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Jon K. 04-04-2005 21:56

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by Dancin103
I dont think this can be because there are teams going that are not on this list!hmmmm.......

If you notice there are more then one posting and they have been updated numerous times.

petek 04-04-2005 22:39

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
So, with four divisions there will be eighty-odd teams per division. Which would work out to about six or seven matches per team in qualifying. Not a whole lot, is it? What do you suppose the chances are of FIRST running five divisions? That would get us down to 60-some teams per division. And really mess up a great Newton lineup (16, 25, 56, 88, 103, 233 and the list goes on).

Kevin Sevcik 04-04-2005 22:53

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Five divisions would make for an exceedingly odd Finals bracket, though. There's no really good way to pick which alliances gets byes and which two have to play an extra game.

EDIT: Unless we institute a wildcard system of some sort. Or some sort of BCS system, maybe......

Koko Ed 04-04-2005 22:59

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik
Five divisions would make for an exceedingly odd Finals bracket, though. There's no really good way to pick which alliances gets byes and which two have to play an extra game.

EDIT: Unless we institute a wildcard system of some sort. Or some sort of BCS system, maybe......

BCS! UGH!
Now we got to air out the thread. :rolleyes:

petek 04-04-2005 23:19

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik
Five divisions would make for an exceedingly odd Finals bracket, though. There's no really good way to pick which alliances gets byes and which two have to play an extra game.

EDIT: Unless we institute a wildcard system of some sort. Or some sort of BCS system, maybe......

Yeah, five would be weird - but if there were six divisions and then a three-sided tree to put new meaning in "triple play" ... Nah

Well, at least fewer matches mean fewer hikes back to the pits!

Greg Needel 04-04-2005 23:48

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by petek
Yeah, five would be weird - but if there were six divisions and then a three-sided tree to put new meaning in "triple play" ... Nah

Well, at least fewer matches mean fewer hikes back to the pits!


well we know that FIRST has atleast 5 fields because they were in play every week but from what i heard last year they might have 7, if that is the case more then 4 divisions is possible...

Collmandoman 04-04-2005 23:59

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I think they would have announced this by now if it were so.. it will altleast be better than last year instead of 2v2 for 400 teams.. 3v3 for maybe less.. I see them going to 6 next year =)

dez250 05-04-2005 00:04

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I would expect the 4 playing fields (Archimedes, Curie, Newton Galileo), The main finals field, (Einstein) and 2 practice fields. That would fit the seven fields that would have been in use in weeks 2 and 4.

Greg Needel 05-04-2005 00:37

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by dez250
I would expect the 4 playing fields (Archimedes, Curie, Newton Galileo), The main finals field, (Einstein) and 2 practice fields. That would fit the seven fields that would have been in use in weeks 2 and 4.


in the past the practice field was the nasa field...but this there there is an offical practice with each truck...so i would expect to use those set up in an area by each pit, which still leaves the extra full fields

Dancin103 05-04-2005 08:40

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I am not getting this!!!How can there be divisions if there are teams going that are not even on this list????? Well, i guess we will find out when FIRST actually posts the divisions them selves!!!! :rolleyes:

Kevin Sevcik 05-04-2005 09:08

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Now if FIRST really wanted to get crazy they could use a randomizer to set the divisions but there is too much risk of having too many powerhouses in one division or too many roookies and such. I think the 1,2,3,4 system makes thing easy on them.

Forgot to comment on this. You could do a mix of randomizer/grouping. Take the first 4 teams, randomly assign them to 1, 2, 3, and 4. Move on to the next 4 teams. You still get a mix of rookies and vets, but it's random now. Better yet, take teams in groups of 8 or 12 and assign two or three of each number to the group. That way there's a better chance of teams like 65, 66, 67, or 68 ending up in the same division for once instead of being numerically doomed to be seperated.

Also, 6 divisons still necessitates introducing a system of byes or wildcards. MLB is an obvious example of this.

Dancin103,
Who's not on the list that you're sure is going? It's possible that they couldn't afford to go even though they qualified.

Joe Matt 05-04-2005 09:21

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
From what I have heard, there will be 6 field: 4 division fields, 1 FLL/Finals field, 1 VEX field.

So there will be 4 FIRST fields, don't know about practice fields since last year and this year we were just given a few goals and some tetras, not a full field. Don't know though, so take it for what it's worth, a post in the rumor mill.

Kevin Sevcik 05-04-2005 13:42

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Lil' Lavery 05-04-2005 14:04

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by JosephM
From what I have heard, there will be 6 field: 4 division fields, 1 FLL/Finals field, 1 VEX field.

So there will be 4 FIRST fields, don't know about practice fields since last year and this year we were just given a few goals and some tetras, not a full field. Don't know though, so take it for what it's worth, a post in the rumor mill.

There a 5 fields (1 for each division, and Einstein, the champ field), 1+ practice FRC fields, then there are several FLL fields (at least 2 game, and 2 practice, thats what they have at FLL regional competitions), and 1+ VEX fields (nobody knows yet how many).

@Dancin 103:
those lists were based on the teams that FIRST says has registered. Just because a team won a regional doesnt mean they are actually going (they might choose not to for whatever reason).

mhayon 05-04-2005 15:44

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
So when does FIRST release the actual divisions?

Jay Trzaskos 05-04-2005 15:56

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
April 11th. I believe it was posted earlier in the thread.

Lil' Lavery 05-04-2005 23:02

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Woot, 116th post in this thread! :p

Do you think FIRST would benefit from a "selection commity" (NCAA b-ball type thing) type set up to ensure balanced divisions? It would be highly unlikely and highly unrealistic to do such a thing though (where are enough unbiased people going to come from?). Or even just a system that tries to balance the number of regional winners in each division, ect. Even if it is just a simple thing as just splitting up the winners, do you think it would help?

Koko Ed 05-04-2005 23:06

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Hmmmm! I see in this current version the old FLR winning alliance is in the same division. Could we be getting back together to make another run? I am intrigued.... ;)

Joe Matt 06-04-2005 09:16

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
Woot, 116th post in this thread! :p

Do you think FIRST would benefit from a "selection commity" (NCAA b-ball type thing) type set up to ensure balanced divisions? It would be highly unlikely and highly unrealistic to do such a thing though (where are enough unbiased people going to come from?). Or even just a system that tries to balance the number of regional winners in each division, ect. Even if it is just a simple thing as just splitting up the winners, do you think it would help?

No, it's still biased, and many times teams that win a regional arn't sometimes the best, and sometimes the teams they bring with them arn't the best. Remember, it's an exhibition until you add the variable of luck. :)

Andy Baker 06-04-2005 09:29

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I am sure that many of us are creating our own team lists, only to have them altered when an additional team is signed up during these last few days before the Championships.

Can someone capture which teams have recently signed up, and then tell the rest of us about it? That would be super-swell.

Andy B.

Kevin Sevcik 06-04-2005 09:35

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My recent post is accurate up to team 1546. Team 1547 signed up after that post, and I'm too lazy to recreate the whole list at the moment. The last few lines should be:

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Swampdude 06-04-2005 09:38

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I know 1466 is going to register, and then proceed to clean the house!

Collmandoman 06-04-2005 12:23

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude
I know 1466 is going to register, and then proceed to clean the house!

I don't know about that :ahh: :) But we did just get listed today - Yippeeee
Can't wait to get down there and miss a few more days of school

Heretic121 06-04-2005 12:30

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
anyone know the EXACT date of when the OFFICAL divsions will be released???

thx...

Kevin Sevcik 06-04-2005 12:34

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heretic121
anyone know the EXACT date of when the OFFICAL divsions will be released???

thx...

April 11th is when the offical divisions will be released on usfirst.org

Goobergunch 06-04-2005 15:48

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
This has (kind of) already been said, but the 2005 Championship Public Agenda includes:
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FRC Division
Round Finals
Newton, Archimedes,
Galileo, Curie 1:00-3:00pm
So there will be four Championship Divisions, with the names we all know and love. Unless FIRST is trying to trick everybody, which I severely doubt.

Incidentally, that schedule also suggests that the FVC events will be held on a "DaVinci" Field and that the FLL events will be held on Einstein Field.

Scythe 06-04-2005 20:53

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I just wish it is like it is....223 and 179 is a scary combo...I really don't want to see that again. :D

Dancin103 06-04-2005 20:54

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Yeah, the divison pairing should be interesting no matter what that list from FIRST looks like!!!It will be interesting to see how they actually divide teams up!!!Because if i remember from last year, there were tons of teams in our division that we never went to regionals with, and also in our division there were very few teams that had actually gone to regionals with us that went to Nationals that went into the same divisions as us!!

Kevin Sevicik
Sorry about that, with the whole"there are teams not on this list that are going" thing, i was looking at a different list of teams at the same time! my bad...ooooopppsss...sorry about that!!!!

Swampdude 06-04-2005 21:35

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I was just thinking, those QP's are going to be incredibly important with only 6 seeding matches at Nationals. There's going to be a lot of 6-0 teams. Which means there's likely to be very few "strong" teams in the top eight in each division. Especially when you mix in the penalties issue. If you want a top spot you're going to have to make sure your opponents score well. In fact you may need to score for them!

Therefore lobbying and being "known" actually will come into play if you want to get into the finals. It's actually not a bad idea for some teams maybe to offer detailed scouting lists to the top eight teams. Maybe as a service you could provide the top eight teams with a capping average per team if they don't already have one. This might be annoying to some, but to those who weren't prepared this could save the day and keep the competition tough.

I know at Palmetto there were 2 teams that basically brought the kit chassis and nothing else and late Saturday were in the top 8 due to good alliance pairings. These teams got knocked down a spot on there last match, but had they not they actually could have made it into 4th or 5th seed. They probably weren't prepared with the detailed scouting info many had put together. This is going to probably be the norm at Nationals.

What do you think?

Greg Needel 06-04-2005 21:40

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude
I was just thinking, those QP's are going to be incredibly important with only 6 seeding matches at Nationals. There's going to be a lot of 6-0 teams. Which means there's likely to be very few "strong" teams in the top eight in each division. Especially when you mix in the penalties issue. If you want a top spot you're going to have to make sure your opponents score well. In fact you may need to score for them!

Therefore lobbying and being "known" actually will come into play if you want to get into the finals. It's actually not a bad idea for some teams maybe to offer detailed scouting lists to the top eight teams. Maybe as a service you could provide the top eight teams with a capping average per team if they don't already have one. This might be annoying to some, but to those who weren't prepared this could save the day and keep the competition tough.

I know at Palmetto there were 2 teams that basically brought the kit chassis and nothing else and late Saturday were in the top 8 due to good alliance pairings. These teams got knocked down a spot on there last match, but had they not they actually could have made it into 4th or 5th seed. They probably weren't prepared with the detailed scouting info many had put together. This is going to probably be the norm at Nationals.

What do you think?



who said there are only going to be 6 seeding matches at nationals? i would look at the regionals with 60ish teams and see how many they had...i would expect 8.......if it were only 6 matches i would be extremly disapointed because that makes it almost $1,000 per match :p

Mirza95vx 06-04-2005 21:48

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That would suck Greg to pay 700 per match instead of close to 1000 LOL
dont look at the matches in cash value NEEDEL.

Didnt your mother tell you money isnt everything

JK


I heared it was going to be 9 seeding matches.

Collmandoman 06-04-2005 21:53

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
6 matches would be awful~ I talked to someone up there in FIRST and he said likely 8-10 -- which seems kinda difficult with 90 teams/ division - oh well we'll see on monday =)

Swampdude 06-04-2005 21:54

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I saw it somewhere, can't remember. But it makes sense anyways, there's going to be over 85 teams in each division. There's no way they can fit in 9 matches. Unless they plan on actually using Einstein the whole time like they used to.

Ali Ahmed 06-04-2005 21:57

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I don't think they will use Einstien but they might becuase there will be more teams. I think there will 7 matches, 8 if we are lucky.

Kevin Sevcik 06-04-2005 22:11

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Champs has 620 minutes available for seeding matches, versus 455 available for most regionals. Given 84 teams per division, 9 matches per team gives a cycle time of just under 5 minutes. 8 matches gives a slightly more realistic 5.5 minutes per cycle. 7 matches is probably the sweet spot for a cycle time of 6.3 minutes.

For comparison, Lone Star had a cycle time of 6.8 minutes, and we still ran into lunch on Friday. The fastest cycle time at a (Non-super) week 4 or 5 regional was 5.7 min at SVR. I wasn't there so I can't say if it was too fast, but it seems so to me. Even with veteran ref, scoring, and reset teams at Champs, I think 7 matches is probably the most we're likely to get. Maaaybe 8.

EDIT: Assuming perfect efficiency at switching Einstein from one division to the next, it would theoretically increase match time by 25% to 775 minutes. This gives a cycle time of 6.15 minutes. Since it's likely to be problematic for all sorts of reasons, it's more likely that it'd just solidify the number of matches at 8. This is disregarding whether the scoring software can actually handle running things like this.

nobrakes8 06-04-2005 23:25

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Hmmmm! I see in this current version the old FLR winning alliance is in the same division. Could we be getting back together to make another run? I am intrigued.... ;)

69, 126, and 1071 together too..

That would be five regional championships between the three teams :ahh: :D

I'd like to see FIRST try and actually keep alliances together.. Would be interesting to see what would happen... Also a NCAA style would be awsome..

Take overall winning %, finalist, and champions and rank it according to all the regional standings.. I'm sure somebody here at CD would be bored enough to figure out that system :rolleyes:

Collmandoman 07-04-2005 01:54

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omg a 90 alliance bracket would be soo amazing
a real fantasy first would emerge --- north south east and west divisions
seeded by some performance %
so only the top 360 teams go
or the top 360(in sets of 90 are randomally split into divisions)30 teams select for what ever amount of time 2 alliance partners.. of course starting at the bottom
30-1
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1-30 again
so 1 picks twice in a row
and they play all qualifying matches with the same alliance - and the top 8 go on
of course this is stupid

Andy Brockway 07-04-2005 08:19

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Originally Posted by Swampdude
I saw it somewhere, can't remember. But it makes sense anyways, there's going to be over 85 teams in each division. There's no way they can fit in 9 matches. Unless they plan on actually using Einstein the whole time like they used to.

Last year there were 84 teams playing 2 vs. 2. We played 7 matches. With the 3 vs 3 format we should be able to play 9. I think FIRST listened to the teams gripe about playing so few matches when they increased to the 3 vs 3.

Swampdude 07-04-2005 08:39

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The problem is the match time turn around which is more than last year. But let's say they did fit in 8-9 matches. There's still going to be a lot of undefeated teams just due to the amount of teams in each division. Many of them will have made it due to good alliance pairings. It may be difficult to get super alliances put together. I hope that fancy algorithm works this time and we actually do get to play with/against new teams each match. That would help the problem. At both of our regionals we played with or against a few teams more than once.

jessjank. 07-04-2005 12:56

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Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like 69 has dropped out. If this is not the case, anyone know why 69 is no longer listed? There are a total of 338 teams signed up, so there's a possibility of 2 more still signing up before registration closes.
FIRST Robotics Competition Teams Attending The Championship Event

EDIT: Also just noticed that 1019 is no longer listed... not sure if there are any others as well that dropped.

Karthik 07-04-2005 13:01

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Originally Posted by jessjank.
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like 69 has dropped out. If this is not the case, anyone know why 69 is no longer listed? There are a total of 335 teams signed up, so there's a possibility of 5 more still signing up before registration closes.
FIRST Robotics Competition Teams Attending The Championship Event

Wow, good catch Jess. Team 69 was definitely one of the favourites in my mind. I know they won two regionals last year, but didn't attend the championship. I guess they want to continue that trend.

Heretic121 07-04-2005 13:59

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Originally Posted by jessjank.
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like 69 has dropped out. If this is not the case, anyone know why 69 is no longer listed? There are a total of 335 teams signed up, so there's a possibility of 5 more still signing up before registration closes.
FIRST Robotics Competition Teams Attending The Championship Event

=X i really hope they go...

Kevin Sevcik 07-04-2005 14:21

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Keep in mind that the list that's up there currently is a list of teams that have registered to go to Champs. They haven't necessarily paid yet. If 69 registered and then discovered they couldn't raise funds to attend for whatever reason, I'd commend them for dropping out now while there's still time for another team to get in.

Joe Ross 07-04-2005 15:34

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Originally Posted by jessjank.
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like 69 has dropped out. If this is not the case, anyone know why 69 is no longer listed? There are a total of 336 teams signed up, so there's a possibility of 5 more still signing up before registration closes.

When we talked to them at LA, they were not going to be going to nationals.

Jverdon 07-04-2005 15:34

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Kevin Sevcik 07-04-2005 15:38

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Huzzah! Now everything needs to say exactly this way until next monday so I can stay in the same division with 364....

Alex Cormier 07-04-2005 15:41

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
wow, that first division is simply crazy, i hope it stays like that! i love the craziness.

Swampdude 07-04-2005 15:54

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
We're gonna need some heavy duty goals in that division, cuz those things are gonna collapse during finals. That's pretty absurd. Every alliance will likely be able to cap 15-18 per match. :eek:

Ryan Dognaux 07-04-2005 16:45

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
The first division is brutal... and we're in it... I'm excited, it'll make for some great competition.

Alex Cormier 07-04-2005 16:53

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude
We're gonna need some heavy duty goals in that division, cuz those things are gonna collapse during finals. That's pretty absurd. Every alliance will likely be able to cap 15-18 per match. :eek:

and some bots can stack 10 high on the middle goal ;)

Jverdon 07-04-2005 17:03

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
We will get to see the divisions monday. It would be crazy if they came out with totaly diffrent divisions then what we have talked about.

Mirza95vx 07-04-2005 19:18

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
That would not be kool. I would have to change all of my scouting.

Tom Bottiglieri 07-04-2005 19:46

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jverdon
We will get to see the divisions monday. It would be crazy if they came out with totaly diffrent divisions then what we have talked about.

The great this is after this thread, I bet they will. :cool:

Jverdon 07-04-2005 19:57

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirza95vx
That would not be kool. I would have to change all of my scouting.

Same here I have already started collecting pictures of robots.

petek 07-04-2005 20:08

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Guess what? 312 has been added, so this morning's list is already out of date.

I have this mental image of the person who's in charge of updating the list, having already gone bananas from all the changes and chaos leading up to Atlanta, laughing demonically as he/she registers each change to the team list. "Wait till the kiddies on Chief Delphi see this one! They'll never get their scouting done now! BwooHaHaaHaaaa!"

Twelve days til we board the bus bound for Atlanta!

Jverdon 07-04-2005 20:26

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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jessjank. 07-04-2005 20:46

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Actually Jverdon, you're missing team 854 so your division lists are off!

EDIT: Thanks Swampdude for fixing that! I was just about to add it myself but spent some time playing around with some things so you got to it first! :)

Swampdude 07-04-2005 20:53

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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Jon K. 07-04-2005 22:35

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I give up, just when I think things are going good another one is added or deleted.................. Well if the first division does stay like that it will definately cause some interesting matches, and yes quite a few teams will be able to do 10 high on the center goal, we theoretically can, but have been unable to test this since we don't have a ceiling high enough to test with, and our center goal keeps breaking after having 1 or 2 tets on it.

Swampdude 08-04-2005 10:57

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
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201's signed up

Heretic121 08-04-2005 11:09

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
ok i quit until sunday lol... just division for as it stands now scares me so much...

25, 47, 88, 121, 126, 190, 237, 56, 103, 16, 254... and thats only up till 254 =X

petek 08-04-2005 12:10

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Gee, lookie who's paired up again in Archimedes: 179 & 233

Ouch.

Kit Gerhart 08-04-2005 12:11

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude
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201's signed up

Hey, I like this lineup and hope it "sticks." With 71, 179, 217, 233, and a bunch of other teams that I know and respect--that should be fun.

Stephen Kowski 08-04-2005 12:56

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
alright now you guys have to figure out which MC/announcers and refs are on which field??

that outta keep everyone busy until all the official stuff comes out :cool:

Joe Matt 08-04-2005 13:23

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Jeff Seaton has ALWAYS done Arch, so I'd say he'll stick there.

Steve W 08-04-2005 13:23

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I am announcing but we will not find out fields etc till we arrive. I do hope for Mark Leon and myself on Currie. As everyone know, we have had the best, loudest and proudest field at Championship for the last 2 years.

D.J. Fluck 08-04-2005 13:35

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
340th team has been added so possibly all of your dream divisions might have been broken up....im going to check and see who the new team is right now

Edit: 910 is the newest team registered

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Swampdude 08-04-2005 14:10

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Doh! Tech Tigers in our division again. That's just not right we would have to play each other 3 times..... What are the odds of that? And PINK! woohoo! This year has felt like the traveling UCF show for me.

petek 08-04-2005 14:40

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
1 Attachment(s)
This is probably already out of date, but I'm attaching the Fantasy FIRST Divisions, including 2005 comp winners and some qualifying records for your scouting pleasure.

Just to add fuel to the fire about which division is "toughest", here are the stats I found for number of regional winners in each division:
Archimedes: 21, Curie: 12, Galileo: 17, Newton: 22

ymmv, no guarantees of accuracy, do not eat after swimming

(revised attached doc: team 68 had two wins. Thanks to tkwetzel for pointing this out)

Alex Cormier 08-04-2005 15:19

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
wow and yes we are back in the first division! can't wait to see if this holds up to mondays selections.

tkwetzel 08-04-2005 16:11

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I want to see 69 register seeing that they won two regionals this year. They have a sweet robot.

Off-topic - anyone else notice the amazing job by teams 66, 67, 68, and 69?
Each of those teams won not one but TWO regionals. Probably the most dominant group of consecutive team numbers. (There were at least 13 teams that won 2 regionals this year, the four listed are the only consecutive team numbers to do it though).

Lil' Lavery 08-04-2005 16:14

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
64 won vegas, 2 tech awards, and 2 AVAs. 65 won a chairmans.
so now 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, AND 69!

D.J. Fluck 08-04-2005 16:29

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
1156 is off the list...but someone else took their spot

597 replaces them

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Jon K. 08-04-2005 19:56

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
1156 is off the list...but someone else took their spot

597 replaces them

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1653 1665 1671 1675
1676 1680 1700 1708

That means the changes have to be made where at least 1 winner from Newton goes to Arch, which would be 1027 making there be multiple instances of teams that were on a winning alliance together in the same division. I like this current list.

SizzelChest330 08-04-2005 23:14

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
1156 is off the list...but someone else took their spot

597 replaces them

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155 158 159 168
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1547 1574 1577 1590
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1653 1665 1671 1675
1676 1680 1700 1708

Uhh this keeps getting so flippin' crazy!
Archimedes has like most of my favorite teams as of now...
71..179..233..245..980
...I have a feeling FIRST people are checking this out...
I still think they need to divide divisions at random....
Its just kinda weird having a 1/4 shot at being with your friends :(
but whatever works best I guess...

Dorienne 09-04-2005 00:56

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SizzelChest330
Uhh this keeps getting so flippin' crazy!
Archimedes has like most of my favorite teams as of now...
71..179..233..245..980
...I have a feeling FIRST people are checking this out...
I still think they need to divide divisions at random....
Its just kinda weird having a 1/4 shot at being with your friends :(
but whatever works best I guess...


Agreed.

I just wonder why they haven't done the random selection thing. There are easy programs to make that do just that. Our Calculus Review teacher does that when he wants to put random people on the spot for either writing on the board or other stuffs.

Probably a lot more fair that way.

Waynep 09-04-2005 01:25

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
a chance to play with 45 & 67 woohoo!!!!!

Kevin Sevcik 09-04-2005 10:31

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait
Agreed.

I just wonder why they haven't done the random selection thing. There are easy programs to make that do just that. Our Calculus Review teacher does that when he wants to put random people on the spot for either writing on the board or other stuffs.

Probably a lot more fair that way.

I believe the logic there is that there's a chance of overloading a division with lots of low or high numbered teams, and they want to avoid this as much as possible. The Champs Division Selection has some alternative ideas, though.

Dorienne 09-04-2005 11:02

Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik
I believe the logic there is that there's a chance of overloading a division with lots of low or high numbered teams, and they want to avoid this as much as possible. The Champs Division Selection has some alternative ideas, though.

Indeed there are other alternatives, but they can set a limit on however many they pick for each division. Like, say they have 100 teams going to Nationals (probably happened back in about 97...but yeah, supposing here), and you need only 25 teams per division. They can set a limit on how many are selected, and when the 25 teams are picked, they can take the teams off the list that were already picked, and then keep going on until all the teams are gone.

*shrug* Just an idea.

geeknerd99 09-04-2005 11:08

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Well, with the current list, the VCU champions (401, 122, 435) are in the same division... could prove funny if we all made it to finals. No scouting needed!

Kevin Sevcik 09-04-2005 11:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait
Indeed there are other alternatives, but they can set a limit on however many they pick for each division. Like, say they have 100 teams going to Nationals (probably happened back in about 97...but yeah, supposing here), and you need only 25 teams per division. They can set a limit on how many are selected, and when the 25 teams are picked, they can take the teams off the list that were already picked, and then keep going on until all the teams are gone.

*shrug* Just an idea.


No, no. The problem they'd like to avoid is this: Archimedes has teams 1-300, Curie has team 1500-1650. Granted, that's taken to an extreme, but it's the sort of thing they'd like to avoid.

Alex Cormier 09-04-2005 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerd99
Well, with the current list, the VCU champions (401, 122, 435) are in the same division... could prove funny if we all made it to finals. No scouting needed!

it happened last year with the newton division. the buckeye winning team won newton. 1126, 67, 340

slickguy2007 09-04-2005 12:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
340th team has been added so possibly all of your dream divisions might have been broken up....im going to check and see who the new team is right now

Edit: 910 is the newest team registered

1 7 11 16
20 21 22 25
27 33 34 38
40 41 45 47
48 49 53 56
57 60 63 64
65 66 67 68
71 73 74 75
79 85 86 88
93 94 95 103
107 108 111 114
116 118 120 121
122 123 125 126
128 131 135 136
138 141 148 151
155 158 159 168
173 175 176 178
179 180 184 190
191 195 201 203
217 222 223 224
228 229 230 231
233 234 236 237
245 247 250 254
263 269 271 272
274 279 280 281
288 292 293 294
296 301 302 304
308 312 314 316
322 326 330 334
335 337 340 341
342 343 345 346
350 353 357 358
359 362 364 365
371 375 379 384
386 388 395 399
401 404 415 433
435 440 444 447
451 461 462 469
476 481 486 492
494 499 503 514
515 518 521 522
527 529 537 546
548 549 555 563
573 578 582 587
588 596 604 612
614 616 618 624
638 639 650 662
677 687 694 701
703 710 714 716
752 754 758 766
768 772 801 803
807 810 811 812
816 818 824 830
832 842 843 845
854 868 894 896
904 910 930 931
933 939 945 957
967 972 977 980
981 987 989 997
1000 1002 1006 1014
1022 1023 1024 1027
1033 1038 1051 1071
1072 1083 1089 1094
1100 1102 1108 1114
1126 1135 1137 1138
1140 1153 1156 1167
1180 1188 1189 1208
1211 1216 1218 1219
1230 1241 1249 1250
1251 1257 1259 1261
1266 1272 1279 1280
1286 1287 1289 1305
1345 1350 1367 1369
1370 1388 1389 1391
1394 1398 1402 1403
1444 1450 1466 1492
1497 1503 1506 1507
1508 1510 1511 1515
1517 1527 1539 1546
1547 1574 1577 1590
1592 1593 1595 1596
1597 1610 1625 1628
1641 1646 1647 1648
1653 1665 1671 1675
1676 1680 1700 1708

I really hope it stays this way, I like my division. 16, 25, 47, 56, 68, 103, 254, 980, and 1305, how can you go wrong there?

GO 1403!!!

Doug G 09-04-2005 13:45

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Originally Posted by slickguy2007
I really hope it stays this way, I like my division. 16, 25, 47, 56, 68, 103, 254, 980, and 1305, how can you go wrong there?

GO 1403!!!

As of now, I think 980 is in the first division with us, 217, 179, 233, 245, 71. Looks like fun!! Hope I'm figuring this out right. I used the attached Excel sheet. With the first sheet, just copy the text from the FIRST web site's team list in the second column and then the other sheets select the divisions counting 1-4 as they have done in the past. We'll see how close it is next week - it'll be fun no matter what!

Cowmankoza 09-04-2005 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slickguy2007
I really hope it stays this way, I like my division. 16, 25, 47, 56, 68, 103, 254, 980, and 1305, how can you go wrong there?

GO 1403!!!

If that turns out to be true, the first division looks deadly. when you mix teams like 1251(my team), 233, 71 and 179 its bound to be a clash of the titans, it'll be interesting if it stays like that

Corey Balint 09-04-2005 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slickguy2007
I really hope it stays this way, I like my division. 16, 25, 47, 56, 68, 103, 254, 980, and 1305, how can you go wrong there?

GO 1403!!!

Hey aroon, you missed a few. 121, 126, 88, 190, 237, 341, 365, 469, 716, and 1114, just to name a few more. I think we may have the new murderer's row.

Lil' Lavery 09-04-2005 20:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait
Indeed there are other alternatives, but they can set a limit on however many they pick for each division. Like, say they have 100 teams going to Nationals (probably happened back in about 97...but yeah, supposing here), and you need only 25 teams per division. They can set a limit on how many are selected, and when the 25 teams are picked, they can take the teams off the list that were already picked, and then keep going on until all the teams are gone.

*shrug* Just an idea.

Interesting idea. But fyi, the divisions are relatively new. In 97 it was all 1 big competition. You had to run between the fields.


As for this years competition. Wow, Archimedes is only getting better...
71, 107, 122, 173, 179, 191, 233, 245, 401, 435, 980, and 1027.....
Well, at least 116 will get to be pitted between 107 and 122.

The Lucas 10-04-2005 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Hey aroon, you missed a few. 121, 126, 88, 190, 237, 341, 365, 469, 716, and 1114, just to name a few more. I think we may have the new murderer's row.

Add 358 and 492 to fill in that murder's row. Both won a regional. 358 almost won another one. 492 was a #1 seed.

Koko Ed 10-04-2005 14:30

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The best thing about all of this is that everybody thinks they have an idea who is going to step up and rule the roost and that such and such a division is strong because it has these many regional winners and that the champion is going to rise up from there.
But does anyone remember last year when a strong team 5 came down having won 2 regionals and nearly winning a 3rd and ended up 2-5 and unpicked while 1394 who was last at Philadelphia was in the final 4?
Nothing is guaranteed so don't sleep on anyone at the championship.

Jay Trzaskos 10-04-2005 18:44

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I was just wondering, what time do you think FIRST is going to put the divisions up on their website?

JT
229

mrmummert 10-04-2005 19:09

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Hi all...

It may not matter,but i wonder if the lag time between getting your
robot and team from the pits to the playing field will play any in the
division spots? Remember its supposed to be 10 mins between the
Pits and the Dome. While at regional we were supposed to be prepared
to go next when we were told and you wer'nt far away,what will happen at the Atlanta?

I'm guessing the'll have a list and time for teams and perhaps
live TV in the Pits. Anyone know? It sure is gonna be a pain if you
have a very short turn around time between matches.

Jim Schaddelee 10-04-2005 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
Interesting idea. But fyi, the divisions are relatively new. In 97 it was all 1 big competition. You had to run between the fields.


As for this years competition. Wow, Archimedes is only getting better...
71, 107, 122, 173, 179, 191, 233, 245, 401, 435, 980, and 1027.....
Well, at least 116 will get to be pitted between 107 and 122.

Lil lavery

If thing stay this way and you are next to us in the pit please stop by and say hello ,ask for Jim or you can talk to my dad Ron he loves to talk .team 107 is so ready for this nationals,I was so impressed with the teams improvement from the Midwest to the west Michigan regional.Good luck to your team and all the teams .

Jim schaddelee
team 107

Tom Bottiglieri 10-04-2005 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos
I was just wondering, what time do you think FIRST is going to put the divisions up on their website?

No idea, but this is what I am doing out of sheer boredom..

I think im going to write a little VB program that will grab this page, search it for "division", "newton", or "galileo". When it finds that, it will scan for "195", grab that table row, then send an email to my cell phone which I will get as a text message.

Hopefully it works!

The Lucas 10-04-2005 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
while 1394 who was last at Philadelphia was in the final 4?

1394 was last at Philly but didn't go to Championship. I think you are thinking of 1218 CHA. They were last at Chesapeake but went on to be Championship Event Finalist 1.

Jon K. 10-04-2005 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lucas
1394 was last at Philly but didn't go to Championship. I think you are thinking of 1218 CHA. They were last at Chesapeake but went on to be Championship Event Finalist 1.

I think Koko Ed was talking about in the finals of Philly maybe, and team 53 was team 53 or 54 of 55 and went on to be picked by the number 1 alliance and won Chesapeake this year.

Jay Trzaskos 10-04-2005 21:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
No idea, but this is what I am doing out of sheer boredom..

I think im going to write a little VB program that will grab this page, search it for "division", "newton", or "galileo". When it finds that, it will scan for "195", grab that table row, then send an email to my cell phone which I will get as a text message.

Hopefully it works!

I wish I could write a VB program to do that. Actually, I wish i could write a VB program. Oh well, I hope it works for you Tom.

See you at Nats,
JT
229

Tom Bottiglieri 10-04-2005 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Trzaskos
I wish I could write a VB program to do that. Actually, I wish i could write a VB program. Oh well, I hope it works for you Tom.

See you at Nats,
JT
229

I realized that that was over my head, so Dave on my team is coding the back end that will look for new data, and I am making the php form so everyone can sign up to get a notification.

Should be up later.

David Guzman 11-04-2005 00:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug G
Looks like fun!! Hope I'm figuring this out right. I used the attached Excel sheet. With the first sheet, just copy the text from the FIRST web site's team list in the second column and then the other sheets select the divisions counting 1-4 as they have done in the past. We'll see how close it is next week - it'll be fun no matter what!

If it stays according to the spreadsheet, the first division looks very strong. Just to name a few:
65
71
107
179
233
245
494
845
...........and.........
1251 (That's us baby) :D

Looks scary doesn't it????????? :ahh:

Dave

Ricky Q. 11-04-2005 10:15

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They are up:

http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/FMPro?-db=team%20events.fp5&-format=team%5flist.htm&-lay=web&event=CMP&event%20year=2005&status=registe red&-max=2147483647&-sortfield=division&-sortfield=Team%20ID&-find

David Guzman 11-04-2005 11:19

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:ahh: WOW, The Archimedes division looks deadly... :ahh:
I am so ecxited to play in that division with all those teams. It looks like the spredsheet was actually pretty accurate.

This competition is going to be awsome. :)
Good Luck to all the teams from team 1251, and see you all at Atlanta, GA.


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