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Tom Bottiglieri 01-03-2005 16:25
2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Hmmm I think I stumbled upon something... ;)

www.team195.com/files/05div.htm

Kyle 01-03-2005 16:28
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Where did you find that????

Cory 01-03-2005 16:29
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Alright Tom, I'll bite :rolleyes:

I'll believe you when you show me a usfirst.org page that shows the same thing.

Second, it looks like you just went and put the teams into divisions by starting with the lowest team in division 1, second lowest in division 2, etc. I may be wrong, but I don't think FIRST does it this way.

You also put 180 in there twice and 188 and 84 out of order :p

Koko Ed 01-03-2005 16:32
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Eh, it's early.
They'll be ALOT more teams when the official divisions come up.

Corey Balint 01-03-2005 16:47
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
HAHAHAHA. Nice job Tom.

Last year, FIRST's process was rather simple, at least i thought so and if i remember correctly. They just counted off, 1,2,3,4, and placed teams into the divisions that way. It did change more though, when teams decided on going if they had won a regional/chairmans. For the most part, it may be accurate through the top one or two hundred.

Kyle 01-03-2005 16:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
Where did you find that????
Yea i bet all of you thought that i was tricked, but i wasn't i was just umm... acting, yea thats it I knew it was a fake all along, *nervous laugh*

D.J. Fluck 01-03-2005 16:56
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Not quite, buddy.... :p

Nothing will ever top the "Nationals is cancelled" rumor that threw everyone off a few years ago

Tom Bottiglieri 01-03-2005 16:59
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
Not quite, buddy.... :p

Nothing will ever top the "Nationals is cancelled" rumor that threw everyone off a few years ago
Or how about FIRST is moving to Indiana... :rolleyes:

D.J. Fluck 01-03-2005 17:08
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
Or how about FIRST is moving to Indiana... :rolleyes:
Hey, nobody has come out and disproved that yet :D

Rick TYler 01-03-2005 17:11
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
Hmmm I think I stumbled upon something... ;)
DooD!!1! You left off my team -- but that's OK. We don't look high tech and don't have custom machined parts. My feelings aren't hurt. Much...

But you did leave off team 492. Big mistake. Big. They rock. I've seen their bot scoop up a vision tetra without slowing down and get it into place above the tall goal in about 5 seconds. In autonomous mode. Respect the Titan Robotics Club .

They aren't the only good Washington team, either. Team 1039 has a slick rotating tower and a solid drive train. They rock too. Team 1318 has a really interesting double-skewer that is just as good at picking tetras from the floor as from the auto loader.

Looks like a case of discrimination against the PNW regional to me... :]

Joe Matt 01-03-2005 17:16
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
NO! That can't be true, we arn't pitted next to MOE! :(

Eugenia Gabrielov 01-03-2005 17:58
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Oh my. Well, all I have to say to that, is FIRST is coming to Indiana :P

dez250 01-03-2005 18:13
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
The scoring system has been being tested to great lengths recently to try to avoid problems from future times. Tom if you did see anything it was only a test and nothing even close to official.

Karthik 01-03-2005 18:18
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Nice try Tom!

For a second let's suppose that this was legitimate. Look at the murderers row that's been created in Galileo; 33, 47, 60 & 71 would all be adjacent in pit row.

Tom Bottiglieri 01-03-2005 18:49
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karthik
Nice try Tom!

For a second let's suppose that this was legitimate. Look at the murderers row that's been created in Galileo; 33, 47, 60 & 71 would all be adjacent in pit row.
Not to mention the powerhouses of 21, 173, *shameless plug* 195, and 237.

R.J. 01-03-2005 21:06
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
We shall wait and see inthe upcoming weeks what the divisions for the championships will be. In the meantime, that speculated list if It turned out to be the actually list then the championships will definitely be exciting.

Jon K. 01-03-2005 21:50
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
Not to mention the powerhouses of 21, 173, *shameless plug* 195, and 237.
I am all in on that one. I have wanted to be back in the same division as the Beast since 02 when we won with them. I think they should go back to that pick 5 in a row thing. That created some interesting match ups from around the country, and what the best part was though is that a lot of the early teams that were around in 98 when the numbers were "set" were in the same divisions, so that a lot of the UTC teams, and GM teams were together, that created some good match ups in Newton that year.

Joe Ross 01-03-2005 21:51
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From the source:

PHP Code:
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  <o:Author>Tom Bottiglieri</o:Author>

  <o:LastAuthor>Tom Bottiglieri</o:LastAuthor>

  <o:Created>2005-03-01T20:53:47Z</o:Created>

  <o:LastSaved>2005-03-01T21:17:21Z</o:LastSaved>

  <o:Version>11.5606</o:Version>

 </o:DocumentProperties> 
;)

Jon K. 01-03-2005 22:01
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Ross
From the source:

PHP Code:
<o:DocumentProperties>

  <o:Author>Tom Bottiglieri</o:Author>

  <o:LastAuthor>Tom Bottiglieri</o:LastAuthor>

  <o:Created>2005-03-01T20:53:47Z</o:Created>

  <o:LastSaved>2005-03-01T21:17:21Z</o:LastSaved>

  <o:Version>11.5606</o:Version>

 </o:DocumentProperties> 
;)
BUT..... It is also hosted on 195's site so that would explain him being the author, as he wasn't linking to the FIRST website.

Alex Golec 01-03-2005 22:04
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1 Attachment(s)
I'll bite and throw it back: this is inaccurate in my opinion. Assuming that the teams listed on that page are the current competitors, the Juggernauts should be in the Galileo division. The template for divisions is: Archimedes, Curie, Newton, Galileo- this has been in use since 2003. The teams are basically listed numerically and sorted by that template. (1st, 5th, 9th, and so on are in the first division; 2nd, 6th, .. in the second division; and so on) The division that start the list rotates each year. The first team numerically in both 2003 and 2004 was the Juggernauts (0001). In 03 they we placed in Curie, and last year they participated in Newton. Following the template, they should be placed in Galileo this year. Thats my $.02 analysis of the championship sorting system. Attached is my current unofficial division listing- I've been updating it since 3 months ago just to see how my team moves around as teams join in and drop out. However, through the power of coincidence, 469 has ended up in Galileo- what I expected based on my sheet.

_Alex

Jon K. 01-03-2005 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex469
I'll bite and throw it back: this is inaccurate in my opinion. Assuming that the teams listed on that page are the current competitors, the Juggernauts should be in the Galileo division. The template for divisions is: Archimedes, Curie, Newton, Galileo- this has been in use since 2003. The teams are basically listed numerically and sorted by that template. (1st, 5th, 9th, and so on are in the first division; 2nd, 6th, .. in the second division; and so on) The division that start the list rotates each year. The first team numerically in both 2003 and 2004 was the Juggernauts (0001). In 03 they we placed in Curie, and last year they participated in Newton. Following the template, they should be placed in Galileo this year. Thats my $.02 analysis of the championship sorting system. Attached is my current unofficial division listing- I've been updating it since 3 months ago just to see how my team moves around as teams join in and drop out. However, through the power of coincidence, 469 has ended up in Galileo- what I expected based on my sheet.

_Alex
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Anyone else get this when trying to open the attatchment? And does anyone know how to correct this?

BoyWithCape195 01-03-2005 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon K.
Anyone else get this when trying to open the attatchment? And does anyone know how to correct this?

I got the same thing....Right click save target as. Then right click on the icon where u saved it to (will save as an explorer file (mine did)) and "open with" then select excel.

Jon K. 01-03-2005 22:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
I got the same thing....Right click save target as. Then right click on the icon where u saved it to (will save as an explorer file (mine did)) and "open with" then select excel.
That works thanks,

I like that version a lot too because we are still with some awesome teams.

Lil' Lavery 03-03-2005 14:56
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Nice try. One major mistake though. If you had put 116 in its proper size and bolded it I would have beleived you. =P

whakojacko 06-03-2005 01:09
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
were not on the list (no love :( )

Kit Gerhart 06-03-2005 08:01
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck
Hey, nobody has come out and disproved that yet :D
That would seem reasonable for FIRST to move to Indiana. After all, the national model airplane organization, AMA, moved to Indiana from Washington D.C. a few years ago. Land is cheap in Indiana, unlike in the northeast and middle Atlantic areas.

Koko Ed 13-03-2005 16:21
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How the championship would look after week 1.

1 (Archimedes) 2 (Curie) 3 (Galileo) 4 (Newton)



1 7 1116
19 20 21 22
25 27 33 34
41 45 47 48
49 53 60 63
65 66 71 73
74 75 79 85
86 88 93 94
95 103 107 108
111 114 116 120
121 122 123 125
126 128 131 135
136 138 141 148
151 155 158 159
167 168 173 175
178 179 180 184
190 191 195 203
217 222 223 224
228 230 231 233
234 236 237 247
250 254 263 271
272 279 280 281
288 292 294 296
301 302 304 308
322 326 329 330
335 337 340 341
342 343 345 346
353 357 358 359
365 364 365 371
379 384 386 388
395 399 401 404
406 415 433 435
440 444 447 451
461 462 469 486
494 499 515 518
521 522 529 546
548 549 555 563
573 578 582 587
588 596 612 613
614 616 618 638
650 662 677 687
701 703 710 714
716 752 754 758
766 768 801 803
807 810 811 812
816 818 824 830
843 868 894 896
904 930 933 945
967 972 977 980
981 987 989 997
1000 1002 1019 1022
1023 1024 1033 1038
1048 1071 1083 1089
1094 1100 1102 1114
1126 1137 1138 1140
1153 1180 1188 1189
1208 1211 1216 1218
1219 1241 1250 1251
1257 1261 1272 1280
1286 1287 1289 1345
1350 1367 1369 1370
1388 1389 1391 1394
1402 1403 1422 1450
1497 1511 1517 1610
1648 1671

Cory 13-03-2005 16:29
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Galileo would be the most insane division ever.

Jon K. 13-03-2005 22:14
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory
Galileo would be the most insane division ever.

Very similar to 02, when Newton had some of the highest caliber teams there are. We had most of the UTC teams, numerous GM teams, and the BEAST.

I don't mind Galileo if it turns out like that......

Koko Ed 13-03-2005 22:23
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon K.
Very similar to 02, when Newton had some of the highest caliber teams there are. We had most of the UTC teams, numerous GM teams, and the BEAST.

I don't mind Galileo if it turns out like that......
By next week it'll change alot.
I bet at least 20 teams sign up for the championship.

Greg Needel 13-03-2005 22:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
By next week it'll change alot.
I bet at least 20 teams sign up for the championship.

i doubt that...i think that most of the additions we will see are rookie teams as all the other teams had oppertunity to sign up openly.

Alex Cormier 13-03-2005 22:48
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Hmmmm.... interesting ;)

Joe Matt 14-03-2005 16:44
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
What makes you guys think this year's fields will be named Newton, Cure, Archimedes, and Galileo? I've heard some new names floating around..... ;)

Goobergunch 14-03-2005 21:25
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Needel
i doubt that...i think that most of the additions we will see are rookie teams as all the other teams had oppertunity to sign up openly.
Meh. Some veteran teams don't have the support to go unless they were to win by qualifying. For instance, 1168 is a third-year team that has never gone to nationals. Although we could have signed up during the open registration period (heck, I really wanted to), there wasn't enough support from other team members and our school to do so. However, if we were to win at our regional, I can almost guarantee that my team would be so motivated to go that we'd be able to raise the money and get the permission to go.

Greg Needel 15-03-2005 22:09
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephM
What makes you guys think this year's fields will be named Newton, Cure, Archimedes, and Galileo? I've heard some new names floating around..... ;)

2005 division names:

Lavery, flowers, Baker, johnson and the main field being Kamen

whakojacko 15-03-2005 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobergunch
Meh. Some veteran teams don't have the support to go unless they were to win by qualifying. For instance, 1168 is a third-year team that has never gone to nationals. Although we could have signed up during the open registration period (heck, I really wanted to), there wasn't enough support from other team members and our school to do so. However, if we were to win at our regional, I can almost guarantee that my team would be so motivated to go that we'd be able to raise the money and get the permission to go.
Yes same here, except it wasnt a money issue. Our coach wouldnt let us go unless (i believe) we got to the finals of a regional. But we won sacramento, so were going anyways.

Koko Ed 20-03-2005 08:01
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Needel
i doubt that...i think that most of the additions we will see are rookie teams as all the other teams had oppertunity to sign up openly.
Check it out: From 258 to 286.

Here's this weeks list.

1 (Archimedes) 2 (Curie) 3 (Galileo) 4 (Newton)


1 7 11 16
20 21 22 25
27 33 34 41
45 47 48 49
53 57 60 63
65 66 67 68
69 71 73 74
75 79 85 86
88 93 94 95
103 107 108 111
114 116 120 121
122 123 125 126
128 131 135 136
138 141 148 151
155 158 159 167
168 173 175 176
178 179 180 184
190 191 195 203
217 222 223 224
228 230 231 233
234 236 237 247
250 254 263 271
272 279 280 281
288 292 294 296
301 302 304 308
322 326 329 330
335 337 340 341
342 343 345 346
350 353 357 358
359 362 364 365
371 379 384 386
388 395 399 401
404 406 415 433
435 440 444 447
451 461 462 469
481 486 492 494
499 515 518 521
522 529 537 546
548 549 555 563
573 578 582 587
588 596 604 612
613 614 616 618
638 650 662 677
687 701 703 710
714 716 752 754
758 766 768 801
803 807 810 811
812 816 818 824
830 842 843 868
894 896 904 930
931 933 939 945
957 967 972 977
980 981 987 989
997 1000 1002 1014
1019 1022 1023 1024
1033 1038 1048 1071
1072 1083 1089 1094
1100 1102 1114 1126
1137 1138 1140 1153
1180 1188 1189 1208
1211 1216 1218 1219
1241 1249 1250 1251
1257 1259 1261 1272
1280 1286 1287 1289
1324 1345 1350 1367
1369 1370 1388 1389
1391 1394 1402 1403
1422 1444 1450 1492
1497 1510 1511 1517
1527 1592 1595 1596
1610 1625 1648 1665
1671 1708

Alex Martin 20-03-2005 22:20
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
is it somehow possible we will end up in Archimedes again?

Koko Ed 20-03-2005 22:23
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Martin
is it somehow possible we will end up in Archimedes again?
Well there's two more weeks of competition so anything is possible.

Yan Wang 20-03-2005 22:38
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
We are registering for championships. It will take a bit more fundraising, but we will get there.

Dorienne 20-03-2005 23:35
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
How does the breakdown work for which divisions each team is in? Do they randomly place us or do they just go by order like Ed did up there? Sorry, I never really knew how FIRST did it. Does anyone have any clue how they divide us up?

nobrakes8 21-03-2005 01:55
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Somebody at FIRST is reading this post, now that people are speculateing FIRST will probably just throw a curve ball and start with 1671, 1648, 1610, 1517 working backwards, just so they could laugh at us for trying to figure out their system. (if it was nice and even with 4 teams across the bottom row it wouldnt really matter)

But hey if FIRST wants to put 1071 and 126 in the same divison we won't complain ;-)

Koko Ed 21-03-2005 05:07
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nobrakes8
Somebody at FIRST is reading this post, now that people are speculateing FIRST will probably just throw a curve ball and start with 1671, 1648, 1610, 1517 working backwards, just so they could laugh at us for trying to figure out their system. (if it was nice and even with 4 teams across the bottom row it wouldnt really matter)

But hey if FIRST wants to put 1071 and 126 in the same divison we won't complain ;-)
This is the way FIRST has been doing this the past few years. It's easy for them so I doubt they could care less about some specualtive post on a messageboard.

Chris Fultz 21-03-2005 11:54
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I overheard some of the FIRST people talking at Florida and the Boilermaker regionals - they are looking at naming the fields after companies that want to sponsor the field, sort of like sports arenas. It will be a great fund-raiser for FIRST and help keep the cost down for teams.

Top candidates so far - Coke, Pepsi, Sprint, Verizon and American Express.

Kit Gerhart 21-03-2005 12:25
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz
I overheard some of the FIRST people talking at Florida and the Boilermaker regionals - they are looking at naming the fields after companies that want to sponsor the field, sort of like sports arenas. It will be a great fund-raiser for FIRST and help keep the cost down for teams.

Top candidates so far - Coke, Pepsi, Sprint, Verizon and American Express.
How about Bud, Coors Light, Jack Daniels, Marlboro, and Skoal, or would those sponsors not present the right image for FIRST.

MarciCochran447 21-03-2005 13:38
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz
I overheard some of the FIRST people talking at Florida and the Boilermaker regionals - they are looking at naming the fields after companies that want to sponsor the field, sort of like sports arenas. It will be a great fund-raiser for FIRST and help keep the cost down for teams.

Top candidates so far - Coke, Pepsi, Sprint, Verizon and American Express.

OH, Say it ain't so! Is nothing sacred?

I am all for making things more affordable to teams, as I am already spending a great deal of my "spare time" raising funds for my team. If we must showcase sponsors in order to defray costs FOR TEAMS, then how about this...

Archimedes (brought to you by Coke)
Curie (brought to you by Pepsi)
Galileo (brought to you by Sprint)
Newton (brought to you by American Express)

:)

Kyle 21-03-2005 14:57
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit Gerhart
How about Bud, Coors Light, Jack Daniels, Marlboro, and Skoal, or would those sponsors not present the right image for FIRST.
That is a bit harsh, I know that that had been talked about in another thread. I also don't think that they would be the proper sponsors for the fields unless they used there other corporate names.

Kit Gerhart 21-03-2005 15:56
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
That is a bit harsh, I know that that had been talked about in another thread. I also don't think that they would be the proper sponsors for the fields unless they used there other corporate names.
I was being facetious with my list of "sponsors," hence the smiley. ....but just think how much FIRST could use some of the money they provide to NASCAR teams.:)

Kyle 21-03-2005 16:05
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit Gerhart
I was being facetious with my list of "sponsors," hence the smiley.
I didn't mean to be well, mean.I was at school and the smilies didn't register there so I didn't see them, :)

Kit Gerhart 21-03-2005 16:08
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
I didn't mean to be well, mean.I was at school and the smilies didn't register there so I didn't see them, :)
No problem :)

Chris Fultz 21-03-2005 17:52
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarciCochran447
OH, Say it ain't so! Is nothing sacred? :)

Remember, we are in the "rumor mill", and I have been on limited sleep for 5 days..... ;)

Karthik 21-03-2005 18:01
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz
I overheard some of the FIRST people talking at Florida and the Boilermaker regionals - they are looking at naming the fields after companies that want to sponsor the field, sort of like sports arenas. It will be a great fund-raiser for FIRST and help keep the cost down for teams.

Top candidates so far - Coke, Pepsi, Sprint, Verizon and American Express.
This is not without precedent. Last year at the Canadian Super Regional in Toronto, we had two fields. Our lead sponsor was General Motors of Canada, and the fields were named "Pontiac" and "Chevrolet". Over top of each field, there was a large banner with the field name. It was pretty neat.

Koko Ed 24-03-2005 17:07
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Well now there are over 300 team signed up for the championship including a pair of rookie teams form Isreal! :)

Koko Ed 25-03-2005 21:35
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Here's this weeks list.

1 (Archimedes) 2 (Curie) 3 (Galileo) 4 (Newton)

1 7 11 16
20 21 22 25
27 33 34 41
45 47 48 49
53 57 60 63
65 66 67 68
69 71 73 74
75 79 85 86
88 93 94 95
103 107 108 111
114 116 120 121
122 123 125 126
128 131 135 136
138 141 148 151
155 158 159 167
168 173 175 176
178 179 180 184
190 191 195 203
217 222 223 224
228 230 231 233
234 236 237 245
247 250 254 263
269 271 272 279
280 281 288 292
294 296 301 302
304 308 322 326
329 330 335 337
340 341 342 343
345 346 350 353
357 358 359 362
364 365 371 375
379 384 386 388
395 399 401 404
406 415 433 435
440 444 447 451
461 462 469 481
486 492 494 499
503 515 518 521
522 527 529 537
538 546 548 549
555 563 573 578
582 587 588 596
604 612 614 616
618 638 650 662
677 687 701 703
710 714 716 752
754 758 766 768
801 803 807 810
811 812 816 818
824 830 832 842
843 868 894 896
904 930 931 933
939 945 957 967
972 977 980 981
987 989 997 1000
1002 1014 1019 1022
1023 1024 1027 1033
1038 1071 1072 1083
1089 1094 1100 1102
1108 1114 1126 1137
1138 1140 1153 1180
1188 1189 1208 1211
1216 1218 1219 1241
1249 1250 1251 1257
1259 1261 1272 1279
1280 1286 1287 1289
1324 1345 1350 1367
1369 1370 1388 1389
1391 1394 1402 1403
1422 1444 1450 1492
1497 1506 1507 1510
1511 1517 1527 1546
1574 1577 1592 1595
1596 1610 1625 1646
1648 1665 1671 1676
1708

Lil' Lavery 27-03-2005 17:22
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Needel
2005 division names:

Lavery, flowers, Baker, johnson and the main field being Kamen
Now wouldn't it be ironic if 116 landed in a division other than Lavery? :p




Hmmm... I wonder if 118 will go now that they've won Colorado. Itll be interesting. That would bump 122 into our(116's) division, and push 173 out. Not sure if that is better or worse for us....

Alex Cormier 27-03-2005 17:28
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
wow, currently
Galileo is one crazy division, i hope it stays like that.

Meyerman 27-03-2005 17:54
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
well folks time to shift yer divisions team 56! all the way at the top of the list in now goin to nationals as long as we get the money to go sooo hopefully we will be were team 57 is now. being we are lower at least it dosnt look like we will be next to team 60 in the pits this year or like we will get our buddies team 237 in our division but alot will change by the time the real list comes out.

Koko Ed 27-03-2005 18:37
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meyerman
well folks time to shift yer divisions team 56! all the way at the top of the list in now goin to nationals as long as we get the money to go sooo hopefully we will be were team 57 is now. being we are lower at least it dosnt look like we will be next to team 60 in the pits this year or like we will get our buddies team 237 in our division but alot will change by the time the real list comes out.
A new list will be here next week. If you guys sign up you'll be there.

Tom Bottiglieri 27-03-2005 18:46
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull 1126
wow, currently
Galileo is one crazy division, i hope it stays like that.
I dont... :ahh:

Koko Ed 27-03-2005 18:55
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull 1126
wow, currently
Galileo is one crazy division, i hope it stays like that.
At the championship all the divisions are tough.

Ali Ahmed 27-03-2005 19:19
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I wish Galeleio stays that way. It has 254 and 980, along with other great teams, and people saw what happens when these three teams are together. :)

Kevin Sevcik 27-03-2005 19:39
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meyerman
well folks time to shift yer divisions team 56! all the way at the top of the list in now goin to nationals as long as we get the money to go sooo hopefully we will be were team 57 is now. being we are lower at least it dosnt look like we will be next to team 60 in the pits this year or like we will get our buddies team 237 in our division but alot will change by the time the real list comes out.
*shakes fist* curse you! If you were team 58 I could postpone my planning on how to deal with 71......

Koko Ed 27-03-2005 19:43
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik
*shakes fist* curse you! If you were team 58 I could postpone my planning on how to deal with 71......
Like dealing with 67 is a consolation prize. :rolleyes:

Swampdude 27-03-2005 19:48
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Hey I want 71 in my division. Just means there's a chance of winning nats. You know they're gonna be there again.... I wanna know what was in that shiny suitcase???? :confused: Maybe Woody's bling medalion? Or the secret Pepsi formula?

Koko Ed 27-03-2005 19:59
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdude
Hey I want 71 in my division. Just means there's a chance of winning nats. You know they're gonna be there again.... I wanna know what was in that shiny suitcase???? :confused: Maybe Woody's bling medalion? Or the secret Pepsi formula?
Especially in Coke town.

Side note: You'd think Coke would've started at least one team after having a Pepsi sponsored team win it all in their backyard.

mhayon 27-03-2005 23:32
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Marsellus Wallace's soul.

MasonMM 28-03-2005 00:38
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Hmmm... I wonder if 118 will go now that they've won Colorado. Itll be interesting.
Oh it's looking mighty good for the robonauts right now, after our sucess in denver. Atlanta better watch out, the monster Chainzilla is on its way.

Winged Wonder 28-03-2005 16:17
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MasonMM
Oh it's looking mighty good for the robonauts right now, after our sucess in denver. Atlanta better watch out, the monster Chainzilla is on its way.
mmm... Chainzilla is most certainly one of my favorite bots, along with Swampthing and a few others :D i'm excited to see you guys in Atlanta!

and ooo we're in Newton now? we had this long streak of being in Archemidies, and last year we were in Curie, and as i've gone through this thread, on all of the lists we're in Newton now. :) not that i'm complaining, but its kind of neat.

and as for the changing of division names... whats going to happen when more divisions are needed? i'm curious to see how that turns out...

Lil' Lavery 28-03-2005 16:59
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Being in a horribly tough division isnt always a bad thing. Sure, itll be harder to win that division, but if you win it, then youll have a good shot at winning the entire championship event as you should have (in theory) the best teams as they are the best of the best division. Of course, this doesnt always hold true. And in a tougher division its a LOT more likely that youll see a "powerhouse" team go down in the elimination matches.
And of course, a loaded division should mean some REALLY exciting matches, especially in the semis and finals, which is good for the spectators. And seeing as 116 probably won't (hopefully Im wrong) be in those last few matches, it means more excitment for us! :D That is if we end up in the "loaded division".

SizzelChest330 29-03-2005 22:03
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Were up to 312 now!
so heres this weeks list
I would garentee many more teams will sign up after this weekend so dont think its final

Archimedes Curie Galileo Newton

1 7 11 16
20 21 22 25
27 33 34 41
45 47 48 49
53 56 57 60
63 65 66 67
68 69 71 73
74 75 79 85
86 88 93 95
103 107 108 111
114 116 120 121
122 123 125 126
128 131 135 136
138 141 148 151
155 158 159 168
173 175 176 178
179 180 184 190
191 195 203 217
222 223 224 228
230 231 233 234
236 237 245 247
250 254 263 269
271 272 279 280
281 288 292 294
296 301 302 304
308 314 316 322
326 330 334 335
337 340 341 342
343 345 346 350
353 357 358 359
362 364 365 371
375 379 384 386
388 395 399 401
404 406 415 433
435 440 444 447
451 461 462 469
481 486 482 494
499 503 515 518
521 522 527 529
537 538 546 548
549 555 563 573
578 588 596 604
612 614 616 618
638 639 650 662
677 687 701 703
710 714 716 752
754 758 766 768
801 803 807 810
811 812 816 818
824 830 832 842
843 868 894 896
904 930 931 933
939 945 957 967
972 977 980 981
987 989 997 1000
1002 1014 1019 1022
1023 1024 1027 1033
1038 1071 1083 1089
1094 1100 1102 1108
1114 1126 1137 1138
1140 1153 1156 1180
1188 1189 1208 1211
1216 1218 1219 1230
1241 1249 1250 1251
1257 1259 1261 1272
1279 1280 1286 1287
1289 1324 1345 1350
1367 1369 1370 1388
1389 1391 1394 1402
1403 1444 1450 1492
1497 1506 1507 1510
1511 1517 1527 1546
1574 1577 1590 1592
1595 1596 1597 1610
1625 1646 1647 1648
1653 1665 1671 1675
1676 1680 1700 1708

The divisions look more evenly distributed this time around ;)

Scott358 30-03-2005 21:30
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Hopefully team 56 is coming, as you have an awesome bot. I was shocked when I heard after the Philly finals you were not going.

Hopefully we can play with you, instead of against you in Atlanta!!!

Scott358
Mentor
Team 358 - Festo Hauppauge Robotic Eagles
2005 Philly finalists
2005 LI Regional Champions (along with 527 and 870)
2005 LI Regional Chairman's Award

Goldeye 30-03-2005 21:38
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Fresh off the press: team 694 will be going to Atlanta.

mrmummert 31-03-2005 22:16
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Hi...

Are these really going to be the divisions? Or will FIRST
assign teams differently than whats posted here?

Also if FIRST does assign teams and divisions,when could
we expect them to post it?

thanks
Mr. Mummert team 1610

nobrakes8 31-03-2005 22:29
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmummert
Hi...

Are these really going to be the divisions? Or will FIRST
assign teams differently than whats posted here?

Also if FIRST does assign teams and divisions,when could
we expect them to post it?

thanks
Mr. Mummert team 1610
This is just a guess at how we think the divisons will be set up based on how FIRST has done it the past few years.

I'd assume we could expect the divisions posted shortly after this week when all the Chairman's awards and regional champions are decided. I'm guessing FIRST is going to give the newly qualified teams a few days to decide if they're going to Atlanta or not and then post the divisions.
(That's just a guess on when the divisions will be posted, I could be wrong)

Joe Matt 31-03-2005 22:46
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Oh god...

*please stay pitted next to MOE*
*please stay pitted next to MOE*
*please stay pitted next to MOE*

slickguy2007 01-04-2005 12:50
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
It would be funny if FIRST takes a look at this thread and decides to mess with us. They are probably going to devise a new way of organizing teams into divisions and we are going to look at our (bootleg) list and think.... well what a waste of time that was :rolleyes:

GO 1403!!!

Kit Gerhart 01-04-2005 13:28
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slickguy2007
It would be funny if FIRST takes a look at this thread and decides to mess with us. They are probably going to devise a new way of organizing teams into divisions and we are going to look at our (bootleg) list and think.... well what a waste of time that was :rolleyes:

GO 1403!!!
I hadn't really thought much about it, but, to me, it would make sense to assign teams to divisions in a totally random manner. The way it has been done in the past, teams with adjacent numbers would "never" be in the same division. It would be nice to have a system that would completely "mix up" the teams into the divisions so, for example, we'd have the possibility of being in the same division with Cyber Blue.

Lil' Lavery 01-04-2005 14:55
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
If your prediction holds true, and 118 decides to register (they won colorado so they can), that would put both 122 and 173 in the same division as us! Not to mention our pals on team 388 as well! :ahh:

Jon K. 01-04-2005 15:49
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
This is definately based on the past 2 years, in 2002 they took blocks of 5 teams and placed them together, this allowed for teams to really be pitted together, and early teams 1998 and earlier, if they had the same sponsor, they were together, so there were a few GM teams, and then 5 UTC teams in our division that year, it was an interesting way to group them.

mrmummert 01-04-2005 23:25
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Hi all...

Ok here is what we heard from FIRST today about divisions.
They will be posting this years divisions on April 11th. That
was mentioned in an e-mail that was sent to our team today.
I remember reading something about registration being done
by division assignment also for the national.

Thats all i know for now.

Koko Ed 02-04-2005 08:05
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
1 (Archimedes) 2 (Curie) 3 (Galileo) 4 (Newton)

1 7 11 16
20 21 22 25
27 33 34 38
40 41 45 47
48 49 53 56
57 60 63 65
66 67 68 69
71 73 74 75
79 85 86 88
93 94 95 103
107 108 111 114
116 118 120 121
122 123 125 126
128 131 135 136
138 141 148 151
155 158 159 168
173 175 176 178
179 180 184 190
191 195 203 217
222 223 224 228
229 230 231 233
234 236 237 245
247 250 254 263
269 271 272 274
279 280 281 287
288 292 294 296
301 302 304 308
314 316 322 326
330 334 335 337
340 341 342 343
345 346 350 353
357 358 359 362
364 365 371 375
379 384 386 388
395 399 401 404
415 433 435 440
444 447 451 461
462 469 481 486
492 494 499 503
515 518 521 522
527 529 537 538
546 548 549 555
563 573 578 582
587 588 596 604
612 614 616 618
638 639 650 662
677 687 694 701
703 710 714 716
752 754 758 766
768 801 803 807
810 811 812 816
818 824 830 832
842 843 845 868
894 896 904 930
931 933 939 945
957 967 972 977
980 981 987 989
997 1000 1002 1006
1014 1019 1022 1023
1024 1027 1033 1038
1071 1072 1083 1089
1094 1100 1102 1108
1114 1126 1137 1138
1140 1153 1156 1167
1180 1188 1189 1208
1211 1216 1218 1219
1230 1241 1249 1250
1251 1257 1259 1261
1272 1279 1280 1286
1287 1289 1305 1324
1345 1350 1367 1369
1370 1388 1389 1391
1394 1402 1403 1444
1450 1492 1497 1506
1507 1510 1511 1517
1527 1546 1574 1577
1590 1592 1595 1596
1597 1610 1619 1625
1628 1646 1647 1648
1653 1665 1671 1675
1676 1680 1700 1708

kjohnson 02-04-2005 09:47
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Now 401 and 435 are next to each other! Galileo should be a lot of fun (if we can survive). One more team needs to register so 1610 can get in on the fun too.

Lil' Lavery 02-04-2005 18:07
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
118 is signed up, so now 122 and 173 are in Arch with us. Pity 388 isnt any more (hopefully they get bumped over 1 division to be in Arch with us).

Joe Matt 02-04-2005 18:36
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
118 is signed up, so now 122 and 173 are in Arch with us. Pity 388 isnt any more (hopefully they get bumped over 1 division to be in Arch with us).
Grundy isn't registered anymore? Whaa....

tkwetzel 02-04-2005 18:46
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephM
Grundy isn't registered anymore? Whaa....
I believe that he means that Grundy is not listed in Archimedes anymore.

Also, looking at the list Koko Ed posted...there are at least 16 regionals winners/finalists in Archimedes. That is going to be some stiff competition.

Jon K. 03-04-2005 00:39
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
If FIRST was to go back to the 02 way of divisioning then they would look something like this.

Archimedes
1 7 11 16 20 57 60 63 65 66 107 108 111 114 116155 158 159 168 173 229 230 231 233 234 288 292 294 296 301 345 346 350 353 357 415 433 435 440 444 527 529 537 538 546 638 639 650 662 677 810 811 812 816 818 957 967 972 977 980 1071 1072 1083 1089 1094 1211 1216 1218 1219 1230 1345 1350 1367 1369 1370 1527 1546 1574 1577 1590 1676

Curie
21 22 25 27 33 67 68 69 71 73 118 120 121 122 123 175 176 178 179 180 236 237 245 247 250 302 304 308 314 316 358 359 362 364 365 447 451 461 462 469 548 549 555 563 573 687 694 701 703 710 824 830 832 842 843 981 987 989 997 1000 1100 1102 1108 1114 1126 1241 1249 1250 1251 1257 1388 1389 1391 1394 1402 1592 1595 1596 1597 1610 1680

Galileo
34 38 40 41 45 74 75 79 85 86 125 126 128 131 135 184 190 191 195 203 254 263 269 271 272 322 326 330 334 335 371 375 379 384 386 481 486 492 494 499 578 582 587 588 596 714 716 752 754 758 845 868 894 896 904 1002 1006 1014 1019 1022 1137 1138 1140 1153 1156 1259 1261 1272 1279 1280 1403 1444 1450 1492 1497 1619 1625 1628 1646 1647 1700

Newton
47 48 49 53 56 88 93 94 95 103 136 138 141 148 151 217 222 223 224 228 274 279 280 281 287 337 340 341 342 343 388 395 399 401 404 503 515 518 521 522 604 612 614 616 618 766 768 801 803 807 930 931 933 939 945 1023 1024 1027 1033 1038 1167 1180 1188 1189 1208 1286 1287 1289 1305 1324 1506 1507 1510 1511 1517 1648 1653 1665 1671 1675 1708

Koko Ed 03-04-2005 08:17
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon K.
If FIRST was to go back to the 02 way of divisioning then they would look something like this.

Archimedes
1 7 11 16 20 57 60 63 65 66 107 108 111 114 116155 158 159 168 173 229 230 231 233 234 288 292 294 296 301 345 346 350 353 357 415 433 435 440 444 527 529 537 538 546 638 639 650 662 677 810 811 812 816 818 957 967 972 977 980 1071 1072 1083 1089 1094 1211 1216 1218 1219 1230 1345 1350 1367 1369 1370 1527 1546 1574 1577 1590 1676

Curie
21 22 25 27 33 67 68 69 71 73 118 120 121 122 123 175 176 178 179 180 236 237 245 247 250 302 304 308 314 316 358 359 362 364 365 447 451 461 462 469 548 549 555 563 573 687 694 701 703 710 824 830 832 842 843 981 987 989 997 1000 1100 1102 1108 1114 1126 1241 1249 1250 1251 1257 1388 1389 1391 1394 1402 1592 1595 1596 1597 1610 1680

Galileo
34 38 40 41 45 74 75 79 85 86 125 126 128 131 135 184 190 191 195 203 254 263 269 271 272 322 326 330 334 335 371 375 379 384 386 481 486 492 494 499 578 582 587 588 596 714 716 752 754 758 845 868 894 896 904 1002 1006 1014 1019 1022 1137 1138 1140 1153 1156 1259 1261 1272 1279 1280 1403 1444 1450 1492 1497 1619 1625 1628 1646 1647 1700

Newton
47 48 49 53 56 88 93 94 95 103 136 138 141 148 151 217 222 223 224 228 274 279 280 281 287 337 340 341 342 343 388 395 399 401 404 503 515 518 521 522 604 612 614 616 618 766 768 801 803 807 930 931 933 939 945 1023 1024 1027 1033 1038 1167 1180 1188 1189 1208 1286 1287 1289 1305 1324 1506 1507 1510 1511 1517 1648 1653 1665 1671 1675 1708
What is the method to the madness of that system?

Logan Byers 03-04-2005 08:49
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
It appears to be groups of five starting with 1...

Ryan Dognaux 03-04-2005 12:42
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit Gerhart
It would be nice to have a system that would completely "mix up" the teams into the divisions so, for example, we'd have the possibility of being in the same division with Cyber Blue.
Yeah, I'm getting tired of seeing those 229 clowns next to us :]

Lil' Lavery 03-04-2005 18:08
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephM
Grundy isn't registered anymore? Whaa....
388 is still going, they were just listed in a different division now. Hopefully even if they are in a different division 116 and 388 will go bowling again cus we couldnt at VCU this year (116 didnt goto VCU).

Tytus Gerrish 03-04-2005 18:26
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
179 and 180 in the same Division. IMPOSSIBLE!!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon K.
If FIRST was to go back to the 02 way of divisioning then they would look something like this.

Archimedes
1 7 11 16 20 57 60 63 65 66 107 108 111 114 116155 158 159 168 173 229 230 231 233 234 288 292 294 296 301 345 346 350 353 357 415 433 435 440 444 527 529 537 538 546 638 639 650 662 677 810 811 812 816 818 957 967 972 977 980 1071 1072 1083 1089 1094 1211 1216 1218 1219 1230 1345 1350 1367 1369 1370 1527 1546 1574 1577 1590 1676

Curie
21 22 25 27 33 67 68 69 71 73 118 120 121 122 123 175 176 178 179 180 236 237 245 247 250 302 304 308 314 316 358 359 362 364 365 447 451 461 462 469 548 549 555 563 573 687 694 701 703 710 824 830 832 842 843 981 987 989 997 1000 1100 1102 1108 1114 1126 1241 1249 1250 1251 1257 1388 1389 1391 1394 1402 1592 1595 1596 1597 1610 1680

Galileo
34 38 40 41 45 74 75 79 85 86 125 126 128 131 135 184 190 191 195 203 254 263 269 271 272 322 326 330 334 335 371 375 379 384 386 481 486 492 494 499 578 582 587 588 596 714 716 752 754 758 845 868 894 896 904 1002 1006 1014 1019 1022 1137 1138 1140 1153 1156 1259 1261 1272 1279 1280 1403 1444 1450 1492 1497 1619 1625 1628 1646 1647 1700

Newton
47 48 49 53 56 88 93 94 95 103 136 138 141 148 151 217 222 223 224 228 274 279 280 281 287 337 340 341 342 343 388 395 399 401 404 503 515 518 521 522 604 612 614 616 618 766 768 801 803 807 930 931 933 939 945 1023 1024 1027 1033 1038 1167 1180 1188 1189 1208 1286 1287 1289 1305 1324 1506 1507 1510 1511 1517 1648 1653 1665 1671 1675 1708

Kit Gerhart 03-04-2005 18:39
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish
179 and 180 in the same Division. IMPOSSIBLE!!!
That was a system they apparently used in '02 (though I don't remember it) where they put teams in "blocks" of five into a division. With the system used recently, 179 and 180 would not be in the same division.

santosh 03-04-2005 20:38
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Yeah. I am hoping that the nationals do stay in Atlanta. Atlanta is extremely conveniant. Easy transportation everywhere. Good places everywhere to eat. Everything is just so close to each other. And just think about it drivers, you are standing in the place Michael Vick once stood at some point in time or at a spot.

I think I might just be a little biased towards it because most of my team ives about 20 miles away from the Georgia Dome. This is about an hour 15 min long drive during rush hour.

Kit Gerhart 03-04-2005 20:41
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by santosh
Yeah. I am hoping that the nationals do stay in Atlanta. Atlanta is extremely conveniant. Easy transportation everywhere. Good places everywhere to eat. Everything is just so close to each other. And just think about it drivers, you are standing in the place Michael Vick once stood at some point in time or at a spot.
Who is (was) Michael Vick?

Hunter 03-04-2005 20:44
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit Gerhart
Who is (was) Michael Vick?
He is the Atlanta Falcons Quarterback

scott 03-04-2005 22:30
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
yeah, basically its Mike Vick and his Falcons. . . . .not the Atlanta Falcons,lol.

Tom Bottiglieri 04-04-2005 09:49
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by santosh
And just think about it drivers, you are standing in the place Michael Vick once stood at some point in time or at a spot.
Or just maybe Michael Vick should be thinking, I am in the same place Dean Kamen, Woodie Flowers, Andy Baker, and Bill Beatty all stood at the same time.

Jay Trzaskos 04-04-2005 14:48
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Quote:
It appears to be groups of five starting with 1...
Teras, three sided alliances, three rows of three goals, etc. Anybody else think that FIRST might go and put us in by groups of 3? I'll post a list of what this might look like when i get time.

JT
229

Koko Ed 04-04-2005 15:53
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
Now if FIRST really wanted to get crazy they could use a randomizer to set the divisions but there is too much risk of having too many powerhouses in one division or too many roookies and such. I think the 1,2,3,4 system makes thing easy on them.

Dancin103 04-04-2005 18:21
Re: 2005 Championship Divisions!?
 
I dont think this can be because there are teams going that are not on this list!hmmmm.......


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