but this computer keeps crashin when it loads a pdf.

Ian Curtis 27-02-2005 16:03

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There is no limit to how high you can stack. I seriously doubt stacks will get that high anyways in 2 minutes.

nuggetsyl 27-02-2005 16:28

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come to the nj reagional i bet you will see stacks 8 or higher

plutonium83 27-02-2005 18:32

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Sure, we'll probably seem them, but it won't be a winning strategy in my opinion.

Peter Matteson 27-02-2005 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
come to the nj reagional i bet you will see stacks 8 or higher

My bet is you won't see more than 4 high in most competition, even though there are designs capable of going higher. Two minutes is a short time with six robots and loading times to go much higher. Stacking high is a losing strategy. Stacking fast and wisely will win.

D.J. Fluck 27-02-2005 20:19

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If I've said it once, Ive said it a thousand times and I'll say it another time.

Anytime someone tries to take up more then 3 tetras at a time, they're going to attract a lot of attention to themselves and waste a lot of time.

I seriously doubt seeing more then 5 on a single goal...seems like a waste of time to me when you have a possibility of 9 goals to stack from....id spread the wealth....there are no bonuses for stacking high, so whats the point?

AmyPrib 27-02-2005 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
I remember hearing somewhere that you are only allowed to stack 8 high can someone please dispel this rumor

The only thing I remember about how high you can stack is that when the game was first announced, someone said FIRST said the highest they could stack without it tipping over (by itself) was around 13+ tetras.
That I'm not sure is completely true.. But no, there is no limit to what you can stack.. Just don't tip over a stack that's too high while trying to cap.. Disasterous...

slickguy2007 27-02-2005 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AmyPrib
The only thing I remember about how high you can stack is that when the game was first announced, someone said FIRST said the highest they could stack without it tipping over (by itself) was around 13+ tetras.
That I'm not sure is completely true.. But no, there is no limit to what you can stack.. Just don't tip over a stack that's too high while trying to cap.. Disasterous...

What would happen if the tetras actually did topple over on their own? I don't think it will ever happen but it might.

GO 1403!!!

Ian Curtis 27-02-2005 22:06

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[opinion mode]
Probably the tetras falling down "on there own" would be an effect of the last team to stack. Hence the last team to stack would most likely get the penalty.
[/opinion mode]

Mike Schroeder 27-02-2005 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
come to the nj reagional i bet you will see stacks 8 or higher

well i would hope that the wonderful teams that come to nj would realize that the KEY to winning this game is not getting 20 high stacks no matter how impressive, but more importantly the key is to get the rows to be your color so you get that nice bonus for doing so.

lately it seems that more and more teams have been forgeting this, just coinsider this a friendly reminder to all the teams out there in CD-land

AmyPrib 27-02-2005 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slickguy2007
What would happen if the tetras actually did topple over on their own? I don't think it will ever happen but it might.

GO 1403!!!

Well, I don't know what happens if the tetras suddenly fall over (by themselves) 40sec after someone caps it. To me, it was stable when he capped it, so he did not "cause" the falling over. But that's me, so I don't know for sure, but it seems this particular case may be unlikely.

But, if a stack were so high, and you accidentally ran into a goal and they toppled, then you would get penalties (like below). I couldn't find the Q/A or rule about that, but I remember seeing it somewhere.

If you try to cap it, and things fall over, then I believe the opponent owns that goal for the remainder of the match, and I believe all the opponents tetras on that goal would be counted (going by G18).

Not to mention the safety issues and possible damage to the tetras if they all fall over... what a sight it would be. Suggest thinking about another goal if a goal is capped more than 11-12 high.

abeD 27-02-2005 23:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AmyPrib
The only thing I remember about how high you can stack is that when the game was first announced, someone said FIRST said the highest they could stack without it tipping over (by itself) was around 13+ tetras.
That I'm not sure is completely true.. But no, there is no limit to what you can stack.. Just don't tip over a stack that's too high while trying to cap.. Disasterous...


Well I have seen this:

Big stack

guess its not completely true.

Lil' Lavery 01-03-2005 14:48

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You can stack as many as you can, but with the exception of irregular circumstances there is typically a wiser choice on a different goal.


And about the Wildstang photo, wow...
just wow

Rombus 01-03-2005 15:46

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This comes down to a simple math:
Let’s say you have 6 great robots. Game limit is 80 tetras. If all tetras are equally spread and stacked above goals, the highest stack you will see is ~9 tetras
In this same example, lets take the 40 tetras each side gets, Evenly distributed each robot gets to touch ~13 tetras, That means EACH Robot on an alliance has to get a tetra in play every ~8 seconds in non-auto mode!:eek: (105 seconds of time)

So what if your alliance robots can cap a tetra every 15 seconds? Well, each robot can get 7 tetras into play, each alliance gets 21 tetras into play. If both alliances are equal, 63 tetras get into play total, giving us an average stack of ~7

What about 20 seconds? ~5 Tetras into play per robot, 15 Tetras into play per alliance, 30 tetras per game, Average Stack is ~3 per goal :ahh:

Sure there is some fundamental problems with my math( What about auto mode? What about teams that don’t score tetras?) But it gives an idea.


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